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Tropical Storm Don forms in the Gulf of Mexico
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 09:29 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2011 +8
Tropical Storm Don, the fourth tropical cyclone of the 2011 season, has formed in the Gulf of Mexico just north of the Yucatan Peninsula. Hurricane Hunters began investigating the system earlier this afternoon and quickly found a closed surface circulation. As the mission continued to gather data from what was thought to be a tropical depression at the time, winds of around 39 mph were found, as well as a 1001 mb central pressure, bringing the system up to tropical storm strength.


Figure 1. Satellite loop of Tropical Storm Don. This loop will stay current.

The official forecast for Don agrees with what most of the models have been suggesting over the past 24 hours. Don will make its way toward the northwest over the next 48 hours before making landfall somewhere between Brownsville and Galveston. The statistical models tend to suggest a more southerly track toward Brownsville, and the dynamical models are forecasting anything from Corpus Christi to Galveston. They all tend to agree landfall will occur late on the 29th (Friday night). Whether or not Don will reach hurricane status is still in question. The Hurricane Center's initial forecast is that Don will remain a tropical storm until landfall. Today some models were intensifying Don to a strong tropical storm, but none crossed the hurricane threshold. Now that we have data from aircraft reconnaissance, the models will be able to get a better handle on potential intensity. The runs that occur later tonight and early tomorrow will have much less uncertainty than those from today.


Figure 2. Model forecast tracks for Tropical Storm Don as of Wednesday afternoon.

I believe Jeff will be back tomorrow for an update.

Angela
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1501. TheDawnAwakening 12:14 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
I think with 53-54mph winds at flight level, I think Don is at 45mph winds now.
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1502. nrtiwlnvragn 12:15 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
Dropsonde


Level Wind Direction Wind Speed
1003mb (Surface) 155° (from the SSE) 32 knots (37 mph)
995mb 160° (from the SSE) 50 knots (58 mph)
991mb 160° (from the SSE) 53 knots (61 mph)
953mb 170° (from the S) 51 knots (59 mph)
941mb 165° (from the SSE) 45 knots (52 mph)
882mb 160° (from the SSE) 49 knots (56 mph)
843mb 155° (from the SSE) 53 knots (61 mph)
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1503. WeatherNerdPR 12:15 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
Quoting NICycloneChaser:
HH just found several very high surface winds, including one at 73knots (83.9mph). They have of course been marked as suspect, but I doubt Don is still a 40mph storm. I'd expect to go up to perhaps 50mph at the next advisory.

The high winds could have been from an embedded severe thunderstorm. Either that or Don is whack.
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1504. stormpetrol 12:16 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
Time: 12:01:00Z
Coordinates: 23.8167N 89.2W
Acft. Static Air Press: 843.3 mb (~ 24.90 inHg)
Acft. Geopotential Hgt: 1,545 meters (~ 5,069 feet)
Extrap. Sfc. Press: 1007.8 mb (~ 29.76 inHg)
D-value: -
Flt. Lvl. Wind (30s): From 160° at 44 knots (From the SSE at ~ 50.6 mph)
Air Temp: 17.1°C (~ 62.8°F)
Dew Pt: 4.7°C (~ 40.5°F)
Peak (10s) Flt. Lvl. Wind: 47 knots (~ 54.0 mph)
SFMR Peak (10s) Sfc. Wind: 38 knots (~ 43.7 mph)
SFMR Rain Rate: 4 mm/hr (~ 0.16 in/hr)
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1505. MrstormX 12:16 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
I suppose compact storms are difficult to forecast. Nothing about this system screams that it is strengthening to me (but apparently it is).
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1506. floridaboy14 12:16 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
Quoting hydrus:
The CMC still wants to develop that wave in the Atlantic...Even with all the dry air present..

bad thing is there is a trough trying to recurve it. i wish the CMC bought it into the SE coast because they are in some need of rain
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1507. GeoffreyWPB 12:17 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
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1508. Orcasystems 12:17 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
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1509. stormpetrol 12:17 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
Product: Air Force Temp Drop (Dropsonde) Message (UZNT13 KNHC)
Transmitted: 28th day of the month at 12:10Z
Aircraft: Air Force Aircraft (Last 3 digits of the tail number are 303)
Storm Number: 04
Storm Name: Don (flight in the North Atlantic basin)
Mission Number: 2
Observation Number: 04

Part A...

Date: Near the closest hour of 12Z on the 28th day of the month
Highest Mandatory Level For Which Wind Was Reported: 850mb
Coordinates: 23.7N 89.4W
Location: 436 miles (701 km) to the S (175°) from New Orleans, LA, USA.
Marsden Square: 081 (About)

Level Geo. Height Air Temp. Dew Point Wind Direction Wind Speed
1003mb (29.62 inHg) Sea Level (Surface) 26.8°C (80.2°F) 26.4°C (79.5°F) 155° (from the SSE) 32 knots (37 mph)
1000mb 27m (89 ft) 26.4°C (79.5°F) 25.9°C (78.6°F) 155° (from the SSE) 38 knots (44 mph)
925mb 716m (2,349 ft) 24.4°C (75.9°F) 21.8°C (71.2°F) 165° (from the SSE) 47 knots (54 mph)
850mb 1,458m (4,783 ft) 22.2°C (72.0°F) Approximately 11°C (52°F) 155° (from the SSE) 52 knots (60 mph)

Information About Radiosonde:
- Launch Time: 11:56Z
- About Sonde: A descending radiosonde tracked automatically by satellite navigation with no solar or infrared correction.

