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| Posted by: Dr. Ricky Rood, 10:57 PM GMT del 09 Dicembre 2010 | +4 |


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i think that both you and Michael demonstrate conclusive proof that liberals lack a sense of humor. His posts were funny and on a cold icy day out here in the midwest it's a nice break from the monotony of short days and scraping frost, ice and snow off the windshield.
This guy is sick suggesting us to eat aborted fetuses! You need jail time!
I was trying to decide whether or not to click on his link when I read your post, Cyclone. Now that was really funny. I knew you could do it if you tried.
"How many people has global warming killed?"
Jack Wagon makes it sound like it is zero. Very uninformed writer trying to spread untruths about global warming. Where do they find such ignorant people to write these articles?
12.15.10
When surface winds are strong, they stir the Southern Ocean and lift the warm water (red) onto the continental shelf where the additional heat contributes to melt of the ice shelf.
When surface winds are strong, they stir the Southern Ocean and lift the warm water (red) onto the continental shelf where the additional heat contributes to melt of the ice shelf. Credit: Frank Ippolito Scientists have previously shown that West Antarctica is losing ice, but how that ice is lost remained unclear. Now, using data from Earth observing satellites and airborne science missions, scientists are closing in on ice loss culprits above and below the ice.
The findings, presented Dec. 15 at the fall meeting of the American Geophysical Union (AGU) in San Francisco, Calif., are expected to improve predictions of sea level rise.
Time Not Healing Glacial Wounds
A new analysis by Ted Scambos, a glaciologist at the National Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder Colo., and colleagues found that more than a decade after two major Antarctic ice shelves collapsed, glaciers once buttressed by the shelves continue to lose ice.
Changes are most evident in the West Antarctic Ice Sheet and along the Antarctic Peninsula. A spine of mountains forces passing winds to give up their moisture as snow, feeding glaciers that in turn feed the ice shelves that jut out into the Southern Ocean. More than a decade ago, dramatic changes started affecting a series of ice shelves, collectively called Larsen, along the Peninsula's northeast coast. In 1995, Larsen A was the first to collapse followed by a larger loss of Larsen B in 2002. Today, a small piece of the Larsen B and the entirety of the vast Larsen C hang on.
Investigating how the glaciers have responded to the loss of these ice shelf "dams," Scambos and colleagues tracked elevation information using data from satellites such as NASA's Ice, Cloud and land Elevation Satellite (ICESat) and previous airborne missions. They show that between 2001 and 2006, glaciers feeding Larsen A and Larsen B lost 12 gigatons of ice loss per year, or 30 percent of all ice lost throughout the Peninsula.
Moreover, the continued draw down of glaciers, such as Drygalski Glacier, fifteen years after the loss of Larsen A, have set precedent for what to expect elsewhere. Losses by glaciers that fed the Larsen B, such as Crane Glacier, are likely to continue.
Scambos and a team of colleagues have now placed instruments on glaciers just south of the area where the shelves disintegrated, anticipating that further warming will lead to further glacier speed-ups. The instruments and new aircraft overflights will provide further insight into shelf break-up and the onset of ice acceleration.
When surface winds are strong, they stir the Southern Ocean and lift the warm water (red) onto the continental shelf where the additional heat contributes to melt of the ice shelf. Credit: Frank Ippolito
Wind Matters
Further south is West Antarctica's Pine Island Glacier, another site of major ice loss presently draining more than 19 cubic miles of ice per year from the West Antarctic Ice Sheet. It continues to deteriorate rapidly and scientists want to know why.
By combining satellite and airborne data, Bob Bindschadler, a glaciologist with the Goddard Earth Sciences and Technology Center at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md., has successfully gained more insight into interactions between the atmosphere, ocean and ice even though the data cant reveal these connections directly.
Bindschadler and colleagues looked at images from the Landsat satellite and spotted a series of large surface undulations on the ice shelf. Next they matched the undulations with the timing of warm water pulses in the waters adjacent to the ice shelf. When surface winds are strong, they stir the Southern Ocean and lift the warm water onto the continental shelf where the additional heat contributes to melt.
Airborne data showed the ice shelf was up to 150 meters (492 feet) thinner when the warmer water was present, allowing Bindschadler's team to establish a direct link between the rate of ice shelf melting and atmospheric wind speed. When the team accounted for the heat coming in and the ice lost, they concluded that only 22 percent of the heat is used in melting. Whether the remaining heat might melt additional ice is unknown, but it is clear that the atmospheric circulation has a strong role on the future of the ice shelf and the fate of the ice sheet inland. Stronger winds would lead to an acceleration of ice loss; weaker winds would have a stabilizing effect.
