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Declaring victory and moving on?
Posted by: Dr. Ricky Rood, 06:34 AM GMT del 14 Febbraio 2011 +2
Declaring victory and moving on?

In 2006 I started teaching climate change to all comers. It was my first year at Michigan, and I was approached by a set of three students to start a course on climate change. None of these students were physical scientists. It is a fact of universities that professors often start courses so that the professor can learn a subject. I was recruited to Michigan to help develop a focus on climate and climate change, but I was not really a climate scientist. I entered this course with a lot to learn. With the help of the students I structured a course that looked at the intersection of climate change with economics, policy, and business (class link). I think I had 12 guest lecturers the first year.

During the first couple of years there were some truths that became self evident. One of first of those truths was that in the popular discourse of 2006, the arguments around the U.S. not ratifying the Kyoto Protocol was a red herring. Namely, there was this idea that if the U.S. had signed the Kyoto Protocol, then we would have dealt with the climate change problem. It was evident by 2006 that this was not the case; the Kyoto Protocol could not effectively address climate change. In 2006 the students in the class talked about the symbolic meaning of the U.S. as a member of the global community, by 2007 the students arrived at the conclusion that the protocol was, practically, irrelevant.

Several other self-evident truths emerged. People often talk about wanting to look at the evidence themselves and come to their own conclusions. That’s not an easy thing to do in your spare time, and, for climate change, I had the benefit of it being my job. After going through reports and papers and thinking about how to communicate climate-change science to all comers, you realize this massive body of knowledge supports the fact that the surface of the Earth is warming. The evidence is what I called, at the time, coherent and convergent. (In fact, my third blog, a better blog) The correlated information from many measures of the Earth’s climate, the measurements of the feedbacks that follow from the warming, and the stunning amount of evidence from ecosystems form a body of work that, using the word of IPCC 2007, is “unequivocal.”

When we place ourselves in the middle of the climate and its importance to us, the responses to surface warming appear complex. It is easy to conclude that the average temperature of the surface of the Earth will increase, ice will melt, sea level will rise, and the weather will change. We can also say that the changes will be larger in some regions than the other, and that the changes will be disruptive. It is we, the people, that make this more than an academic problem.

More study, more information, and a few outstanding student projects and other truths emerge. One is that there really are not reliable, safe ways to remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere(Reliability of the Forest). Related to this, we conclude that a carbon market cannot be an effective policy vehicle. There are no choices, and markets need choices. There needs to be, at a marginal cost, choices of reduced-carbon energy sources and choices of reliable, safe ways to remove carbon from the atmosphere. All we really have working for us right now is energy efficiency, and we cast efficiency more as a moral value than a monetary value. If we want to remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere with a market, then we are going to have to use technology and biotechnology to develop those market choices. Without market choices, we are not going to reduce our emissions, because we are not going to give up the standard of living that comes from the use of energy.

Today, right now, our ability to mitigate climate change by reduction of emissions is severely limited. We can design strategies that could make a difference; people teaching classes like mine anchor themselves in Pacala and Socolow, who describe a portfolio of technologically feasible solution paths to reduce emissions. But are we going to build a meaningful number of nuclear power plants in the next 10 years? Most large solar and wind projects are challenged for a variety of environmental consequences – ending or delaying them. Each year of delay is a few more parts per million (ppm) of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. We have no algorithm for trading off a large area of desert for invisible tons of carbon dioxide. Our environmental consciousness has no way to reduce the emission of carbon dioxide except by appealing to efficiency. And with that appeal, to argue that we need no new energy infrastructure, or we can personalize our energy generation. How can we reconcile this with the need for an energy-based economy to grow 2-3% every year to make enough jobs for a growing population? How do we put invisible carbon dioxide emissions in balance with perceived unemployment?

