Extreme temperatures of 2011: 7 national all-time heat records; 1 cold record

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 04:14 PM GMT del 13 Gennaio 2012

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The year 2011 was the tenth warmest year on record for the globe, but the warmest year on record when a La Niña event was present (Ricky Rood has a discussion of this in his lastest post.) Seven nations and one territory broke all-time hottest temperature records. This is a far cry from 2010 (which tied for the warmest year on record), when twenty nations (plus one UK territory) set all-time hottest temperature records. One all-time coldest temperature record was set in 2011; this was the first time since 2009 one of these records was set. The all-time cold record occurred in Zambia, which ironically also set an all-time hottest temperature record in 2011. Here, then, are the most most notable extreme temperatures globally in 2011, courtesy of weather records researcher Maximiliano Herrera:

Hottest temperature in the world in 2011: 53.3°C (127.9°F) in Mitrabah, Kuwait, August 3
Coldest temperature in the world in 2011: -80.2°C (-112.4°F) at Dome Fuji, Antarctica, September 18
Hottest temperature in the Southern Hemisphere: 49.4°C (120.9°F) at Roebourne, Australia, on December 21
Coldest temperature in the Northern Hemisphere: -67.2°C (-89°F) at Summit, Greenland, March 18. This is also the coldest March temperature ever recorded in the Northern Hemisphere.
Hottest undisputed 24-hour minimum temperature in world history: A minimum temperature of 41.7°C (107°F) measured at Khasab Airport in Oman on June 27


Figure 1. Seven countries and one territory set all-time hottest temperature records in 2011, and one nation set an all-time coldest temperature record. Image credit: Ilissa Ocko, Princeton University.

New country hottest temperature records set in 2011
Iraq recorded its hottest temperature on record on August 3, 2011 in Tallil (Ali military airbase), when the mercury hit 53°C (127.4°F). The previous record was 52.3°C recorded at Diwanya FOB airbase a few days before.

Armenia recorded its hottest temperature on record on July 31 in Meghri, when the mercury hit 43.7°C (110.7°F). The previous record was 43.1°C in Meghri on July 17, 2005.

Iran recorded its hottest temperature in its history on July 28, 2011, when the mercury hit 53°C (127.4°F) at Dehloran. The previous previous record was set just one day earlier at Omidieh and Shoshtar, when the mercury hit 52.6°C (126.6°F). Older hotter temperatures have been measured in Iran using automated stations, but these temperatures have been found to be overestimated.

Kuwait recorded its hottest temperature on record on August 3, 2011, when the mercury hit 53.3°C (127.9°F) at Mitrabah. The previous record was 53.1°C in Sulaibiya on June 15, 2010. The Kuwait Meteorological Center confirmed the reading as authentic, though the temperature sensor had problems between 2009 and July 2010. Some temperatures as high as 53.5°C measured at the Kuwait City Airport during 2011 were in error. The 53.3°C (127.9°F) at Mitrabah thus represents:

1) The hottest temperature measured on Earth in 2011
2) New official national record for Kuwait
3) Second highest (undisputed) temperature ever recorded in Asia
4) Highest temperature ever recorded in an Arabic country
5) Third hottest location in the planet together with Lake Havasu City, AZ (after Death
Valley, CA and Moenjodaro, Pakistan)
6) A new world record for August

China broke its national heat record for both uninhabited and inhabited locations on July 14, 2011, when the temperature soared to 50.2°C (122.4°F) at a automatic station near Adyngkol Lake (just south of Turfan), and 49.4°C (120.9°F) at the town of Tuyoq. A higher reading of 50.7°C at Aydingkol Mirabilite on 23 July 1986 has not been verified as official by the Chinese.

Republic of the Congo set a new all-time extreme heat record on March 8, 2011, when the temperature hit 39.2°C (102.6°F) at M'Pouya. Congo's previous all-time hottest temperature was 39.0°C (102.2°F) at Impfondo on May 14, 2005.

Zambia set an all-time national heat record of 109.0°F (42.8°C) at Mfuwe, on October 26, 2011, breaking the previous national record of 108.1°F (42.3°C) also set at Mfuwe, on November 17, 2010. A no longer functioning station at Lusitu, Zambia measured a higher temperature in November 1990, but surrounding stations were all about 10°C cooler, so the Lusitu 1990 reading is considered unreliable.

