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Gulf of Mexico disturbance may develop; Chris a hurricane; record Duluth flooding
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 03:03 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012 +56
An area of low pressure and heavy thunderstorms entering the Southern Gulf of Mexico is bringing sporadic heavy rains to Western Cuba and Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula, and winds of 20 - 25 mph to surrounding ocean areas. This disturbance will need to be watched for development as it drifts slowly northward at about 5 mph into the Central Gulf of Mexico by Saturday. The disturbance is poorly organized, and has only a modest area of heavy thunderstorms. Wind shear is a moderate to high 15 - 25 knots over the region. Ocean temperatures are 81 - 83°F in the Western Caribbean and Southern Gulf of Mexico, which is about 1°F above average, and plenty warm to support formation of a tropical storm.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of the tropical disturbance entering the Southern Gulf of Mexico.

Forecast for Gulf of Mexico disturbance
Wind shear is predicted to remain in the moderate to high range through Friday. Water vapor satellite loops show a region of dry air over the Northern Gulf of Mexico; this dry air is probably too far away to significantly interfere with development. I expect we will see an increase in the disturbance's heavy thunderstorm activity today as a result of less interference from dry air. By Saturday, our two top models, the European model (ECMWF) and GFS, predict that wind shear could fall to the moderate range, 10 - 20 knots, which would potentially allow the disturbance to approach tropical depression status by Sunday. A trough of low pressure pushing off of the U.S. East Coast will be capable of grabbing the disturbance and accelerating it to the northeast on Sunday, as predicted by the GFS model, which takes the disturbance across Florida on Sunday, and into the waters off the coast of South Carolina by Monday. The GFS does not develop the disturbance while it is in the Gulf of Mexico, but suggests it could develop into a tropical or subtropical depression off the coast of South Carolina Monday or Tuesday. The latest ECMWF model run (00 UTC) predicts that this through will not be strong enough to pull the disturbance northeastwards across Florida, and the disturbance will instead linger in the Gulf of Mexico for many days, giving it time to develop into a tropical depression next week. The UKMET and NOGAPS models predict a more westward drift, with the disturbance affecting the Mexico/Texas border region 6 - 7 days from now. At this point, we can't rule out any location in the Gulf being affected by this system, though the Gulf coast of Florida has the highest probability of seeing impacts. NHC is giving the disturbance a 30% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Saturday morning. This is a reasonable forecast, and the odds will probably rise by Friday, and I give the disturbance a 50% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Monday morning.


Figure 2. Morning satellite image of Hurricane Chris.

Chris reaches hurricane strength; not a threat to land
Hurricane Chris has managed to intensify and form an eye-like feature surrounded by intense thunderstorms with very cold tops, despite the fact the storm is over cool waters of 22°C. NHC puts Chris at hurricane strength with 75 mph winds making it the first hurricane of the 2012 hurricane season. Chris attained hurricane strength unusually far to the north (41.1°N) for a June storm; only Hurricane One of 1893 was a June hurricane at a more northernly point (44°N) than Chris. Chris is headed northeastwards, out to sea, and will not trouble any land areas. Only twice before, in 1887 and 1959, has the third storm of the season formed earlier than June 20. Formation of three tropical storms so early in the year is not necessarily a harbinger of an active season; 1959 was close to average, with 12 named storms, 7 hurricanes, and 2 intense hurricanes (average is 11 named storms, 6 hurricanes, and 2 intense hurricanes.) Unusual levels of early season activity in the Caribbean and between Africa and the Lesser Antilles usually portends a very active hurricane season, but this year's storms have not formed in this region. Alberto, Beryl, and Chris all formed off the U.S. East Coast.


Figure 3. The St. Louis river upstream from Duluth, Minnesota reached its highest flood height on record this morning, 6.1' above flood stage. The river rose over ten feet in 24 hours. Image credit: NOAA.