No consensus-based international policy is going to emerge in the next decade that will lead to near-term reduction of carbon dioxide emissions. My takeaway message from Copenhagen 2009 was that if there had ever been a European, Japanese, and U.S. opportunity to set the standard for carbon dioxide reduction it was lost. Emerging economies like China, Brazil, India, and South Africa have lots of emissions and plans to grow. They are spending a lot of money on the development of alternative energy; they are spending a lot of money on the development and use of fossil fuels. They spend enough on alternative energy to claim an environmental high ground, and to develop new technologies, new industries, and new standards. We use enough fossil fuels that even with these new sources of energy, carbon dioxide emissions increase at or above historic rates. Our only measure of success is to point to how high the emissions would be without these new developments.

We have to plan for an Earth with a lot of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. The synthesis provided by the recent National Research Council document, Climate Stabilization Targets: Emissions, Concentrations, and Impacts over Decades to Millennia put the stamp of authority and certification on the fact that once fossil-fuel carbon dioxide is placed in the Earth’s atmosphere, it stays there for a very long time. If we held our accumulated carbon dioxide to a trillion tons, then the carbon dioxide would stabilize at about 440 parts per million. That would be a stunning accomplishment. Far more likely, we will emit two or three trillion tons of carbon dioxide, and we will be living with values at double or more compared with pre-industrial levels; we are looking at 600 parts per million.

What is my intent? If you look at the issues raised above, many of them are where we have maintained and will maintain ongoing public arguments. These arguments attract attention, take our time, and take our minds. We align behind ideas like cap and trade and Kyoto, but by the time they might, maybe, possibly be made politically viable, they do little for addressing climate change. They take on the spirit that if we support them, then they are a symbolic first step. We align behind ideas of alternative energy and advocating efficiency, but the implementation of these ideas is met with opposition and challenges. Climate change is from the invisible gas, and the consequences are in the future; we relegate it to an issue of the common good. The urgency to address climate change is lost again and again; it is easily derailed by convenient political arguments and philosophical beliefs. The short-term always trumps the long-term. Our continued use of fossil fuels confirms that we want our energy; our resistance to a comprehensive energy policy relegates attention to climate change as secondary.

The Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society has a special issue on world at four degrees warmer. In the Introduction by Mark New and colleagues many of the ideas addressed above are addressed more elegantly and more completely - new ideas emerge. The rate of warming matters a lot. The projected rate of population growth and our current warming trajectory work to maximize stress at the same time. With warming approaching four degrees, stress on resources and human systems related to climate change become comparable to those from population stress.

The acceptance that, with even our best efforts, we are moving to a world that is much warmer removes the incapacitating anxiety of argument. It gets us past the idea that we are going to avoid dangerous warming. We can get to work. I believe that the climate change projections provide us opportunity. I want my students to learn to exploit these opportunities. I believe that trying to exploit these opportunities will make the problem real to many more people, and that their talking about their opportunities, their solutions, will beget more of the same. They will gain, ultimately, advantage.

It is disingenuous to continue to teach my course in the same way. I will talk about the ways we can reduce emissions. I can talk about the need to keep our average warming below two degrees centigrade, our convenient definition of “dangerous climate change.” I can and will talk about policy options, but the truth is, our population and economic imperatives in combination with our lack of real alternatives and policy opportunity leave us with very little wiggle room. Describing that warm world and developing adaptation strategies will make the climate change problem more concrete. It will make the costs far more real. It will bring the problem home to cities, communities, and people. It will motivate technology, solutions.

Here, I advocate we do something different, because what we are doing is not working. I heard arguments for more than a decade that talking about adaptation would keep us from addressing mitigation. Now if we talk about geo-engineering we will fall into the false security that we can manage the climate. It is not rational that by avoiding these subjects that we will somehow change our energy system and reduce our emissions. It is not rational that our denying and ignoring the possibilities, while others take advantage of the information, somehow contributes to a productive dialogue to development of abstract policy solutions to seemingly distant problems. I assert that by addressing these real problems of adaptation, we will identify risk in a meaningful way, and we will make real the need for mitigation.