"In short, ice shelves are affected by what winds are doing," Bindschadler said. "As Antarctic Circumpolar winds continue to increase, ice shelves are at increasing risk."
West Antarctica is seeing dramatic ice loss particularly the Antarctic Peninsula and Pine Island regions. Ice loss culprits include the loss off buttressing ice shelves, wind, and a sub-shelf channel that allows warm water to intrude below the ice. Credit: NASA/NSIDC
Underwater Channel Promoting Melt?
A gravity instrument, flown during NASA's Operation IceBridge campaign in 2009, revealed the presence of a sinuous channel (blue) below West Antarctica's Pine Island ice shelf. The channel allows warm ocean water to reach the grounding line, leading to melting of the ice shelf from below. Credit NASA
Taking a closer look at Antarctica's Pine Island Glacier is Michael Studinger, a glaciologist with the Goddard Earth Sciences and Technology Center at NASA Goddard.
Studinger is project scientist for NASA's Operation IceBridge mission -- an airborne science campaign that makes annual surveys of polar snow and ice -- that is helping researchers understand changes to Pine Island and other critical regions along West Antarctica and the Peninsula.
After analyzing data from the mission's first Antarctic deployment in 2009, the team revealed for the first time a curious feature below the Pine Island shelf: a sinuous channel that allows warm ocean water to reach the grounding line, leading to melting of the ice shelf from below.
More information will become available throughout Operation IceBridge, which sustains watch over Earth's poles until the launch of ICESat-2, scheduled for January 2016. In November 2010, teams concluded the second Antarctic campaign during which they flew over sea ice and key glaciers including a return mission over Pine Island Glacier. These data will be incorporated into the tools scientists use to refine estimates of future sea level rise.
Actually, Cyclone, the question should be easy to answer. However, it's not really necessary because the author is trying to make a point that all of us surely know.Warming is not nearly as dangerous as cold. Far more people have died, gone bankrupt or just become really miserable because of extreme cold. We all know that. Yet, where is all the money to deal with cold?
I know what you're thinking. What's the point? The cold is just part of mother nature, right? You'd be right about that.
No one? I"m wondering why most of the human race chooses to live in warmer climates. Do you wonder why the Eskimos are having so much trouble keeping all those immigrants from over running their territory? Hell, I do.
Your remarks are so foolish. How many humans die each year from complications from cold related illnesses? How many old people pass during the coldest months of the year?
How many die worldwide from accidents related to snow storms, heart attacks shoveling snow?.. the list goes on. Truth is only a fool blinded by the global warming religion could actually believe our lives are imperiled by a warmer world.
God help us if Columbus Ohio gets as warm as Atlanta Georgia over the next couple of hundred years.
Nothing above suggests that we should do nothing about man kinds influence on nature, but get real about the issue and the dangers.
Check this out you might like this.
Once again the Goldilocks zone is where we should be not to hot or to cold.
I was looking at your graph and thinking about two things. The first is that no one has sad to you that it looks phony. Like whose graph...?
But the second thing is more interesting. There is nothing about the graph that doesn't indicate that the sun is the major factor. Let me explain.
I used to be in the restaurant business and at one restaurant that we built the HVAC engineers screwed up. On hot days the A/c was adequate to handle the equipment load and the people load until we reached a certain level of business at which time the heat began to build up and temperatures rose from 72 to 85.
Now here's what's interesting. The tonage put in initially was about 35 tons. Now you'd think they would need to add like another ten to handle the load, but they only needed to add like 2 or 3 tons, just enough to stop the build up of heat from getting out of control and surging to 85.
I think the Earth works the same way because, you know, the green house effect.
So when I see your graph I think that maybe what's missing is the levels that preceded the past 30 years because if there was just a little bump in sun heat during the last 30 years the build up, like my restaurant, might be much more significant than just that little bit of extra radiation. Whatdya think?
Michael, you missed drownings and shark attacks which are, no doubt, caused by the heat causing people to jump in the ocean. Yeah, thanks for that info, you really got me convinced. Those heart attacks and auto accidents on the ice and viruses don't really count.
I hope those heat strokes include all those young football players and marathoners who die every year from heat stroke. That never happened 40 years ago when I was young.
Great NOAA graph Michael. It really shows how bad the heat is. I have heard of "Heat Stroke" but have you ever heard of "Cold Stroke"? LOL!
Anyways what do the deniers say about that graph?
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