The French Southern and Antarctic Lands Territory tied its all-time hottest temperature record when Europa Island recorded 35.6°C (96.1°F) on November 12, 2011. The previous record was set at Juan de Nova Island on March 31, 1997.

New country coldest temperature records set in 2011
For the first time since 2009, a new national extreme cold temperature record was set. Zambia set an all-time national cold record of -9°C (16°F) at Choma on June 27, 2011, breaking the previous national record of -8°C (18°F), set on July 10, 1898, at Nalisa Western Province.

Special mention:
Russia had its hottest temperature on record at a regular synoptic reporting staion on July 30, 2011, when the mercury hit 44.3°C (111.7°F) at Divnoe in Russia's Kalmykia Republic. Three hotter temperatures have been recorded at automated stations: 45.4°C in 2010 at a hydrological station at Utta, plus readings of 45°C at El'ton and 44.5°C at Verhjnky Baskunkak in August 1940.

Weather records researcher Maximiliano Herrera is the primary source of the weather records listed here and has worked tremendously hard to research them. He maintains a comprehensive list of extreme temperature records for every nation in the world on his website. If you reproduce this list of extremes, please cite Maximiliano Herrera as the primary source of the weather records.

Other posts looking back at the remarkable weather events of 2011
U.S. weather in 2011: unprecedented rains and wet/dry extremes
Top ten global weather events of 2011
2011: Year of the Tornado
Deadliest weather disaster of 2011: the East African drought
Tropical Storm Lee's flood in Binghamton: was global warming the final straw?
Wettest year on record in Philadelphia; 2011 sets record for wet/dry extremes in U.S.
Hurricane Irene: New York City dodges a potential storm surge mega-disaster


Figure 2. Portlight volunteers help distribute bottled water in the aftermath of Hurricane Irene in Raleigh, North Carolina.

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Have a great weekend everyone, and I'll be back Monday with a new post.

Jeff Masters

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Fires spread In Orange County


Posted: Jan 13, 2012 10:57 PM CST Updated: Jan 14, 2012 5:06 AM CST

Firefighters with the Orange County Emergency Services District Number One spent Friday battling five fires. The fires were first reported around 3:30 p.m. Friday.

Captain Jerry Aldridge says it took his men about half an hour to find the fires burning in a heavily wooded area between FM 1131 and Interstate 10, near the Rose City sand pits.

Firefighters say the fires burned 45 to 50 acres.

The Texas Forest Service assisted with bulldozers to cut a containment line around the fire.

No injuries were reported.
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Quoting bappit:

The satellite images of tropical weather are just a little something to distract the weak minded. LOL


Bain owns TWC..

remember that, Luke!










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Storm Levee May be Built in Orange County
By: Karen Rumery
Updated: January 13, 2012

Talks of a storm levee in Orange County are moving forward.
Much of the county suffered severe flooding during Hurricane Ike.
Authorities met Wednesday with an engineering firm working on a feasibility study.
The firm asked for suggestions from stakeholders.
The study is being paid for by a federal grant.
Also, the study will look at how water sent from Orange County will affect southwest Louisiana.
The study will include information on where a possible levee should be located and how high it should be.
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Quoting Skyepony:


Read the article..aspectre is just pretty much quoting the captain. One passenger account while dining... There was a terrible sound as something like 150' of the hull ripped open. The boat lurches to a halt & the captain comes on..Ladies & Gentlemen ..just an electrical fault...immediately the ship begins to list & the drinks fall off the table. It was most compared to the movie Titanic.


History repeats itself again.

"This can't be, this is the State of the Art", sadly again, the Crew isnt as Humans..we fail as a collective group again.

This is a High Novelty event as well.

So I note it as another example, of how things are differing as we expand our Knowledge faster,and faster...with technology and connectivity, morphing a No Brainer..into a Disaster.

One can almost here Titanic's Band..


A tribute to the heroic band on the Titanic, all of whom seem to have been forgotten in the tragedy.