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Figure 1. Cover of Four degrees and beyond: the potential for a global temperature increase of four degrees and its implications
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251. cyclonebuster 06:59 PM GMT del 23 Febbraio 2011    
Quoting McBill:


40,000kg of mercury released into the environment in 2008 alone - I'm guessing mostly through coal fired power plant emissions. If my math is correct, that would be equivalent to 10 billion compact fluorescent lamps (4mg/CFL).



How good is it to breath mercury vapor?
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252. cyclonebuster 07:03 PM GMT del 23 Febbraio 2011    
MERCURY HEALTH HAZARD INFORMATION

* Routes of Exposure

Exposure to mercury vapor can occur through inhalation, and eye or skin contact.

* Summary of toxicology

1. Effects on Animals: Mercury vapor can damage the kidneys, liver, brain, heart, lungs and colon in experimental animals. It is also mutagenic and can affect the immune system. Rabbits exposed for a single 4 hour period to mercury vapor at a concentration of 28.8 mg/m(3) developed severe damage to the kidneys, liver, brain, heart, lungs, and colon [Clayton and Clayton 1981]. Rabbits exposed to 0.86 mg/m(3) for 6 weeks had significant brain and kidney damage, which resolved on cessation of exposure. Exposure to 6 mg/m(3) mercury vapor caused severe damage to the kidney, heart, lung, and brain of rabbits; however, dogs exposed to 0.1 mg/m(3) for 83 weeks had no microscopic indication of tissue damage [Clayton and Clayton 1981]. Mercury may injure the kidneys through an autoimmune mechanism [ACGIH 1991]. Mercury was mutagenic in eukaryotic cells [ACGIH 1991].
2. Effects on Humans: Mercury vapor can cause effects in the central and peripheral nervous systems, lungs, kidneys, skin and eyes in humans. It is also mutagenic and affects the immune system [Hathaway et al. 1991; Clayton and Clayton 1981; Rom 1992]. Acute exposure to high concentrations of mercury vapor causes severe respiratory damage, while chronic exposure to lower levels is primarily associated with central nervous system damage [Hathaway et al. 1991]. Chronic exposure to mercury is also associated with behavioral changes and alterations in peripheral nervous system [ACGIH 1991]. Pulmonary effects of mercury vapor inhalation include diffuse interstitial pneumonitis with profuse fibrinous exudation [Gosselin 1984]. Glomerular dysfunction and proteinuria have been observed mercury exposed workers [ACGIH 1991]. Chronic mercury exposure can cause discoloration of the cornea and lens, eyelid tremor and, rarely, disturbances of vision and extraocular muscles [Grant 1986]. Delayed hypersensitivity reactions have been reported in individuals exposed to mercury vapor [Clayton and Clayton 1981]. Mercury vapor is reported to be mutagenic in humans, causing aneuploidy in lymphocytes of exposed workers [Hathaway et al. 1991].

* Signs and symptoms of exposure

1. Acute exposure: Acute inhalation of mercury vapor may result in toxicity similar to metal fume fever including chills, nausea, general malaise, tightness in the chest, chest pains, dyspnea, cough, stomatitis, gingivitis, salivation, and diarrhea [ACGIH 1991; Hathaway et al. 1991].
2. Chronic exposure: Chronic exposure to mercury may result in weakness, fatigue, anorexia, weight loss, and disturbance of gastrointestinal function. A tremor may develop beginning with the fingers, eyelids, and lips which may progress to generalized trembling of the entire body and violent chronic spasms of the extremities. Parallel with development of the tremors, behavioral and personality changes may develop including increased excitability, memory loss, insomnia, and depression. The skin may exhibit abnormal blushing, dermographia, excessive sweating and irregular macular rashes. Severe salivation and gingivitis is also characteristic of chronic toxicity [Hathaway et al. 1991; Gosselin 1984]. Another manifestation of chronic mercury exposure is characterized by apathy, anorexia, flush, fever, a nephrotic syndrome with albuminuria and generalized edema, diaphoresis, photophobia, insomnia and a pruritic and sometimes painful scaling or peeling of the skin of the hands and feet with bullous lesions [Gosselin 1984].

