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Alma dies without causing a major disaster; tornadoes rip Midwest
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 03:03 PM GMT del 30 Maggio 2008 +1
Tropical Storm Alma has dissipated over the high mountains of Honduras, and thankfully did not dump enough rain to cause a major flooding disaster in Central America. At 3pm EDT yesterday, Alma became the first tropical storm since records began in 1949 to make landfall on the Pacific coast of Central America. All previous Eastern Pacific storms have hit Mexico, which is considered part of North America. Alma came ashore in Nicaragua, near the Honduras border, as a tropical storm with 65 mph winds. So far, one person has been killed in Nicaragua, due to a fallen power cable. However, Alma has not dumped enough rain to cause widespread flooding--rainfall amounts in Nicaragua the past two day have been 3-8 inches. Costa Rica has had rains of similar magnitude, which have caused isolated mudslides that have blocked roads. Additional rain from Alma's remnants should total less than two inches in Costa Rica and four inches in Nicaragua. However, Honduras, El Salvador, Belize, Guatemala, and Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula are likely to get 4-8 inches of rain over the next two days from this system, which could cause significant flooding and mud slides.


Figure 1. Current satellite image of Alma's remnants.

There is a large area of disturbed weather that has developed in the Western Caribbean between Jamaica and the Yucatan Peninsula in the past few hours, in association with a trough of low pressure extending from the center of Alma. This morning's 7:37am EDT QuikSCAT pass showed winds of up to 50 knots (58 mph) in this region, but no hint of a circulation or wind shift. It is possible that this disturbed area could start to develop on its own later today, as a westward-moving tropical wave currently near Jamaica interacts with it. This area should expand and spread into Honduras, Belize, and Mexico's Yucatan by Saturday. However, I'm not expecting a major flooding disaster with heavy loss of life anywhere in Central America from Alma's remnants. The GFS model is predicting that moisture from Alma will eventually work its way north and bring heavy rains to Florida by June 7. No models are predicting a tropical storm in the Atlantic during the coming week.


Figure 2. Doppler radar winds from the Kearney, Nebraska tornadoes of May 29, 2008. Note that a twin set of vorticies appears in this image, denoting that two adjacent tornadoes may have hit.

Tornadoes rip the Midwest again Thursday; tornadoes expected today in Illinois, Indiana, and Missouri
Numerous strong tornadoes raked the Midwest last night, adding to the extensive damage already wreaked by one of the worst months of tornado damage in U.S. history. Last night's most significant destruction occurred in Jewell, Kansas, and Kearney, Nebraska. In Jewell, numerous businesses were destroyed and the town water tower toppled. In Kearney, multiple twisters hit, and a 90-car train was knocked off of its tracks. Wunderblogger Mike Theiss caught up to the Kearney tornado, and describes his experience in his blog today. All told, there were 55 tornado reports Thursday, but no deaths or injuries.

The Storm Prediction Center is calling for a "Moderate" risk of severe weather across Illinois, Indiana, and Missouri this afternoon---one level below their "High" risk level that was posted yesterday. Expect another significant tornado outbreak today. The Weather Underground Severe Weather page and Tornado page are good places to go to follow the severe weather. Also, tune in to the chase accounts and awesome storm photos from Wunderblogger Mike Theiss. Mike is in Tornado Alley this week, performing his annual chase efforts.

Jeff Masters
TIV 1 under thunderstorm (MikeTheiss)
Photo of the original TIV (Tornado Intercept Vehicle) driving out from underneath thunderstorm. Photo copyright Mike Theiss
TIV 1 under thunderstorm
Osbourne Kansas Tornado (MikeTheiss)
Blurry photo of the Osbourne Kansas tornado taken while driving. Photo copyright Mike Theiss
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1201. MasterForecaster 01:25 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
1191. TampaSpin 1:22 PM GMT on May 31, 2008
The local Mets ususally report what has been reported.....they report alot of stuff thats hours old.


Sad but true I guess, Tampa.
1202. Tazmanian 01:27 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
Gamma your welcome
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1204. extreme236 01:27 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
The NGPS track would keep it around longer.
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1205. seflagamma 01:27 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
extreme, thanks, I didn't know that!
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1206. Tazmanian 01:28 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
wind shear is vary low right now where 90L is going they may say it could be olny a 40 mph TS wish could be a 75 mph hurricane with the low wind shear right now
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1207. XoendHoroeken 01:28 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
The Hurricane Expo at MOSI starts today at 10. This is a great time to speak to mets and you get a lot of free stuff. I suggest if you live in Tampa to go.
1208. seflagamma 01:29 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
but GSM, they should have one of us there to make sure they have fresh information at all times before they go on the air and look like fools.
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1209. IKE 01:29 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
Long-term discussion from New Orleans....

