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Treating scientists as bags of mostly water
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 04:01 PM GMT del 26 Dicembre 2007 +3
During the holiday season, it's natural to ask philosophical questions such as, "what is the essence of being human?" Well, one way to answer that question is purely scientifically. Humans are mostly water (ugly bags of mostly water, according to Microbrain, Stardate 41463.9, Star Trek: The Next Generation,, Episode 17). More than half the human body is made up of water, and we can use that fact to measure how many humans are present at large gatherings. Such an experiment was performed at the 2006 American Geophysical Union (AGU) meeting in San Francisco, as reported in a November 2007 paper by Darin Desilets et al. of the University of Arizona. The experiment made use of the fact that cosmic rays are continually bombarding the earth, creating fast neutrons as a by-product of nuclear disintegrations. When these neutrons encounter large concentrations of hydrogen (such as found in ugly bags of mostly water), they get scattered. One can look at the resulting scattering pattern and deduce how much hydrogen is present, and make an estimation of the number of people present.


Figure 1. Ugly bag of mostly water (and co-founder of the Weather Underground) Perry Samson (right) poses in front of his Poster at the 2007 AGU meeting. Also pictured: Russ Rew and Mohan Ramamurthy of Unidata. Fast cosmic ray neutrons scattered from their bodies were used to help estimate the number of people present at the 2006 meeting.

The equipment needed to do so costs about $10,000, and was set up in the Moscone Convention Center in San Francisco during the 2006 AGU meeting. The scientists were able to show when lunch breaks occurred by pointing out a sharp reduction in neutron scattering when all the scientists filed out to grab a bite to eat. Desilets et al. estimated about 1,700 scientists were present in the Exhibit Hall of the convention center during the height of the conference, which is probably a reasonable estimate, given the stated capacity of 3575 people. The technique can also be used to perform measurements of water content of snow and soil, and Desilets et al. advertise that they are open to paid invitations to count crowds at Rio de Janerio's Carnival, Pamplona's running of the bulls, and the next World Cup Finals.

Happy New Year, everyone! I'll be back with a new blog on January 2.

Jeff Masters

References
Desliets, D., M. Zreda, T. Ferre, 2007, Scientist Water Equivalent Measured With Cosmic Rays at 2006 AGU Fall Meeting, EOS, TRANSACTIONS AMERICAN GEOPHYSICAL UNION, VOL. 88, NO. 48, PAGE 521, 2007.
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401. HadesGodWyvern 02:53 AM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
THE DEEP CYCLONE CENTERED NEAR 26.0ºN 38.0ºW. THIS SYSTEM HAS REMAINED STATIONARY FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS AND ORGANIZED CONVECTION IS STARTING TO DEVELOP.

QUIKSCAT WINDS SUGGEST THAT THERE ARE SOME GALE FORCE WINDS ALONG THE NORTHERN SEMI-CIRCLE OF THE SYSTEM...BUT THERE MAY BE SOME RAIN CONTAMINATION IN THE OBSERVED WINDS

THE FSU CYCLONE PHASE SPACE ANALYSES INDICATED THAT THE CYCLONE MAY BE BECOMING A HYBRID SYSTEM...BUT UNTIL MORE SYMMETRIC DEEP
CONVECTION DEVELOPS IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE CONSIDERED AN OCCLUDED LOW.
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402. Skyepony (Mod) 02:59 AM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
Been watching that blob in the east Atlantic. Quikscat has caught it the last 4 passes. Lastnight it was totally near nothing for winds on the south side & all the winds on the north were rain contaminated. Closed low but elongated. Check out this evening's pass.. Not so elongated now see some 30kt vectors on the northside & some winds beginning to pick up on the south side. Certainly more tropical today. Probibly not gonna get picked up by the trough headed for it. Models are torn if shear improves or not after.