Played today for the lost again..sadly.






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Lake Charles to Get $1.1 Billion Storm Levee
By: Karen Rumery
Updated: January 13, 2012

Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal announced on Thursday plans for a 50-year,
$50 billion coastal protection program.
That would include a $1.1 billion levee around Lake Charles.
The plan would be funded by increased oil and gas royalties, fines from the BP oil spill, and other sources.
There is a number of flood control projects planned in Cameron Parish as well.
The public can learn more about the plans on January 25 at the Lake Charles Civic Center.
There will be an open house starting at 1:00pm with a public hearing from 5:30pm to 7:30pm.
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188. Skyepony (Mod)
Quoting Seawall:


I'm not sure the families of the dead and missing from the Costa Concordia would find your remarks amusing.


Read the article..aspectre is just pretty much quoting the captain. One passenger account while dining... There was a terrible sound as something like 150' of the hull ripped open. The boat lurches to a halt & the captain comes on..Ladies & Gentlemen ..just an electrical fault...immediately the ship begins to list & the drinks fall off the table. It was most compared to the movie Titanic.
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As in all disaster's, at first we refuse to acknowledge it's very possibility, and sadly, by ..the time it is realized, it 's after Lives are lost.

But from the aftermath of the experience, one shall hear stories of great Humanity, and selflessness.

That also, is a given.

If one Cruise's, one must note the type of Barrell "inflatable Life raft's," and become familiar with their easy deployment, and take one's own action, when faced with a Life or Death scenario.

Sadly, in Cruise lines the crews are mostly underpaid, overworked, and not well trained and occupied with other things and not the primary mission in a Emergency.

Sticking to the plan






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Meteorologist Jeffrey Masters said, "The cause of this warm first half of winter is
the most extreme configuration of the jet stream ever recorded."

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Quoting aspectre:
"Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. As you may have surmised from the recent loud noises, we are experiencing some electrical problems."


I'm not sure the families of the dead and missing from the Costa Concordia would find your remarks amusing.
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"I was walking along a path with two friends – the sun was setting – suddenly the sky turned blood red – I paused, feeling exhausted, and leaned on the fence – there was blood and tongues of fire above the blue-black fjord and the city – my friends walked on, and I stood there trembling with anxiety – and I sensed an infinite scream passing through nature."
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Quoting Patrap:


Yeah, all those GPS 3D Co-ordinate grids, overlay's and In country Military Maps are all wrong.


LoL.


The satellite images of tropical weather are just a little something to distract the weak minded. LOL
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Quoting Xyrus2000:


How many times do we have to go over this?

Endlessly, apparently.
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Quoting PensacolaDoug:
How do you type this tripe with a straight face?

Oh the irony.
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180. Skyepony (Mod)
93S has shook out a little more dry air, strolling along the south edge of Madagascar.

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Quoting PensacolaDoug:
RE: 163


I didn't care for Bush expanding government either.
As for government charts and statistics...pfffft...


Yeah, all those GPS 3D Co-ordinate grids, overlay's and In country Military Maps are all wrong.


LoL.

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Costa Concordia Disaster: Italian Cruise Ship Runs Aground Off Tuscany Coast


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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Really? I'd go for Jason myself.

In all seriousness though, I wonder who will take over.


Might be Rappaport. In one of the Q&A for the NHC on him last year he stated he would consider it the next time the position was open.
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Quoting j2008:

Yea I've heard alot of people saying even if Irene was bad that most NEasterners lucked out this time, If she haddnt weakened like that we may be talking about a whole different subject, reconstruction. Hopefully people heed warnings and take things seriously.


Well, lets not forget about what happened here in Vermont. My town lost four bridges on state roads, two of which where total losses. The others had to be jacked up and retweaked. Eight houses are also total losses with countless others being flooded and miles of roads where washed away. So, Irene does have reconstruction in it's subject in Vermont. My town has about 900 people living here and this spread of damage happened in about every town in the state. I can't believe though only four people died. I did not brush off the situation and my friends where sick of me taking it up but, being a land locked state, most people said it was the media playing things up.
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Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:

Really? I'd go for Jason myself.