"Long term...
the GFS and European model (ecmwf) still show a rather strong shortwave trough
moving across The Rockies Wednesday into Wednesday night before
moving east to northeast across the plains Thursday into Thursday
night. Deep tropical moisture in enhanced southeast flow is still
forecast to surge out of the Caribbean Sea into the Gulf of
Mexico...but the deeper moisture is delayed in its arrival to the
north central Gulf Coast...now not reaching our area until next
Saturday night or Sunday. Have cut back on some of the rain
chances in the day 7 to 8 periods."
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1210. seflagamma 01:30 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
gotta go fora while.. bb when I can.

have fun.
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1211. extreme236 01:30 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
No problem Gamma :-)

Taz-Proximity to land should keep it from becoming a hurricane...it also wouldn't have much time as once it emerges from the BoC it would have to re-organize before it could even become a TS.
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1212. IKE 01:31 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
1203. GulfScotsman 8:27 AM CDT on May 31, 2008
1199. IKE 8:25 AM CDT on May 31, 2008
1196....their just not paying close enough attention to what's actually happening...not doing their job, really.


i think that is a bit harsh. these people are reading copy that is 3 to 4 hours old.

trust me... they do not have their own in house wunderground geek staring at every 3 minute update on the live satellites and making analysis calls.


Harsh? GS...I don't understand you sometimes. As far as reading copy...just look at a visible satellite. Even at idiot like me can see that it's over land.
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1213. Tazmanian 01:31 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
ok 236
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1214. DocBen 01:32 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
It's looking more and more like 90L will become a Gulf storm. The frontal system working its way by here (Kansas) seems to give it a 'slot' to go NW and maybe even curve N.

Arthur ben Alma to be born tonight?
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1215. extreme236 01:32 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
I will be watching for another Disturbance statement by the NHC...they will probably issue one at 11am so we can hopefully here what they have to say.
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1217. hurricane23 01:34 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
1207. XoendHoroeken 9:28 AM EDT on May 31, 2008
The Hurricane Expo at MOSI starts today at 10. This is a great time to speak to mets and you get a lot of free stuff. I suggest if you live in Tampa to go.

Iam attending the one down here in south florida!Look forward on meeting again with max mayfield and bryan norcross.Bill Read will also be attending.
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1218. extreme236 01:34 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
My local mets are pretty good. They actually know what their talking about.
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1219. Tazmanian 01:34 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
if 90L dos be come are 1st name storm of the season its going to be a vary long june and july
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1220. Weatherman122 01:35 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
hi I have been lurking on these blogs for about 2 years and i was wondering what extreme236 thinks will happen to ivest 90l
1221. MasterForecaster 01:35 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
1199. IKE 8:25 AM CDT on May 31, 2008
1196....their just not paying close enough attention to what's actually happening...not doing their job, really.


i think that is a bit harsh. these people are reading copy that is 3 to 4 hours old.

trust me... they do not have their own in house wunderground geek staring at every 3 minute update on the live satellites and making analysis calls
.


Why? Every second they're not on the air they should be checking up with whats going on in the tropics. Isn't that their job?
1222. IKE 01:35 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
probably could cut them some slack.

Yeah...ok.
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1223. BahaHurican 01:35 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
1113. Josh305 7:49 AM EDT on May 31, 2008
Hi guys,
I'm new here and just wanted to introduce myself. I'm just a huge weather nut and I have been reading this blog for about a year and a half . . .

I was curious if you guys all have degrees in Meteorology?


How often have u been reading? By now even a casual reader would know the answer to this question . . . there've been so many fights in here about it. . . . LOL
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1225. IKE 01:37 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
99.998763 % of the population is getting up this morning, reading their paper, and drinking coffee, thinking about far more important things in their own indivindual lives.

As well they should...same with me...my health is more of an issue...but, I enjoy following the tropics....that's why the other folks are on here.