Record flooding in Duluth, Minnesota
Flood waters have crested in Duluth, Minnesota this Thursday morning, and are slowly falling, in the wake of the city's all-time record 24-hour rainstorm. A series of "training" thunderstorms that followed the same path passed over a wide swath of Northern Minnesota between noon Tuesday and noon Wednesday, dropping 7.20" of rain on the city. According to wunderground's weather historian Christopher C. Burt, this far surpasses the previous 24-hour record rainfall for Duluth, the 5.79" that fell on August 22 - 23, 1978. Two rivers in the Duluth area, the Nemadji and St. Louis, hit their highest flood heights on record Thursday morning, causing destructive flooding. Sadly, major flooding occurred at the Duluth zoo, washing a seal into a neighboring street, and killing at least eleven zoo animals.

Jeff Masters
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2151. ProgressivePulse 03:51 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:


how about ice surrounded by boiling water


I was going to say that they could be considered related, lol.
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2152. TomTaylor 03:52 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Quoting Levi32:


You have AWIPS? That's not supposed to come out for the general public until 2013.

No I just use a linux platform with bash scripting. Ever since I bought a web domain I have discovered the awesomeness of a linux server. I hope to incorporate python scripts by the end of this summer that have the potential to produce graphics of the same caliber as Ryan Maue's. Tomorrow's graphics test (if there is a flight) uses the plotting engine from Octave (GNU's free version of Matlab), GNUplot.
That'd be awesome.

Quoting Levi32:
I'm really hoping 96L will look good enough for a recon flight tomorrow. I have some new plotting scripts that I can't wait to try that should produce some live graphics you guys haven't seen anywhere else on the public web.
I hope so too, can't wait to see the new stuff you've come up with...
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2153. TropicalAnalystwx13 03:52 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
The 00Z GFS has already trended much stronger than previous cycles.
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2154. TomTaylor 03:52 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Quoting LowerCal:
About the timeline for that QuikSCAT replacement...

....
The Cyclone Global Navigation Satellite System, or CYGNSS, will receive $151.7 million from NASA over the next five years. Eight microsatellites will launch together in 2017 on a single rocket, then deploy in low Earth orbit.
....

Quoting LowerCal:
Spaceflight Now | Breaking News | NASA funds satellite mission to measure hurricane winds
NASA's decision this week to fund a University of Michigan proposal to build a small satellite constellation, the first full mission award in the agency's low-cost Venture-class Earth science program, could help forecasters predict the intensification of tropical cyclones.
....
The satellites will make measurements similar to the QuikSCAT satellite, which lost the use of its spinning radar scatterometer instrument in 2009. During its 10-year mission, QuikSCAT detected wind speed and direction over 90 percent of the Earth's surface every day.
....
Since QuikSCAT's loss, forecasters at NOAA's National Hurricane Center have struggled to find a suitable replacement. NOAA has not funded the construction of another QuikSCAT satellite.

Trials with a radar payload on India's Oceansat 2 spacecraft should finish soon, allowing its wind measurements to be included in the tools used by U.S. meteorologists.

Although it uses a different detection technique, the CYGNSS [Cyclone Global Navigation Satellite System] mission will likely be the next U.S. satellite project able to provide accurate data on winds inside tropical cyclones, but Ruf said scientists are still studying how similar the CYGNSS measurements will be to QuikSCAT's results.
....

best news I've heard all day.
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2155. trey33 03:52 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Quoting RTSplayer:


Compliments.

Concurrent comments convey considerable contemplation.


Ooooooh! I may have to go to bed soon, lol!
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2156. Some1Has2BtheRookie 03:52 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Quoting bappit:
From the Houston-Galveston forecast discussion:

LASTLY WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP AN EYE ON CONVECTION IN S GULF. MODELS HAVE THIS DISTURBANCE BEING RATHER ILL-DEFINED THROUGH THE WEEKEND. UPPER LEVEL WIND SHEAR WILL ALSO BE AN IMPEDANCE TO TROPICAL DEVELOPMENT THROUGH THE WEEKEND. MODELS ARE VERY INCONSISTENT WITH THE SYSTEM SINCE IT IS NOT DEFINED OR DEVELOPED. UNTIL TROPICAL CYCLONE DEVELOPMENT OCCURS...IT WILL BE DIFFICULT TO FORECAST THE EVOLUTION ON THIS SYSTEM AND WILL MONITOR UNTIL THEN.


