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Gulf of Mexico disturbance may develop; Chris a hurricane; record Duluth flooding
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 03:03 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012 +56
An area of low pressure and heavy thunderstorms entering the Southern Gulf of Mexico is bringing sporadic heavy rains to Western Cuba and Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula, and winds of 20 - 25 mph to surrounding ocean areas. This disturbance will need to be watched for development as it drifts slowly northward at about 5 mph into the Central Gulf of Mexico by Saturday. The disturbance is poorly organized, and has only a modest area of heavy thunderstorms. Wind shear is a moderate to high 15 - 25 knots over the region. Ocean temperatures are 81 - 83°F in the Western Caribbean and Southern Gulf of Mexico, which is about 1°F above average, and plenty warm to support formation of a tropical storm.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of the tropical disturbance entering the Southern Gulf of Mexico.

Forecast for Gulf of Mexico disturbance
Wind shear is predicted to remain in the moderate to high range through Friday. Water vapor satellite loops show a region of dry air over the Northern Gulf of Mexico; this dry air is probably too far away to significantly interfere with development. I expect we will see an increase in the disturbance's heavy thunderstorm activity today as a result of less interference from dry air. By Saturday, our two top models, the European model (ECMWF) and GFS, predict that wind shear could fall to the moderate range, 10 - 20 knots, which would potentially allow the disturbance to approach tropical depression status by Sunday. A trough of low pressure pushing off of the U.S. East Coast will be capable of grabbing the disturbance and accelerating it to the northeast on Sunday, as predicted by the GFS model, which takes the disturbance across Florida on Sunday, and into the waters off the coast of South Carolina by Monday. The GFS does not develop the disturbance while it is in the Gulf of Mexico, but suggests it could develop into a tropical or subtropical depression off the coast of South Carolina Monday or Tuesday. The latest ECMWF model run (00 UTC) predicts that this through will not be strong enough to pull the disturbance northeastwards across Florida, and the disturbance will instead linger in the Gulf of Mexico for many days, giving it time to develop into a tropical depression next week. The UKMET and NOGAPS models predict a more westward drift, with the disturbance affecting the Mexico/Texas border region 6 - 7 days from now. At this point, we can't rule out any location in the Gulf being affected by this system, though the Gulf coast of Florida has the highest probability of seeing impacts. NHC is giving the disturbance a 30% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Saturday morning. This is a reasonable forecast, and the odds will probably rise by Friday, and I give the disturbance a 50% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Monday morning.


Figure 2. Morning satellite image of Hurricane Chris.

Chris reaches hurricane strength; not a threat to land
Hurricane Chris has managed to intensify and form an eye-like feature surrounded by intense thunderstorms with very cold tops, despite the fact the storm is over cool waters of 22°C. NHC puts Chris at hurricane strength with 75 mph winds making it the first hurricane of the 2012 hurricane season. Chris attained hurricane strength unusually far to the north (41.1°N) for a June storm; only Hurricane One of 1893 was a June hurricane at a more northernly point (44°N) than Chris. Chris is headed northeastwards, out to sea, and will not trouble any land areas. Only twice before, in 1887 and 1959, has the third storm of the season formed earlier than June 20. Formation of three tropical storms so early in the year is not necessarily a harbinger of an active season; 1959 was close to average, with 12 named storms, 7 hurricanes, and 2 intense hurricanes (average is 11 named storms, 6 hurricanes, and 2 intense hurricanes.) Unusual levels of early season activity in the Caribbean and between Africa and the Lesser Antilles usually portends a very active hurricane season, but this year's storms have not formed in this region. Alberto, Beryl, and Chris all formed off the U.S. East Coast.


Figure 3. The St. Louis river upstream from Duluth, Minnesota reached its highest flood height on record this morning, 6.1' above flood stage. The river rose over ten feet in 24 hours. Image credit: NOAA.

Record flooding in Duluth, Minnesota
Flood waters have crested in Duluth, Minnesota this Thursday morning, and are slowly falling, in the wake of the city's all-time record 24-hour rainstorm. A series of "training" thunderstorms that followed the same path passed over a wide swath of Northern Minnesota between noon Tuesday and noon Wednesday, dropping 7.20" of rain on the city. According to wunderground's weather historian Christopher C. Burt, this far surpasses the previous 24-hour record rainfall for Duluth, the 5.79" that fell on August 22 - 23, 1978. Two rivers in the Duluth area, the Nemadji and St. Louis, hit their highest flood heights on record Thursday morning, causing destructive flooding. Sadly, major flooding occurred at the Duluth zoo, washing a seal into a neighboring street, and killing at least eleven zoo animals.

Jeff Masters
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901. yonzabam 08:20 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting BaltimoreBrian:
I think the circulation in the central Gulf of Mexico is the dominant circulation and will become more so.


I don't see any rotation, at all.
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902. AtHomeInTX 08:20 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting weatherh98:
gotta go my brain is fried


Right behind you.
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903. BaltimoreBrian 08:21 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting yonzabam:


I don't see any rotation, at all.