EMERGENCY MEDICAL PROCEDURES

* Emergency medical procedures: [NIOSH to supply]

Rescue: Remove an incapacitated worker from further exposure and implement appropriate emergency procedures (e.g., those listed on the Material Safety Data Sheet required by OSHA's Hazard Communication Standard [29 CFR 1910.1200]). All workers should be familiar with emergency procedures, the location and proper use of emergency equipment, and methods of protecting themselves during rescue operations.


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254. HaloReachFan 11:09 PM GMT del 23 Febbraio 2011    
What's wrong with nuclear power?
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255. cyclonebuster 11:56 PM GMT del 23 Febbraio 2011    
Quoting HaloReachFan:
What's wrong with nuclear power?


Problem with Nuclear power is they still give a lot of heat to the atmosphere and ocean. Since GHGs are trapping that heat for the next few thousands years be it from nuclear or fossil fuels the Earth can't radiate that heat to space efficiently anymore like before the industrial revolution. The blanket has become to thick! Tunnels are the way out of this quagmire we have placed ourselves into.
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256. iceagecoming 03:07 AM GMT del 24 Febbraio 2011    
Quoting cyclonebuster:


Problem with Nuclear power is they still give a lot of heat to the atmosphere and ocean. Since GHGs are trapping that heat for the next few thousands years be it from nuclear or fossil fuels the Earth can't radiate that heat to space efficiently anymore like before the industrial revolution. The blanket has become to thick! Tunnels are the way out of this quagmire we have placed ourselves into.


Yep, the end game is drive civilization back into the
stone age, or better, off the planet entirely, then it
can return to it's natural pristine chaos.
Sierra Club, Eco-terrorists, Tree sitters, etc,,,,




Barack Obama Nuclear Power


Barack Obama Nuclear Power , Chernobyl , Nuclear Plants , Nuclear Power , Obama Nuclear Weapons , Three Mile Island , Denver News


Perhaps it took the tough Eastern blizzards to convince President Obama to support more nuclear power plants, but many people remain uneasy with the concept. His decision to go nuclear may have been influenced by the heaviest snowfalls in the Washington DC area in 100 years. Several feet of snow remain on the ground, and the mounds of plowed snow are shoulder high. Against this backdrop, President Obama promised to enable $8.3 billion in federal loan guarantees for two nuclear reactors in Georgia. If they are built, they would be the first new ones constructed in the United States in over thirty years. Of course, some nuclear weapons production is believed to continue, but construction for nuclear power has waned.

There remains public concern over safety and disposal of the nuclear waste, which could remain a danger for the indefinite future. At this time, the waste products are stored near the existing reactors. Many people remember the tragic accidents in Three Mile Island, Pennsylvania and Chernobyl Russia. There may have been others in the world which were not reported.

The plants are estimated to cost at least $14 billion dollars, so more money will have to be raised from government, private, and foreign sources. If the figures can be believed, experts claim the Georgia plants can cut carbon pollutions by 16 million tons each year, compared to coal. President Obama says that is like taking 3.5 million cars off the road. The plants are supposed to provide electricity to 1.4 million people. Again, it is impossible to determine the accuracy of these estimates.

President Obama did not take questions after making his announcement. Later, press secretary Robert Gibbs was pelted with questions about the issues of safety and nuclear waste disposal. He assured us the plants will be safe and experts continue to study the waste issue. That is a standard Washington answer.

President Obama hopes the compromise on nuclear power will help him gain Congressional passage of his climate change proposals. He insists the nuclear plants will create thousands of new jobs, curb pollution, and reduce some use of oil. He argued, "if we fail to invest in technologies of tomorrow, we are going to import those technologies instead of exporting them... We will fall behind... jobs will be produced overseas instead of here."

He may be right, and his proposal may gain more support among Republicans, as well as Democrats. But nuclear development remains an emotional and controversial issue. These proposals come at a time many countries are criticizing Iran and North Korea for nuclear enrichment programs. They are supposed to be meant for nuclear power, but they may also convert the programs to military use, if they are not halted.