It almost sounds as if they are talking about an electrical storm. ;-) Does anyone have an extra ohm?
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2157. TomTaylor 03:53 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Quoting 34DDHaboobs:
We need the rain in S. Texas (San Antonio), especially because the Edwards Aquifer is almost at stage-3 levels of water restrictions, which would be a first.

Wouldn't mind a weak TS that comes and parks over us for a couple of days and provides 5-10 inches of rain.

I don't wishcast, I play The Cult's "Rain Song" and hope it works.
lol @ your username.
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2158. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 03:53 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Quoting angiest:


Hour 60, pressure below 1000mb.
by hr 120 it will be 992 cat 2 se of the south caroliner coasts
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2159. ProgressivePulse 03:53 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

You noticed that too?


I did but, tough to tell 100% at night. I do still notice a faint turning where the original low was tagged. Now storm chaser comes in with off the NW tip, lol, who knows....
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2160. nigel20 03:54 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Lol, you make it sound like it will be completely dead.

Yeah, as long as we don't have a strong el nino by the peak of the season, then we should still have a bit of activity in September.
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2161. CybrTeddy 03:54 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
The 00Z GFS has already trended much stronger than previous cycles.


Might be a different track as well.
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2162. ncstorm 03:54 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
wow..the GFS is much stronger..(yeah Im still up...watching Lebron and the refs get a ring)

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2163. ProgressivePulse 03:54 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Quoting FSUCOOPman:


Been saying that for the past 6 hours on here...That's why I'm thinking more of the westward model tracks will be wrong.


Yeah you got me looking there, same goes, tough at night.
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2164. Grothar 03:55 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Entirely too much joking on this blog. Please let's stay on topic.


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2165. FSUCOOPman 03:56 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Quoting TampaFLUSA:
New GFS running now. So far moving NE.


Time to turn on those Tampa turbo fans to blow it away.

I notified a couple of our Jacksonville office techs in charge of continuity of operations planning to keep an eye on the tropics, and then told they probably didn't have to worry after all of the models were going to Texas earlier today...

The flip-flop continues. I need to be more patient with slow developing systems.
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2166. ProgressivePulse 03:56 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Quoting Grothar:
Entirely too much joking on this blog. Please let's stay on topic.




Twit, lol.

King of sarcasim.
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2167. Levi32 03:56 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


Might be a different track as well.


It's stalling for a lot longer at any rate, deciding which way to go. I'm also glad the GFS finally decided to consolidate the system correctly instead of stringing it out into two lows.
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2168. JLPR2 03:56 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Quoting Grothar:
Entirely too much joking on this blog. Please let's stay on topic.




Why so serious Gro? XD
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2169. TropicalAnalystwx13 03:56 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
The 0Z GFS is MUCH more realistic than past runs. It doesn't over-amplify the trough.

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2170. Some1Has2BtheRookie 03:57 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Quoting Grothar:
Entirely too much joking on this blog. Please let's stay on topic.




Looks like all of the models forgot how to get to Miami. ;-)
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2171. trey33 03:57 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Quoting Grothar:
Entirely too much joking on this blog. Please let's stay on topic.




sorry
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2172. TropicalAnalystwx13 03:58 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
It's gonna do it....It's gonna split the storm in two.

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2173. angiest 03:58 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Not much movement between hours 60 and 84.

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2174. ncstorm 03:58 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
The 0Z GFS is MUCH more realistic than past runs. It doesn't over-amplify the trough.



its stalling as the Euro was..
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2175. TomTaylor 03:58 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
post from yesterday...

Quoting Levi32:
Chris is a great storm, but to be realistic he's over 22C water and it's getting colder. Theoretically "hurricanes" can exist at any water temperature if the air aloft is cold enough. Polar lows are arctic hurricanes, their own kind of "subtropical cyclone." If it's not over 26C or warmer water, you really can't call it tropical. It just isn't. The environment isn't tropical, therefore the storm can't be either. The question then becomes whether we should even bother designating non-tropical lows that are driven by (at least partially) convective processes instead of baroclinic ones. If we do, they really should not count in the season tropical cyclone tally.
Chris reached hurricane status over 20C waters today

Interesting though, isn't it? It's the exact same type of storm (warm core, non baroclinic) but it's well removed from the tropics. Just shows that it's not about the SSTs reaching a 80F, it's the SSTs reaching a certain temperature relative to the upper level temperature. It's all relative, after all.
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2176. CybrTeddy 03:58 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
The 0Z GFS is MUCH more realistic than past runs. It doesn't over-amplify the trough.