I do when I squint.
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904. Patrap 08:21 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Early RAAMB Invest page,data to fill in AL962012 - INVEST


Storm Relative 16km Geostationary Water Vapor Imagery

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905. HurricaneDean07 08:21 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
BBL
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906. SFLWeatherman 08:21 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Q: What will 96L be at 8PM

A. 50%
B. 60%
C. 70%
D. 80%
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907. flwxboy 08:21 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
18Z Early Models

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908. cyclonekid 08:22 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting SFLWeatherman:
Q: What will 96L be at 8PM

A. 50%
B. 60%
C. 70%
D. 80%
Mmmmmmm...... A.
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909. yoboi 08:22 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting Tazmanian:
i think in the new two


we will see it stay at 50% or see a jump too 60 or 70%


you will be either right or wrong with that call....
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910. Tazmanian 08:23 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting SFLWeatherman:
Q: What will 96L be at 8PM

A. 50%
B. 60%
C. 70%
D. 80%



C or D
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911. Levi32 08:23 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Gotta get back to work. Back later this evening.
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912. MississippiWx 08:23 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting Levi32:


Central gulf trough is the tropical wave from the Caribbean that started this whole thing. Yucatan low is a spinoff from the central America monsoon low. The old tropical wave still has spatial dominance and has the advantage of being where low pressure will naturally want to develop, to the north where the pressure gradient is. The two will merge eventually.


I could see that if the northernmost circulation were not quickly rotating around the other low pressure center. While those maps may be model-generated, they seem to have a lot of support from surface data. I agree on the merging of the two. Considering the vast amount of convection and looking at the big picture of the Gulf, it just seems that the northern area is losing big time in the face of 40kts of shear. We'll see.
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913. xcool 08:24 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
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914. Jedkins01 08:24 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting Stormchaser121:

looks like Matagorda bay TX it hits



I doubt it, these summer troughs are often underestimated and have burned forecasters many times already. It will move northwest initially, but the trough will come down and likely sweep it northeast. I'm not saying I have absolute confidence that it will, that would be stupid, but it still seems much more likely. I like the GFS solution which keeps it relatively weak, anything this broad will likely struggle to attain significant strengthening, the GFS is calling for just a giant Florida rain maker, I'm sticking with that scenario right now. Although I think the GFS is a bit overdone by painting a 24 inch bulls eye southwest of Tampa. No matter where you live in the world that is very excessive rainfall and not that common, so I'm discounting that right now, however at least 5 to 10 inches is a reasonable expectation.
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915. pcola57 08:24 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Looks as though the CV is possibly lining up a few suprises for us...



Here's the link for it at the NHC
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916. AtHomeInTX 08:24 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting ncstorm:


lol..those conference calls have gone to hotline calls now..two lows as I have been saying for a minute


Yeah. The HPC was all set on their track forecast before they called the NHC. LOL
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918. Patrap 08:26 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    







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919. DavidHOUTX 08:27 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
18z Nam @ 36 hours


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920. Patrap 08:27 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
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921. SFLWeatherman 08:28 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
GFS for precip for the next 72 hours .
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922. DavidHOUTX 08:28 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
18z Nam @ 45 hours

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923. Civicane49 08:29 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
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924. washingaway 08:30 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting MississippiWx:


I could see that if the northernmost circulation were not quickly rotating around the other low pressure center. While those maps may be model-generated, they seem to have a lot of support from surface data. I agree on the merging of the two. Considering the vast amount of convection and looking at the big picture of the Gulf, it just seems that the northern area is losing big time in the face of 40kts of shear. We'll see.


Merging of the two what? Low?
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925. tramp96 08:31 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
How come nobody is talking about all the Gulf oil that is going to be splatered everywhere.Run for the hills
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926. Gorty 08:31 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting DavidHOUTX:
18z Nam @ 45 hours



I learned from other people the NAM is not a good model for tropical systems.
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928. mobileshadow 08:33 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting tramp96:
How come nobody is talking about all the Gulf oil that is going to be splatered everywhere.Run for the hills


Cause BP has brainwashed everybody into thinking that it's no longer out there but it is
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929. Civicane49 08:33 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
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930. 1900hurricane 08:34 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting flwxboy:
18Z Early Models


Well, that looks real helpful... :P
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931. RTSplayer 08:34 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Ensemble raw data:

TG, 0002, 2012062115_F000_205N_0899W_FOF, 2012062115, 03, SAN2, 072, 265N, 908W, 47, 986, XX, 34, NEQ, 0139, 0000, 0110, 0125, 991, 62, 63, -170, 1293, 1471, Y, 263, 28, 471, 625, 426, 565
TG, 0002, 2012062115_F000_205N_0899W_FOF, 2012062115, 03, SAN2, 078, 264N, 914W, 51, 980, XX, 34, NEQ, 0175, 0116, 0129, 0137, 987, 62, 66, -105, 1286, 1593, Y, 255, 31, 550, 725, 481, 655

TG, 0002, 2012062115_F000_205N_0899W_FOF, 2012062115, 03, SAN2, 084, 259N, 921W, 53, 975, XX, 34, NEQ, 0164, 0112, 0119, 0156, 982, 40, 50, -112, 1430, 1923, Y, 224, 41, 622, 836, 566, 736


53kts, but 975mb pressure.