In all seriousness though, I wonder who will take over.
My guess is Lixion Avila............................................. . excerpt Wiki...From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Dr. Lixion Avila is a weather forecaster with the National Hurricane Center (NHC). He has been a senior hurricane specialist. there since 1987 and is the longest-tenured senior specialist.

He is the only Cuban American specialist on the staff and is bilingual in English and Spanish.

Avila generally forecasts with a quirky personal touch. Similar to his NHC counterpart Dr. James Franklin, Avila occasionally expresses his opinion or sense of humor, often in the discussion areas of advisories. For example:

When forecasting Tropical Storm Dolly in 2002, Avila said, "The bell just rang in the Tropical Atlantic, Hello Dolly."
For the last advisory of the long-lived Hurricane Kyle of 2002, he expressed that "I hope there will be no more surprises."
During 2005's record-breaking Hurricane Epsilon, he expressed his frustration at the hurricane's refusal to weaken despite repeated predictions that it would do so: "There are no clear reasons...and I am not going to make one up...to explain the recent strengthening of Epsilon and I am just describing the facts."
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Quoting Neapolitan:
Not sure if anyone else has mentioned this, but Bill Read, director of the National Hurricane Center since 2008, yesterday announced he's retiring effective June 1.

The search for a new director is on. (I nominate JFV.)

Really? I'd go for Jason myself.

In all seriousness though, I wonder who will take over.
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RE. post# 170..Xyrus..Tell,em what you really think.....excellent post..The blog has some color today...Looks like a large system
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man dont it feel good outside...40's with a nice breeze!
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Quoting Neapolitan:
Not sure if anyone else has mentioned this, but Bill Read, director of the National Hurricane Center since 2008, yesterday announced he's retiring effective June 1.

The search for a new director is on. (I nominate JFV.)
I dunno, I heard his little sister took his shower curtain.... What about Taz.?..
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Quoting nymore:
While it says over all temps have been increasing it also says this "The winter temps have not which is especially surprising given traditional GWT and the divergence in coupled models projection" In fact it says the actual data was "unforeseen" In other words this kind of cooling should not be happening. Try and spin it all you want but when Neo and Spbloom and Rookie don't argue the point you have to think there may be a problem. BTW I like how you paraphrased what they actually said (cherry picked)


How many times do we have to go over this? The models are not, and never were, the end all be all of global warming theory. They are a tool scientists use to provide guidance. Nothing more, nothing less. They are approximations that help guide research and show possible future scenarios of how a warming planet may affect us.

The models have never been, nor will ever be, simulations. We do not have enough data nor the computation power to do so. There are also areas that are not as well understood as others, and therefore the models can (and do) miss smaller scale phenomena. No one has ever disputed this.

"The winter temps have not which is especially surprising given traditional GWT and the divergence in coupled models projection" In fact it says the actual data was "unforeseen" In other words this kind of cooling should not be happening.

No, what they're talking about pretty clearly here is that the models were giving different answers, hence the divergence. Models not agreeing is not anything new, which again is why such runs usually consists of hundreds to thousands of runs (each with varied parameters) to try and get a general idea for the range of results. A clear divergence between models can indicate that a particular aspect is not being effectively captured in the model and suggests areas where models may be improved.

You're equating "unforeseen" with "everything is wrong", which is not correct. When it comes to any sort of modeling, unless you have perfect information (which is never the case) then things are going to happen in reality that are not "foreseen" by the model. For example, the model of Mercury's orbit showed an "unforseen" result that Newtonian mechanics could not explain. That did not mean that Newtonian mechanics was completely wrong and should be thrown out.

Try and spin it all you want but when Neo and Spbloom and Rookie don't argue the point you have to think there may be a problem.


Again, you're jumping to conclusions without adequate proof. They may not be responding for several reasons:

1. Other people have already responded to your comments in a way that doesn't require further comment.

2. They have you (and possibly me) on their ignore list so don't even see the discussion.

3. Have read the paper, understood it, and don't want to waste the time trying to correct your interpretations.

And so on.

BTW I like how you paraphrased what they actually said (cherry picked)


You were going on and on about reading the paper, and when I use there own conclusion against you, you accuse me of cherry picking? Let's go over the conclusions of the paper shall we?

