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Gulf of Mexico disturbance may develop; Chris a hurricane; record Duluth flooding
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 03:03 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012 +56
An area of low pressure and heavy thunderstorms entering the Southern Gulf of Mexico is bringing sporadic heavy rains to Western Cuba and Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula, and winds of 20 - 25 mph to surrounding ocean areas. This disturbance will need to be watched for development as it drifts slowly northward at about 5 mph into the Central Gulf of Mexico by Saturday. The disturbance is poorly organized, and has only a modest area of heavy thunderstorms. Wind shear is a moderate to high 15 - 25 knots over the region. Ocean temperatures are 81 - 83°F in the Western Caribbean and Southern Gulf of Mexico, which is about 1°F above average, and plenty warm to support formation of a tropical storm.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of the tropical disturbance entering the Southern Gulf of Mexico.

Forecast for Gulf of Mexico disturbance
Wind shear is predicted to remain in the moderate to high range through Friday. Water vapor satellite loops show a region of dry air over the Northern Gulf of Mexico; this dry air is probably too far away to significantly interfere with development. I expect we will see an increase in the disturbance's heavy thunderstorm activity today as a result of less interference from dry air. By Saturday, our two top models, the European model (ECMWF) and GFS, predict that wind shear could fall to the moderate range, 10 - 20 knots, which would potentially allow the disturbance to approach tropical depression status by Sunday. A trough of low pressure pushing off of the U.S. East Coast will be capable of grabbing the disturbance and accelerating it to the northeast on Sunday, as predicted by the GFS model, which takes the disturbance across Florida on Sunday, and into the waters off the coast of South Carolina by Monday. The GFS does not develop the disturbance while it is in the Gulf of Mexico, but suggests it could develop into a tropical or subtropical depression off the coast of South Carolina Monday or Tuesday. The latest ECMWF model run (00 UTC) predicts that this through will not be strong enough to pull the disturbance northeastwards across Florida, and the disturbance will instead linger in the Gulf of Mexico for many days, giving it time to develop into a tropical depression next week. The UKMET and NOGAPS models predict a more westward drift, with the disturbance affecting the Mexico/Texas border region 6 - 7 days from now. At this point, we can't rule out any location in the Gulf being affected by this system, though the Gulf coast of Florida has the highest probability of seeing impacts. NHC is giving the disturbance a 30% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Saturday morning. This is a reasonable forecast, and the odds will probably rise by Friday, and I give the disturbance a 50% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Monday morning.


Figure 2. Morning satellite image of Hurricane Chris.

Chris reaches hurricane strength; not a threat to land
Hurricane Chris has managed to intensify and form an eye-like feature surrounded by intense thunderstorms with very cold tops, despite the fact the storm is over cool waters of 22°C. NHC puts Chris at hurricane strength with 75 mph winds making it the first hurricane of the 2012 hurricane season. Chris attained hurricane strength unusually far to the north (41.1°N) for a June storm; only Hurricane One of 1893 was a June hurricane at a more northernly point (44°N) than Chris. Chris is headed northeastwards, out to sea, and will not trouble any land areas. Only twice before, in 1887 and 1959, has the third storm of the season formed earlier than June 20. Formation of three tropical storms so early in the year is not necessarily a harbinger of an active season; 1959 was close to average, with 12 named storms, 7 hurricanes, and 2 intense hurricanes (average is 11 named storms, 6 hurricanes, and 2 intense hurricanes.) Unusual levels of early season activity in the Caribbean and between Africa and the Lesser Antilles usually portends a very active hurricane season, but this year's storms have not formed in this region. Alberto, Beryl, and Chris all formed off the U.S. East Coast.


Figure 3. The St. Louis river upstream from Duluth, Minnesota reached its highest flood height on record this morning, 6.1' above flood stage. The river rose over ten feet in 24 hours. Image credit: NOAA.