So the nuclear debate has now intensified. In addition to blowing and throwing snow in these blizzard times, a lot of atoms and billions of dollars are now added to the mix.

Link

Nuclear development remains an emotional and controversial issue. Obama's proposals come at a time many countries are criticizing Iran and North Korea for nuclear enrichment programs.

Oh No, Say it ain't So, BHO
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258. cyclonebuster 04:28 AM GMT del 24 Febbraio 2011    
Quoting MichaelSTL:


Oh, right...



I wonder how long it will be until people (you aren't the only one; I believe that bell32 or something suggested the same) realize that global warming has absolutely NOTHING to do with the actual heat produced by energy consumption! It is all due to greenhouse gasses*!

*A GHG forcing of 3 watts per square meter is equivalent to 1,530 TW - over ONE HUNDRED times the heat produced by human activity! So get over it!


Heat is heat doesn't matter where it comes from it vaporizes more water and adds more water vapor to the GHG blanket......... You get over it!
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263. cyclonebuster 07:43 AM GMT del 24 Febbraio 2011    
Quoting MichaelSTL:


Right. So if GHGs have caused 0.8 degrees of warming, then how much warming was caused by waste heat? 0.8 x 1/100? Which is 0.008? Last I saw, global anomalies were reported to 0.01°C, so that is less than the resolution!


At this stage we are in we can't afford any!
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267. Patrap 01:34 PM GMT del 24 Febbraio 2011    
Feel free to expound your superior Factoids on the Cooling here,,but in a Science format,,not a FAUX one.

We're all ears.

Joe B. tried and well,,dat didnt go so well for his career.



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269. Patrap 01:41 PM GMT del 24 Febbraio 2011    
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271. Patrap 02:12 PM GMT del 24 Febbraio 2011    
Me gets a lotta weirdo's,,u should see my inbox here.

But some need to google a few things before they ramble incoherently about Nam and other stuff.

I was 14 when it ended.

"extra giggle"
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273. Patrap 02:24 PM GMT del 24 Febbraio 2011    
No problemo,,it iz what it iz usually.

Discovery Launch today so we can all rally for the Crew and wish them well over he Hill.

NASA - KSC Video Feeds


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275. Patrap 02:28 PM GMT del 24 Febbraio 2011    
Roger dat,

I'll be on 212

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276. Neapolitan 10:21 PM GMT del 24 Febbraio 2011    
This just in:

Report clears U.S. scientists in "climategate"

An independent review of thousands of emails stolen from climate researchers has found that scientists at the National Atmospheric and Oceanic Administration did not manipulate data or otherwise engage in wrongdoing.

The report, issued by the Inspector General of the Department of Commerce, is at least the fifth report by various bodies in the United States and the United Kingdom to clear researchers at the heart of the so-called "Climategate" incident that galvanized vocal skeptics of the science of global warming.

The Inspector General's report found that NOAA researchers did not manipulate data, as has been widely claimed by climate change skeptics. The researchers involved also properly adhered to the agency's data review policies, the report concluded.

Article...

Full OIG report (PDF)

(Of course, this won't matter a bit to those convinced by Glenn Beck or Anthony Watts that there was trickery and deception involved. To paraphrase an old saying, you can lead horses to water, but you can't make them drink it when they'd rather quench their thirst with "Fair and Balanced" Kool-Aid.)
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277. Obamabinladen 10:45 PM GMT del 24 Febbraio 2011    
Quoting cat5hurricane:

Are you referring to me, Obamabinladen?

NO absolutly Not.
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284. cyclonebuster 01:37 AM GMT del 25 Febbraio 2011    
Quoting WeatherWx:


Lies!!! 100% of the warming due to greenhouse gases?
Even most of the AGW crowd here doesn't believe GW is due to 100% greenhouse gases!(I think I heard a percentage not too far back by someone here that man is causing at least 60% of the warming but not ALL of it!


Most but not all as I pointed out!
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