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403. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 03:20 AM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
track mark
26.4n/38.3w 90l
26.1n/38.5w
25.9n/38.8w td/
26.1n/39.2w
...stop...
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404. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 03:25 AM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
if td before jan 1 08 gmt 07's list if after dec 31 gmt 08 list
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405. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 03:29 AM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
its historical either way
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406. JLPR 03:30 AM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
yup =P
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407. HadesGodWyvern 03:39 AM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
TROPICAL CYCLONE MELANIE IMMEDIATE UPDATE - Issued at 3:00 AM UTC
==========================================

As of 3:00 AM UTC, Tropical Cyclone Melanie [974 hPa] is located near 17.0S 117.9E or 375 kms north-northwest of Port Hedland and 430 kms north-northeast of Karratha, Australia has 10 minute sustained winds of 50 knots with gusts up to 70 knots. The cyclone is moving south at 6 knots.

AREA AFFECTED
Within 90 nautical miles of the centre.

FORECAST
Maximum winds to 50 knots near the centre increasing to 70 knots by 1800 UTC 29December.

Hurricane-Force winds within 20 nautical miles of centre after 1800 UTC 29 December with very high to phenomenal seas and heavy swell.

Storm-Force Winds within 45 nautical miles of centre with very rough to high seas and moderate to heavy swell.

Gale-Force Winds within 90 nautical miles of centre with very rough seas and moderate swell.

Tropical Cyclone Watch/Warnings
=====================
A CYCLONE WARNING remains in effect for coastal areas from Mardie to Wallal including Port Hedland and Karratha Dampier.

A CYCLONE WATCH remains in effect for remaining coastal parts between Broome and Coral Bay, extending inland to include Nanutarra and Marble Bar.
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408. HadesGodWyvern 03:45 AM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
South Central Indian Ocean

Tropical Cyclone Outlook (29Dec)
================================

There are no significant tropical lows currently in the region, however an active monsoon trough lies near 10S. A low may form along the trough between 90-100E in the next 48 hours and could develop early next with with a chance of tropical cyclone formation.

TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION POTENTIAL
===================================
SUNDAY: LOW
MONDAY-TUESDAY: MODERATE

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409. Cavin Rawlins 04:02 AM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
TMI Overpass of Subtropical Low

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410. Thundercloud01221991 04:08 AM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
They changed the label to invest instead of 90L
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411. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 04:12 AM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
28/2345 UTC 25.9n/38.2w ST 1.5/1.5 90L atlantic basin
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412. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 04:24 AM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
i notice that too tc ssd site flying invest now 20 min ago it was 90l but i think it may be 95l thats the next label left in 07
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413. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 04:37 AM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
gonna hover around there dozent have much time but fun to watch convection nice in n ne e but the rest is naked waitin to see diural max
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414. HadesGodWyvern 05:14 AM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
Bureau of Meteorology - Northern Territory

Tropical Cyclone Outlook (29December)
===========================================
An active monsoon trough lies across the northern Top End with a developing low near Jabiru. The low is expected to move east overnight, reaching the Gulf of Carpentaria on Monday morning.

TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION POTENTIAL
===================================
Sunday-Monday: Low
Tuesday: Moderate
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415. Cavin Rawlins 10:17 AM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
Convection has started to become consolidated around the center

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416. Cavin Rawlins 10:49 AM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
The subtropical depression is still embedded within a deep layered trough. It is responsible for that deep moisture plume originating from the Amazon Basin. The arrow shows the location of the mid-level center.