Record flooding in Duluth, Minnesota
Flood waters have crested in Duluth, Minnesota this Thursday morning, and are slowly falling, in the wake of the city's all-time record 24-hour rainstorm. A series of "training" thunderstorms that followed the same path passed over a wide swath of Northern Minnesota between noon Tuesday and noon Wednesday, dropping 7.20" of rain on the city. According to wunderground's weather historian Christopher C. Burt, this far surpasses the previous 24-hour record rainfall for Duluth, the 5.79" that fell on August 22 - 23, 1978. Two rivers in the Duluth area, the Nemadji and St. Louis, hit their highest flood heights on record Thursday morning, causing destructive flooding. Sadly, major flooding occurred at the Duluth zoo, washing a seal into a neighboring street, and killing at least eleven zoo animals.

Jeff Masters
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1201. muddertracker 10:17 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting TAMPASHIELD:


Might want to Evac now, as you soon can!


hahahha...evacuate the whole gomex coastline! Shields UP! lol!
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1202. AllStar17 10:18 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
I have marked where I think that a low is trying to consolidate.
LOOP
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1203. Methurricanes 10:20 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Has a storm in the GOM ever not make landfall? either dissapating, or slipping out.
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1204. ncstorm 10:21 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
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1205. MississippiWx 10:22 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Tops of -80C or colder on the Yucatan Peninsula.

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1207. STXHurricanes2012 10:22 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
When I mean trash I mean its convective feedbacks producing two systems lol I dont see a split happening!
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1208. CarolinaHurricanes87 10:22 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Judging by the visible satellite loop, seems that shear over the system is dropping rather quickly. This would make sense, given that it seems to be organizing itself despite being over land. If there is little shear, and the low drifts N into the warm waters, is this thing ready to explode?
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1209. FLWeatherFreak91 10:22 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
How 'bout we do some forecasting instead of model-casting... geez
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1212. FLWeatherFreak91 10:23 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting Methurricanes:
Has a storm in the GOM ever not make landfall? either dissapating, or slipping out.
Yep. I can't remember any names specifically, but I do recall a couple storms that have been approaching the central northern gulf coast and have been sheared to nothingness before reaching land.
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1213. AllStar17 10:24 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting FLWeatherFreak91:
How 'bout we do some forecasting instead of model-casting... geez


OK. I think 96L will make landfall somewhere between Florida and Texas as anything ranging from an invest to a hurricane.

Is that a good forecast?

Just joking around...but it is still too early to tell.
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1214. Hurricanes305 10:24 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting WxLogic:
18Z GFS is quite persistent. It appears that compared to the other models... it wants to re-develop the LLC closer to the deep convection which is to the E of the currently estimated LLC. This causes it to head for FL.

Interesting enough, the CONUS upper level steering patterns are relatively the same between the 18Z NAM and GFS. Based on this... if the LLC re-develops overnight closer to the deeper convection to the E with the assistance of DMAX then I would be include to go with GFS if such occurs and 00Z runs still persist to take 96L NE to E.

If the LLC is able to stay on a due N/NW course overnight with deeper convection developing close to it then a W track will definitely be most likely.


Great analysis if it continues N/NW shear it will run into a wall of shear 20-30 knots

Link

However the upper ridge is spreading more NE
So if this system continues to organize it will need to move/redevelop further NE along the anticyclone and the Convection. The shift in consensus was because the LLC developed further west and the models thinks it will continue on its N/NW track thus makes it more likely to get caught in a High. But an NE track or a redevelop to its convection will likely mean it feels the influence of the trough also if it deepens some as well. Bottom-line its too early to tell.
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1215. AllStar17 10:25 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting TropicalWxBlogger:


An example being, hurricane Irene 2011? She had 115mph winds and 942mb pressure at one period.


Yes. That is a great example.
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1216. 10Speed 10:25 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting HurricaneHunterJoe:


My buddy in SW Florida will disagree, he's telling me Ft Myers,Estero,Bonita Springs and Naples wet season has changed, everytime I talk to him. They have had some close calls with Hurricanes recently Charley,Wilma,but as far as the "wet season", it just ain't happening for him. So,although it now looks like Florida may be getting off the hook,I gotta hope he gets his TD/Weak TS to quench his thirst for water.