In summary, large-scale cooling has occurred during boreal winter over much of the NH landmasses over the last two and a half decades (figure 1(c)).


This describing the phenomena of the warm arctic/cool continents winter pattern we've been seeing.

With much attention on the effects of global warming on the climate system, the recent severe winter weather has heightened global warming scepticism among the general public.


Here, they're talking about how the general populace's lack of understanding about climate science causes them to jump to incorrect conclusions in regards to global warming. Again, no surprises there.

Traditional radiative GHG theory and coupled climate models forced by increasing GHGs alone cannot account for this seasonal asymmetry.


Here they are stating that the models in their current form don't do a good job of capturing this phenomena, which is of course the whole point of the paper. In earlier sections of the paper, they show this by doing regional analysis of the NH landmasses vs. the temperature record for those landmasses. It shows that the models under-predicted the cooling across some areas. It should also be noted the it also under predicted the warming in the arctic regions as well. But the fact that the models have under-predicted arctic warming has already been the subject of several papers already.

Though we cannot conclude definitively that warming in the summer and autumn is forcing winter regional cooling, analysis of the most recent observational and modelling data supports links between strong regional cooling trends in the winter and warming trends in the prior seasons.


Here they're saying that there may be a link between the warmer summer-autumn seasons and cooler winters, but they can't make a solid statement to that effect yet. This link has been the source of speculation in the past, including on this blog. Their paper shows that it could possibly be more than just speculation.

A warmer, more moisture-laden Arctic atmosphere in the autumn contributes to an increase in Eurasian snow cover during that season. This change in snow cover dynamically forces negative AO conditions the following winter.

Here, they're stating the cause and effect relationship between a warmer than normal arctic and how it can drive regional cooling in the winter by altering the dominate weather patterns in the area. Again, nothing too surprising here. The incredible rate of warming in the arctic is already affecting the climate in the region. It shouldn't come as surprise that it is also affecting weather over a chunk of the NH.

We deduce that one main reason for models failing to capture the observed wintertime cooling is probably their poor representation of snow cover variability and the associated dynamical relationships with atmospheric circulation trends (Hardiman et al 2008, Jeong et al 2011).


As I noted in a previous post, here they talk about why the models don't do a good job capturing this phenomena. They even reference another paper about it. This is one of many aspects that can be improved when it comes to modelling.

Incorporation of the snow cover–AO relationship into seasonal forecasts is shown to greatly improve their abilities, and hence long-term climate solutions from coupled climate models may also benefit from improved snow–AO relationships.


And again, here they state that the models can be improved by providing better algorithms to represent this particular dynamic.

Not once, anywhere in that paper, do they ever state that the models are worthless. Not once do they state anywhere that AGW theory is wrong. As I stated before, this whole paper was about discovering a particular phenomena and how the models can be improved by incorporating better methods of representing it. The paper is discussing how the science can be improved.

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Quoting PensacolaDoug:
RE: 163


I didn't care for Bush expanding government either.
As for government charts and statistics...pfffft...
Great post Doug....Pfffft...:) :)
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Quoting Neapolitan:
You're right, Doug; actions do, indeed, speak louder than words...

Uh-oh

...and this chart says a lot.

Just as with climate science, wishing things were one way doesn't make it so; facts are facts. And the fact is that federal spending under Bush increased at a rate twice as fast as it has under Obama (and keep in mind that a huge portion of the money Obama has spent was to pay for both a stimulus package to stop the worst recession since the 1930s, as well as the two wars he inherited from Dubya).
Great post Nea..
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Not sure if anyone else has mentioned this, but Bill Read, director of the National Hurricane Center since 2008, yesterday announced he's retiring effective June 1.

The search for a new director is on. (I nominate JFV.)
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RE: 163


I didn't care for Bush expanding government either.
As for government charts and statistics...pfffft...
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Quoting calder:
To those who suggested topics, thanks. Skye, interesting video on the republican party - it's amazing that to gain the republican nomination you literally cannot agree with the vast majority of scientists.

Pretty frightening for the (second) most powerful country in the world...