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417. Cavin Rawlins 11:00 AM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
Tropical Cyclone Melanie (04U)

0830 UTC DEC 29 2007

Pattern: Well define CDO and banding. Curved band arc 1.10

Current Intensity: CI 3.5/55/994

Adjustments: None

Final Estimate: CI 3.5

Dvorak Trends:
0000 UTC DEC 25 2007 - CI 1.5
1230 UTC DEC 26 2007 - CI 1.5
2200 UTC DEC 26 2007 - CI 1.5
1157 UTC DEC 27 2007 - CI 1.5
2030 UTC DEC 27 2007 - CI 1.8
0000 UTC DEC 28 2007 - CI 2.0
1000 UTC DEC 28 2007 - CI 3.0
2030 UTC DEC 28 2007 - CI 3.7
1030 UTC DEC 29 2007 - CI 3.5





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418. KoritheMan 11:04 AM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
Any idea why the subtropical low in the eastern Atlantic is not an invest?
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419. Cavin Rawlins 11:15 AM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
The little arrow shows the center

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420. Cavin Rawlins 11:15 AM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
418. KoritheMan 7:04 AM AST on December 29, 2007 Hide this comment.
Any idea why the subtropical low in the eastern Atlantic is not an invest?


Puzzles me..the NHC says Invest but nothing on the Navy site as yet
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421. Cavin Rawlins 11:30 AM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
One other thing I notice is that the cyclone becoming cut-off from surrounding sources of absolute vort. Indicating some subtropical/tropical transition.

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422. Cavin Rawlins 11:34 AM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
This morning's quikscat pass showed gale force winds have increase and extended to the Western and Eastern Semi-circles. Yesterday, gale force winds were mainly in the northern quadrant where the pressure gradient was tightest between the low and the Azores High.
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423. Cavin Rawlins 11:41 AM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
The GFS, CMC and NOGAPS all show the cyclone is currently a shallow, non frontal warm-core system.

Also notice the small radius of gale force winds (circles). Occluded cyclones have broad areas of gale force winds, hence their non-tropical nature. Subtropical and Tropical Cyclones have a smaller radius of gale force winds near the center, with the former greater than the latter.
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424. Cavin Rawlins 11:44 AM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
The forecast is very simple....the cyclone will move west to west-southwest to the south of the bridging subtropical ridge. Not a surprise.
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426. Cavin Rawlins 12:26 PM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
Massive Storm...A ship reported 50 knot winds around 0600Z.





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427. Cavin Rawlins 12:27 PM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
Gm StormW
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428. aspectre 12:28 PM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
349 Weather456 "The top image is AMSU-A 200mb [temperature] brightness..."

"...second image is temperature brightness in channel 8 or 100 mb or 14.1 km in the troposphere."

350 CatastrophicDL "456 why isn't Antarctica blue like the Arctic?"

The Arctic is in deep winter: 24hours of darkness, no solar heating.
The Antarctic is in high summer: 24hours of sunlight, maximum solar heating.
Edit in:
350 CatastrophicDL "456 why isn't Antarctica blue like the Arctic?"
360 Weather456 "I think it has to do with the seasons (winter up north; summer down south). I would have to look at an image taken in July to verify that."

Obviously I shoulda read the next page more carefully during my initial scan-thru.
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429. IKE 12:35 PM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
21.24 inches of rain...here, where I live...since October 1st, 2007...in Defuniak Springs,FL.
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430. Cavin Rawlins 12:42 PM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
Ice over the Northern Hudson Bay


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432. Cavin Rawlins 01:05 PM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
Ur Welcome
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433. Cazatormentas 01:34 PM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
Also notice the small radius of gale force winds (circles). Occluded cyclones have broad areas of gale force winds, hence their non-tropical nature. Subtropical and Tropical Cyclones have a smaller radius of gale force winds near the center, with the former greater than the latter.

I agree with this comment... But I think convection is better organized than before. Even, if you look at the wind shear fields of CIMMS, you could find that the low is located close to a region with "only" 10KT of wind shear. This value is lower than yesterday, when the low was located under 20 KT of wind shear.

In this way, I was sure the system will not start a tropical transition yesterday. But, today... I'm not sure. Perhaps, sea surface temperatures at this area could be the determining factor for tropical transition.

Any way, this is a very interesting issue for a 29th December!