Your buddy in SW Florida might be between floors or something. A lot of people in SW Florida make the low rain whine just about every year. But .... look at the charts. They are quite blessed annually in relation to many other areas of Florida.
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1217. stormwatcherCI 10:25 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting FLWeatherFreak91:
Yep. I can't remember any names specifically, but I do recall a couple storms that have been approaching the central northern gulf coast and have been sheared to nothingness before reaching land.
Don.
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1218. Hurricanes305 10:25 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting AllStar17:


OK. I think 96L will make landfall somewhere between Florida and Texas as anything ranging from an invest to a hurricane.

Is that a good forecast?


You are more broad and all over the place than the models
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1219. AllStar17 10:26 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting stormwatcherCI:
Don.


Talk about fizzling! That dried up within a matter of seconds, it seemed!
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1220. muddertracker 10:28 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting stormwatcherCI:
Don.


Donny boy wasn't sheered...he ingested dry air..I think?
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1221. AtHomeInTX 10:29 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
KBMT

Heat is on, watching tropics...

Forecast Discussion

High pressure will squash rain chances for the next few days bringing us summer heat for the next several days.

We'll see afternoon highs climb from the middle 90's back into the upper 90's, if not close to 100 for the afternoons between Saturday and Tuesday.

There will be no rain chances for these days. The big "x-factor" in the forecast lies beyond Tuesday as a developing tropical wave currently in the western Caribbean will likely become another depression within 48 hours. The Hurricane Center gives it a 50% chance of doing so.

Models are all over the place in its eventual track. The 2 scenarios differ tremendously and it warrants close scrutiny for all of SE Texas over the weekend and next week.

The same high pressure on top of SE Texas may break down and move west allowing would become "Debby" to move towards Texas by next Wednesday.

Another solution is the high pressure remains in place and moves back towards Florida as a hurricane. The models are increasingly favoring the first scenario of a westward track, so please continue to watch the system.

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1222. biloxibob 10:29 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting MTWX:


I hear ya! I will be in Biloxi fishing on Monday. Hopefully it doesn't decide to head that way in the future, even though it is currently not predicted to!!
Biloxi may be in the cone. We will see.
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1223. weatherwiz 10:29 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Three scenarios can take place. Scenario #1 the disturbance may not get its act together leaving a heavy blob of moisture to the east of the broad circulation which the GFS is hinting at. Scenario #2 the disturbance gets it act together and becomes a TD or TS and the trough picks it up and moves over Florida. Scenario #3 the trough misses the TD or TS and the large ridge over Texas shunts it to the WSW. Either one of the scenarios are up in the air till new model runs come out.
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1224. Fishaholic25fl 10:29 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting ProgressivePulse:
looks good to me dont see how this thing dosent follow jet stream
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1225. TAMPASHIELD 10:29 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
I find it funny that when most of the models shifted west, the blog traffic slowed to 2 post each 5 mins. FLcasters at their finest! stupid Florida!
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1227. CrazyDuke 10:31 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Well, this is a bit different: Chris is getting passed by an extra-tropical cyclone to the south. And, as they rotate around a common center, I wonder if it will end up being the tropical cyclone that pulls the extra-tropical cyclone northwards.

In other news: Man bites dog.
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1228. GTcooliebai 10:31 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
96L is trying to ramp up over land. Look at the tightening up of the circulation and convection firing over it. 96L Long Floater - Visible Imagery Loop
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1229. icmoore 10:31 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Little thing but watching that band of rain move off the coast here on a very zoomed in area between St Pete and Tarpon Springs I was impressed by how they were broken up and spotty on land but as soon as they hit the Gulf it was if they reached out hands to form a solid band.
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1230. louisianaboy444 10:32 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
I think this will be the night we see 96L make strides by popping heavier convection near the Yucatan center. The anticyclone has set up right over this area and the big swath of convection looks to be moving off to the east and becoming non-significant. This will give the convection greater concentration near the LLC. As was just stated strong convection is already beginning to pop in that area
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1231. Fishaholic25fl 10:32 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting TAMPASHIELD:
I find it funny that when most of the models shifted west, the blog traffic slowed to 2 post each 5 mins. FLcasters at their finest! stupid Florida!
most the blog is from florida what do you expect lol.
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1232. MiamiHurricanes09 10:35 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting TAMPASHIELD:
I find it funny that when most of the models shifted west, the blog traffic slowed to 2 post each 5 mins. FLcasters at their finest! stupid Florida!
You mad bro.