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1226. Weatherman122 01:38 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
hi i have been lurking these blogs for three years what do any of you think will happen to 90l
1227. extreme236 01:38 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
Weatherman122, from the information I have seen, it would appear 90L would move into the Southern Gulf of Mexico (AKA the Bay of Campeche). There, conditions would seem to be favorable for re-organization and possible tropical cyclone formation. The wild card with this is how long will it be over water when it gets to the Bay of Campeche. That will ultimately determine whether this becomes a tropical storm or not.
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1228. IKE 01:40 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
90L does appear to be moving north of west.
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1229. Tazmanian 01:40 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
if 90L dos not be come a TS then are 1st name storm would be june 5th for sure
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1230. TampaSpin 01:41 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
What time does the shuttle blast off.
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1231. stormkat 01:42 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
hey guys even if a tropical depression forms it wont live long...it sure cant go north cause of the blocking ridge...it will protect the la miss coast...the only way it could go would be into the yucatan and then die...so i wouldnt get to excited....its something to watch but the ssp are still kind of high down in that region.....stormkat
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1232. extreme236 01:42 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
Well Taz it would be impossible to say when another storm would form. Its only June and climatologically speaking June storms don't pop up like storms in August would.
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1233. Weatherman122 01:42 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
thank you extreme236
1234. MasterForecaster 01:43 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
1224...lol GS you know what I meant. It's not like I'm blasting them for being wrong, its just that someone who supposedly has a degree in meteorology should be able to tell if a system is over land, thats all.
1235. TheWeatherMan504 01:43 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
think that is a bit harsh. these people are reading copy that is 3 to 4 hours old.

trust me... they do not have their own in house wunderground geek staring at every 3 minute update on the live satellites and making analysis calls.


They should realize there was a TD right infront of there eyes.
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1236. Tazmanian 01:44 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
i find this vary odd that we could see are 1st name storm here come june and june 1st is are 1st fun day of the hurricane season cant wait to see what the 1st Tropical Weather Outlook would say
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1237. IKE 01:44 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
1234...

AMEN!
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1238. extreme236 01:44 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
No problem Weatherman

I will be back shortly.
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1240. Tazmanian 01:45 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
236 when we had june back in 05 we had a lot of storms
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1241. BahaHurican 01:46 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
1160. Weather456 8:42 AM EDT on May 31, 2008

Tracking the Eye

Eye of the Storm

They are good if you willing to buy a licence. I have the former.


I have the latter. It's not bad for the price, and, while it doesn't update CPac,WPac, SPac, or Ind storms, it does allow you to track them manually.

They are some others out there
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1242. MasterForecaster 01:48 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
@ 1239...I can see that video being posted on here a lot this season...
1243. stormkat 01:48 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
i think we have a rainmaker on our hands and thats it.now down the road i see something interesting developing in the nw caribbean that really bears watching.....i think this could threaten the gulf coast sometime late next weekend.....all the ingredients are there...stormkat
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1244. HGFL2 01:49 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
Good morning everyone. I just wanted to post and say that I am the same person as HurricaneGeek, just under a new handle. =)
1245. extreme236 01:49 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
Even in 2005 we only had 2 storms in June.
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1246. IKE 01:50 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
1243. stormkat 8:48 AM CDT on May 31, 2008
i think we have a rainmaker on our hands and thats it.now down the road i see something interesting developing in the nw caribbean that really bears watching.....i think this could threaten the gulf coast sometime late next weekend.....all the ingredients are there...stormkat


Some of the models are hinting at that.....
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1247. TampaSpin 01:51 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
Looks like Discovery blasts off around 5:02pm if my calculations are correct...
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1248. HurricaneSammy 01:53 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
=)
1249. stormkat 01:54 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
yes i know ike and that will bear watching....it could turn ito something really big....stormkat
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1250. TampaSpin 01:55 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
StormKat i agree with you for once. I think the left over low pressure that 90L is leaving will make an interesting week next week....time will tell, but seen it to many times.
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1251. BahaHurican 01:56 PM GMT del 31 Maggio 2008    
Morning, all.

I agree 90L has some impressive clouds with it, but unless the COC can get all the way out into the BOC, I don't think it will make it all the way to TS again. I also don't want to imagine how deep it may have gotten if it wasn't over land as much as it has been. That's a powerful little circulation centre there.

On the tropical waves coming off the African coast, I seem to recall quite a number of similarly, or even more, impressive waves early in the season last year as well. However, last year the CAtl conditions remained so unfavorable that even as far down the alphabet as Karen systems just couldn't survive. The interesting question for this year is whether the shear and ULLs etc will relent early in the season so that these waves can survive and even thrive on the crossing. If so, that prediction of 15/8/4 could become a reality.

TTYL
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