See you again!
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434. Cavin Rawlins 01:39 PM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
Visible loop

Caza,

the loop above agrees with your comment. More consolidation of convection indicating wind shear has relax somewhat.
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435. Cazatormentas 02:00 PM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
Wow !! Good one, Weather456 !

Convection is trying to surround the center of the vortex. Visual appearance is close to a subtropical depression, at least... I know it is very dangerous to say this from only a satelital image, but I think there are lot of similarities with a subtropical depression...
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436. Cavin Rawlins 02:03 PM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
More evidence of subtropical

Look at the uniform surface temperatures

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437. Cavin Rawlins 02:07 PM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
I know it is very dangerous to say this from only a satellite image, but I think there are lot of similarities with a subtropical depression...

I think its safe...cuz satellite imagery is only one of many data which suggest subtropical. Just look back at my posts.
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438. sullivanweather 02:23 PM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
Time to dust off the 2007 Atlantic tracking chart...lol
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439. Cavin Rawlins 02:31 PM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
95L Models



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440. Tazmanian 02:38 PM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
hi 456 look at this 456

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SACRAMENTO CA
400 AM PST SAT DEC 29 2007

THE LAST SEVERAL RUNS OF THE GFS AND ECMWF HAVE BEEN ADVERTISING A
MAJOR PATTERN CHANGE BY THE END OF NEXT WEEK. THE POLAR VORTEX OVER
SIBERIA WILL CARVE OUT A DEEP...COLD AND PERSISTENT CYCLONE OVER THE
GULF OF ALASKA. AN "ADJUSTMENT" WAVE WILL MOVE THROUGH THE REGION
WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY WITH RAIN IN THE VALLEYS...AND SNOW ABOVE 5000
FEET OR SO. 06Z GFS HAS A BOMB 496DM UPPER LOW OFF THE WESTERN
CANADA COAST BY FRIDAY...BUT THE ECMWF...WHICH WAS DEEPER WITH THIS
YESTERDAY...HAS SOMEWHAT HIGHER HEIGHTS. BOTH MODELS IMPLY A PERIOD
OF VERY HEAVY SNOWFALL IN THE MOUNTAINS AS A SERIES OF SURFACE LOWS
MOVE INTO OREGON AND NORTHERN CALIFORNIA FROM THURSDAY NIGHT INTO
SUNDAY NIGH
T. INITIALLY IT APPEARS SNOW LEVELS WITH THESE SYSTEMS
WILL REMAIN BELOW DONNER SUMMIT MUCH OF THE TIME. WILL CONTINUE TO
MONITOR. SG

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441. Cavin Rawlins 02:43 PM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
440. Tazmanian 10:38 AM AST on December 29, 2007 Hide this comment.
hi 456 look at this 456


Taz, thank you so much.....A bomb...
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442. Tazmanian 02:46 PM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
456 no i did not no that may be you can keep me update on this powerfull strom by droping me a Wu e mail evere now and then this is some in that needs to be watch
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443. Cavin Rawlins 02:48 PM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
yeah..i will do that
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444. Tazmanian 02:51 PM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
thanks
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445. Cavin Rawlins 02:57 PM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
Storm south of the Aleutian Islands

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446. extreme236 03:11 PM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
SHIPS model brings 95L to 39kts in 36 hours, with weakening after 48 hours
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447. Orcasystems 03:15 PM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
WTF? Invest?
I planned the trip to Cancun in January because this not suppose to happen.

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448. CybrTeddy 03:17 PM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
Well, 2007 like 2005 refuses to End, wow should have seen it comming and right before Jan. 1 08! What a season.
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449. Tazmanian 03:20 PM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
456 how cold is a 496DM low?
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450. extreme236 03:21 PM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
If we are still getting activity like this so late in the season, it really wouldnt surprise me to see tropical activity before the official start of the 2008 hurricane season next year.
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451. extreme236 03:27 PM GMT del 29 Dicembre 2007    
Convection is wrapping nicely around a good part of the center
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