I hate tropical weather when it affects south Florida, screws up everything and I'm stuck indoors because of the wind and thunderstorms.
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1233. tamipeach 10:35 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Well Texas needs rain as so does Florida so lets just hope it is more rain than wind where ever it ends up.
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1234. GeoffreyWPB 10:36 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
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1235. Gorty 10:36 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
GFS has a 1004 mb low in FL. Then it has it go out to sea.
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1236. j2008 10:36 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting louisianaboy444:
I think this will be the night we see 96L make strides by popping heavier convection near the Yucatan center. The anticyclone has set up right over this area and the big swath of convection looks to be moving off to the east and becoming non-significant. This will give the convection greater concentration near the LLC. As was just stated strong convection is already beginning to pop in that area
It actually appears that the big convection blob is helping to kick start some banding. Possibly.Link
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1237. midnite02 10:36 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
It will go to Patrap house get some fresca then go to texas and drop the fresca on them. from there it go to tampa and die off. this is just a forecast and subject to change in the near future.
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1238. Gorty 10:37 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Btw, Caribbean to watch in first week of July as per GFS if it stays consistent.
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1239. TAMPASHIELD 10:37 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting midnite02:
It will go to Patrap house get some fresca then go to texas and drop the fresca on them. from there it go to tampa and die off. this is just a forecast and subject to change in the near future.


Ain't gonna happen, I got the shield on!
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1241. bayoubug 10:38 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Could the trough pick it up and move it ne towards the big bend area. Then the high builds in and pushes it back west.But closer to the coast almost like elena in 1985..
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1242. hurricanehunter27 10:39 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting Fishaholic25fl:
most the blog is from florida what do you expect lol.
Idk there is a large portion from the NC/SC and GA as well.
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1243. icmoore 10:39 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting midnite02:
It will go to Patrap house get some fresca then go to texas and drop the fresca on them. from there it go to tampa and die off. this is just a forecast and subject to change in the near future.


LOL!!
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1245. TampaBayStormChaser 10:39 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Daytime heating is helping to produce strong storms with very cold cloud tops over the Yucatan. The low should gradually pull N and NW. If it is this active over land, imagine how rapidly 96L may strengthen once it gets further out in the Gulf.

As I have been saying since yesterday, Texas may see a significant hurricane.
Florida should still watch it, but the trough does not look impressive enough on globals to pull it to FL>
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1246. islander101010 10:40 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
northern.part.seems.to.be.moving.west.southern.low. seem.stationary
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1247. TropicalAnalystwx13 10:40 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting seriousman1:


florida people need to be more mature about these things...debby is heading to states in play ...texas louisiana mississippi or alabama..florida is not in the mix anymore..

I'm glad you can honestly rule out Florida when the system isn't even developed yet. May I borrow your crystal ball for the rest of the season? ;-)
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1249. ncstorm 10:41 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Pretty good low that rolled off Africa..

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1250. tamipeach 10:41 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting seriousman1:


florida people need to be more mature about these things...debby is heading to states in play ...texas louisiana mississippi or alabama..florida is not in the mix anymore..


I wouldn't go that far, I would say that Florida is less likely now but as the models show, it can change every run. As one of those "Florida people" I think we all need to wait and see what happens when the models get data from the HH and stop calling names:)
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1251. DavidHOUTX 10:42 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting sporteguy03:

So it failed with Beryl too? It had Beryl pegged very well. I mean really guys, The GFS is an excellent model as is the Euro. It has been persistent in its track. It is just offering a different solution I would not call it trash. Just another possibility.


You have a point there with Beryl, but he fact that the Euro jumped West after the invest was established kind of has to make a statement. I do think the GFS is a good model but I just cannot see this storm splitting into 2 lows. That just does not sound feasible to me. However, anything is possible.
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