Looks like this particular model run calls for a HUGE Tropical Storm with basically cat 1 pressures, due s. of central Louisiana, so very much an Alex clone, as I've noted all morning.
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932. CybrTeddy 08:35 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting DavidHOUTX:
18z Nam @ 36 hours




I wouldn't use the NAM for forecasting guidance tbh.
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933. mobileshadow 08:35 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting 1900hurricane:

Well, that looks real helpful... :P


I suspect that the HWRF and GFDL will show the same thing this evening
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934. Articuno 08:37 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting Patrap:








Getting that "look".
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935. SubtropicalHi 08:37 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting HurricaneDean07:
South Texas is Overdue for a storm, it hasn't been hit since 1999 Bret.
I guess the other place you could say is Corpus Christi(Corpus is middle Texas coast)

Just so you know:
South padre South is South Texas
Port O' Connor to South padre is Middle
and Beaumont to Port O' connor is Upper Coast.


Hurricane Dolly 2008
Tropical Storms: Erin (2007 Corpus) & Hermine (2010)
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936. Civicane49 08:37 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
BULLETIN
TROPICAL STORM CHRIS ADVISORY NUMBER 9
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL032012
500 PM AST THU JUN 21 2012

...CHRIS BEGINS TO WEAKEN...NOW A TROPICAL STORM...


SUMMARY OF 500 PM AST...2100 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...42.4N 42.9W
ABOUT 585 MI...940 KM ESE OF CAPE RACE NEWFOUNDLAND
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...70 MPH...110 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NNE OR 15 DEGREES AT 14 MPH...22 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...990 MB...29.23 INCHES
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937. MississippiWx 08:38 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


I wouldn't use the NAM for forecasting guidance tbh.


The NAM has been doing better than the GFS with 96L.
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938. nigel20 08:38 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
...CHRIS BEGINS TO WEAKEN...NOW A TROPICAL STORM...
5:00 PM AST Thu Jun 21
Location: 42.4°N 42.9°W
Moving: NNE at 14 mph
Min pressure: 990 mb
Max sustained: 70 mph
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939. tramp96 08:39 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting mobileshadow:


Cause BP has brainwashed everybody into thinking that it's no longer out there but it is

Gentleman's bet you don't see any
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940. CybrTeddy 08:40 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Heh, Chris only lasted for one advisory package as a Hurricane. Oh well, the total is still 3-1-0, which is very impressive for June.
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941. Stormchaser2007 08:40 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
850mb vort

This is why you don't use the NAM for tropical development.

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942. SubtropicalHi 08:40 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting RitaEvac:


If that were to happen, Buda, TX will be underwater.


Hey!!..Don't get hopes up.
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943. SFLWeatherman 08:41 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Soon to be 4-2-1 lol jk,
Quoting CybrTeddy:
Heh, Chris only lasted for one advisory package as a Hurricane. Oh well, the total is still 3-1-0, which is very impressive for June.
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944. RTSplayer 08:41 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Norcross is sort of saying the same thing we are: Strong west scenario vs weak east scenario.

I guess it really is going to come down to some fine details on this one since the GFS and Euro currently have totally opposite solutions.
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945. nigel20 08:42 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting CybrTeddy:
Heh, Chris only lasted for one advisory package as a Hurricane. Oh well, the total is still 3-1-0, which is very impressive for June.

Yeah, definitely!
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946. gator23 08:42 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting BaltimoreBrian:


I do when I squint.

I do when I drink
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947. RitaEvac 08:43 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting RTSplayer:
Norcross is sort of saying the same thing we are: Strong west scenario vs weak east scenario.

I guess it really is going to come down to some fine details on this one since the GFS and Euro currently have totally opposite solutions.


This is a special blog
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948. cheaterwon 08:43 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Who thinks that we are going to have some explosive growth when the cold cloud tops get fully over the low in the Yucatan? Sheer is dropping in that area it looks like it is next to nothing. I am a rookie but it sure looks like a bad situation could possibly be unfolding in the near future. Also does anyone Know the risk from a hurricane to to the oil that has been sunk to the bottom of the gulf?
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949. LargoFl 08:44 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
....ok where's that 20 inches of rain?
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950. SFLWeatherman 08:45 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Go to Tropics chat!!:)
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951. Hurricanes4life 08:45 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2012    
Quoting CybrTeddy:
Heh, Chris only lasted for one advisory package as a Hurricane. Oh well, the total is still 3-1-0, which is very impressive for June.


definitely was a hurricane at 5am, the NHC didn't want to up it then, but were forced there hand by windsat.
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