Frightening for sure. But in their defense, they do need to appeal to these people. Oh, and these ones, too.

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Russians predict their spacecraft to come down off the coast of Chile.



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Quoting PensacolaDoug:
How do you type this tripe with a straight face?
Obama, shrink government? Actions speak louder than words.
You're right, Doug; actions do, indeed, speak louder than words...

Uh-oh

...and this chart says a lot.

Just as with climate science, wishing things were one way doesn't make it so; facts are facts. And the fact is that federal spending under Bush increased at a rate twice as fast as it has under Obama (and keep in mind that a huge portion of the money Obama has spent was to pay for both a stimulus package to stop the worst recession since the 1930s, as well as the two wars he inherited from Dubya).
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nobody realy answered me lol...

what effect does the PNA have on the CONUS?
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To those who suggested topics, thanks. Skye, interesting video on the republican party - it's amazing that to gain the republican nomination you literally cannot agree with the vast majority of scientists.

Pretty frightening for the (second) most powerful country in the world...
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How do you type this tripe with a straight face?




He doesn't.
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All-in-all, Obama's plan shrinks government even further. I realize that one side's knee-jerk reaction is to vilify anything the President does--but isn't a smaller government what everyone wants?

How do you type this tripe with a straight face?
Obama, shrink government? Actions speak louder than words.
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We've just had 1.7inches of rain in 30minutes here, The creek beside me is a raging torrent.
Pity the BOM put out a warning after the rain had stopped here.

Severe Weather Warning
for flash flooding
for people in the Metropolitan and Hunter forecast districts

Issued at 11:04 pm EDT on Saturday 14 January 2012.
Weather Situation

A trough and a deep, moist easterly airstream lies over central parts of the NSW coast.

Heavy showers and thunderstorms which may lead to localised flash flooding is forecast for the Metropolitan forecast district and coastal parts of the Hunter forecast district tonight and Sunday morning.

45 mm(1.77in) of rain was recorded at Merrylands West in the 30 minutes to 11pm.

The State Emergency Service advises that people should:

Don't drive, ride or walk through flood water.
Keep clear of creeks and storm drains.
If you are trapped by flash flooding, seek refuge in the highest available place and ring 000 if you need rescue.

For emergency help in floods and storms, ring your local SES Unit on 132 500.

The next warning will be issued by 5:00 am EDT Sunday.

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Good Morning, 36 In Zephyrhills fl this am. Going to a cozy high of 56 today and down to 32 with frost sunday morning. woo hoo
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Quoting GeoffreyWPBy:
Obama Wants to Move NOAA to the Interior Department.
Quoting trunkmankey:
That will be right up Neopolitan's way of thinking, Now the weather will be political, NOT fact.
No, the political part was putting NOAA in the Commerce Department in the first place; Nixon did that back in 1970 in a fit of pique after his Interior Secretary criticized the Vietnam War.

NOAA's mission is "...for better protection of life and property from natural hazards ... for a better understanding of the total environment ... [and] for exploration and development leading to the intelligent use of our marine resource...". That certainly seems like something better suited to the DOI--responsible for the management and conservation of most federal land and natural resources--than the DOC, which is charged with promoting economic growth.

All-in-all, Obama's plan shrinks government even further. I realize that one side's knee-jerk reaction is to vilify anything the President does--but isn't a smaller government what everyone wants?

(Edit: having said all that, it'll take some time to decide whether this is actually a good idea. But, as always, the first response isn't always the right response.)
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Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Obama Wants to Move NOAA to the Interior Department


That will be right up Neopolitan's way of thinking, Now the weather will be political, NOT fact.
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Quoting aspectre:
"Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. As you may have surmised from the recent loud noises, we are experiencing some electrical problems."