Took forever, looks like though the track so far would cause a lot of precip for the Gulf Coast.
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2177. TampaFLUSA 03:58 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
So far GFS has it stalling causing lots of rain over Fl.
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2178. angiest 03:59 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Quoting JLPR2:


Why so serious Gro? XD


That's a clown question, bro.
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2179. charlottefl 03:59 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Quoting angiest:
Not much movement between hours 60 and 84.



Sounds like Elana
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2180. ncstorm 03:59 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Two storms..

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2181. Levi32 03:59 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
On 2nd thought, GFS splits the low in two again:

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2182. Grothar 04:00 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
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2183. TropicalAnalystwx13 04:00 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Darn it GFS.

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2184. angiest 04:01 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Quoting charlottefl:


Sounds like Elana


I had the same thought.
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2185. CybrTeddy 04:01 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Darn it GFS.



Still not as weird as the runs the last few days, let it have a few more runs and it will probably not show that again.
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2186. Grothar 04:01 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Quoting ProgressivePulse:


Twit, lol.

King of sarcasim.


:)
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2187. allancalderini 04:02 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Quoting ncstorm:
Two storms..

Again??? anyways I don`t think this season will have less than 12. more like 14 to 16.
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2188. Seastep 04:03 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Off to bed. Overall circulation.

Taking a step back helps many times.

Link
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2189. TropicalAnalystwx13 04:03 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
It [the storm] has literally been in almost the exact same place for 2 days on this model run.

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2190. TampaFLUSA 04:04 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Quoting charlottefl:


Sounds like Elana

Lol Denis Phillips of ABC just tweeted the same thing..
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2191. jpsb 04:04 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Darn it GFS.

And I stayed up for that? lol, going to bed nite all, you in the AM.
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2193. TropicalAnalystwx13 04:04 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
I think we're headed to Texas on this run.
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2194. MississippiWx 04:05 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
It has literally been in almost the exact same place for 2 days.



Hard to move anywhere when it's being tugged a little from the northeast and a ridge hovering over it from the north and a ridge blocking it to the west.
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2195. Grothar 04:05 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Quoting Levi32:


It's stalling for a lot longer at any rate, deciding which way to go. I'm also glad the GFS finally decided to consolidate the system correctly instead of stringing it out into two lows.


I would not be surprised if a few more lows were to develop. It could be an interesting forcast. I am expecting another one in the Northern Caribbean and two in the Gulf. One to the Central Gulf and one to the eastern gulf. This may make me age even more.
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2196. BrickellBreeze 04:05 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Quoting Grothar:
Entirely too much joking on this blog. Please let's stay on topic.




Tampa?
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2197. Levi32 04:05 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Quoting TomTaylor:
post from yesterday...

Chris reached hurricane status over 20C waters today

Interesting though, isn't it? It's the exact same type of storm (warm core, non baroclinic) but it's well removed from the tropics. Just shows that it's not about the SSTs reaching a 80F, it's the SSTs reaching a certain temperature relative to the upper level temperature. It's all relative, after all.


Well exactly. Hurricanes can exist at any water temperature given the right conditions, but obviously there is another cut-off between tropical and nontropical, because a polar low is not tropical.
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2198. gbreezegirl 04:06 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
The weather on local Mobile station - guy says 50% chance it could go East and 50% chance it could go West. LOL. Really??
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2199. scott39 04:06 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
I said earlier this was going to be a LA/MS/AL event, and now my opinion is worth at least 5 cents. Models keep wanting to kiss our shores.
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2200. Grothar 04:07 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Quoting JLPR2:


Why so serious Gro? XD


I am always serious. :)
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2201. trey33 04:07 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2012    
Quoting gbreezegirl:
The weather on local Mobile station - guy says 50% chance it could go East and 50% chance it could go West. LOL. Really??


Tampa met says it will stall in the GOM for many days (nothing until mid next week) Not sure about that. Maybe I guess?
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