Updates to that story say that 8 deaths are being reported with that cruise ship sinking.
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27*F in Macon, Georgia this morning. The pear trees are going to be really confused now. They started budding out this week because it has been so warm here. Parts of my Centipede lawn also had started to turn green again.
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"Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. As you may have surmised from the recent loud noises, we are experiencing some electrical problems."
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2012 has 3 Friday the 13ths 13weeks apart.
Fortunately we don't hafta worry about a 4th what with the End of Times and all.
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Quoting skook:
%u201CThe Wet Season was now commencing in earnest. The first Rain came in the shape of a premonitory shower on October 6, after which the gathered clouds dispersed and we experienced intensely hot, dry weather. Screen thermometers at the Kambwire camp gave a temperature of 108, The Majority of the clinical thermometers graduated to 110, were found broken by the expansion of the mercury; they had been stored however in Congo cases which where painted in dark colours. On November 24 came a sudden and terrific thunderstorm, after which the rains were more and more regular until we looked for a downpour each afternoon, lasting as a rule from 2pm until sundown. So on with the exception of a fortnights cessation in the middle of January, until the end of April, when light showers betokened the beginning of the dry weather. The Rainfall in 1895-96 was particularly heavy, as shown by the excessive flooding of the Loangwa Tributaries and also by the greater rise in Lake Nyasa and the Shire River.%u201D

Bishop, Mrs Isabella. "The Geographical Journal - John Scott Keltie, Royal Geographical Society (Great Britain)., Royal Geographical Society (Great Britain), JSTOR (Organization)." Google Books. 1897. Web. 13 Jan. 2012. .




This little passage, is from the Geographical Journal, which has been published since 1831. I understand the record keeping isn't perfect, and there is some error. This particular volume was published in the last 1890s, and shows of extreme heat, and rainfall in present day Zambia.

Just trying to spread some of my own doom and gloom.....During my time travel adventures, I didn't run into Marty Mcfly which was a little disappointing.


Which, once again proves that those who don't remember periods of past extreme weather are doomed to state that all current extreme weather is unprecedented.

I'm still waiting for the peer-reviewed paper that states the month, day and year that the GHG concentrations overrode natural variations in controlling the climate.

For all we know, those extreme weather events of 1895-96 were also caused by man's unbridled usage of fossil fuels since the start of the industrial revolution.
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Once again,media sensationalism! We have had weather extremes throughout the history of man. Because more people are affected now(population increased!) we all think this something new going on!
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Quoting TomTaylor:
nice pic, bud, maybe I'll get one up of myself soon too, it'd be funny haha.

Forget avatars


Anonymity is all well and good, but I figured I'd come out of my shell. ;)
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Quoting KoritheMan:
Also, if anyone didn't notice, I finally have a picture up now. Whee!
nice pic, bud, maybe I'll get one up of myself soon too, it'd be funny haha.

Forget avatars
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I grow my own veggies and raise my own meat.
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Quoting Skyepony:
Radioactive snow in St Louis on Youtube..

Made me think to check the radiation network which updates every minute. I've never seen so many 40s..a few pushing 70. Seems somewhat variable at a glance.

Looks like Tepco is admitting radiation worked down to the underground water. Tests drawn on 1-1-12 confirm.


The are also partially admiting :

Hydrogen explosion of reactor 4 may have happened on 1/9/2012
Posted by Mochizuki on January 13th, 2012 · 5 Comments

Hydrogen explosion may have happened at reactor 4 and been concealed by the government ,said on the blog of Katayama Satsuki, a member of the House of Councilors of Liberal Democratic Party.

=================== Paranoid?

Really, I DON'T trust, even our local Enviromental agencies...
We all don't really know if we are eating radioactive, contaminated food...
Seems the only way for knowing that, will be to visit Ebay and buy a personal Geiger counter, to check food and water...


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Quoting Naga5000:


Thank you, but I know that a simple rant doesn't affect how another views the way something works. That seems to be the issue when arguing any kind of supposed controversy. Whether it is religion, politics, social issues, or climate change, the argument itself is irrelevant. No number of papers, journals, or graphs and charts will persuade either side to budge. Its a great side effect of the current anti-intellectualism that is occurring in society at the moment. Maybe that is more my point than anything else.
I think I'm starting to like you.

I've learned over the years that you simply can't persuade people if they are unwilling to learn. I used to be like that, but fortunately I was able to extricate myself from that snare.

That's not to say, of course, that I still don't fail sometimes. Being open-minded is difficult. But at least I try. How many other people can say the same thing?

Also, cognitive dissonance is fun to witness.
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