Remarks Section...

Splash Location: 23.72N 89.41W
Splash Time: 11:59Z

Release Location: 23.7N 89.4W
Release Time: 11:56:58Z

Splash Location: 23.72N 89.41W
Splash Time: 11:58:58Z

Mean Boundary Level Wind (mean wind in the lowest 500 geopotential meters of the sounding):
- Wind Direction: 165° (from the SSE)
- Wind Speed: 50 knots (58 mph)
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1510. MrstormX 12:17 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
Fist Visible image of the day:

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1511. Tazmanian 12:17 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
if DON be comes stronger then forcast a hurricane watch will be needed some time this PM for parts of TX
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1512. JrWeathermanFL 12:17 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
At 11:00 Don will be______
A.40 mph
B.45 mph
C.50 mph
D.55 mph
E.Higher
F.Lower
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1514. WxLogic 12:18 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
Also check the TEMP/TD profile:

Significant Temperature And Relative Humidity Levels...
Level Air Temperature Dew Point
1003mb (Surface) 26.8°C (80.2°F) 26.4°C (79.5°F)
970mb 25.8°C (78.4°F) 22.7°C (72.9°F)
909mb 24.0°C (75.2°F) 21.2°C (70.2°F)
887mb 24.2°C (75.6°F) Approximately 17°C (63°F)
861mb 23.0°C (73.4°F) Approximately 17°C (63°F)
850mb 22.2°C (72.0°F) Approximately 11°C (52°F)
843mb 21.8°C (71.2°F) Approximately 6°C (43°F)

It is pretty dry above 850MB... once they get another drop out then it could further validate the extend of the dry air in the environment Don is in.
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1515. WeatherNerdPR 12:18 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
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1516. NICycloneChaser 12:18 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
Quoting floridaboy14:

bad thing is there is a trough trying to recurve it. i wish the CMC bought it into the SE coast because they are in some need of rain


The SE certainly needs some rain, but be careful before wishing a long-track storm across the Atlantic towards the coast, could be more than a rain maker. A few models have suggested some development a few times, be interesting to see how it organises.
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1517. WeatherNerdPR 12:19 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
Quoting MrstormX:
Fist Visible image of the day:


You beat me to it!
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1518. MrstormX 12:19 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
Quoting P451:


It's what we can't see that the NHC is looking at thanks to observations. The inner core structure, winds at different levels. We can't see these things from satellite imagery which can be very misleading at times.



Yeah, plus it is out of radar range. It must be really tight in there.
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1519. NICycloneChaser 12:19 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
Quoting JrWeathermanFL:
At 11:00 Don will be______
A.40 mph
B.45 mph
C.50 mph
D.55 mph
E.Higher
F.Lower


B.
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1520. superweatherman 12:19 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
it about to blow...they are finding 55mph winds... at 11am advisory it going to be 60mph..
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1521. MrstormX 12:20 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
Quoting WeatherNerdPR:

You beat me to it!


Sorry :P
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1522. Jax82 12:20 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
Good Morning Don, don't drink too much coffee this morning, and try to take a nap this afernoon, save some rain for Texas, but hold the wind.
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1523. floridaboy14 12:20 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
Quoting NICycloneChaser:


The SE certainly needs some rain, but be careful before wishing a long-track storm across the Atlantic towards the coast, could be more than a rain maker. A few models have suggested some development a few times, be interesting to see how it organises.

trust me a cat 1 out of it wouldnt be bad although its a week and more away the ecmwf and cmc try to recurve it but funny how when don was in that EXACT same spot instead of recurving how most of the models showed, it made its way into the gulf towards texas.. interesting :)
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1524. aislinnpaps 12:20 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
Just curious, why is the storm south of Don heading south and into the Yukatan?
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1525. JrWeathermanFL 12:21 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
Quoting superweatherman:
it about to blow...they are finding 55mph winds... at 11am advisory it going to be 60mph..


Maybe 50mph is my guess.
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1526. WeatherNerdPR 12:21 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
Quoting MrstormX:


Sorry :P

No problem.
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1527. weathermanwannabe 12:22 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
Good Morning. Don does not look like much at the moment but that may change although it has not expanded it's moisture field since yesterday (it has actually shrunk a bit)and fighting the plume of dry air ahead of it. In the big picture scheme of things, we have another pending E-Pac system on the rise exiting the coast of South America and you can see most of the energy and convection in those longitudes more prevalent on the E-Pac side rather than in the vicinity of Don. Just curious to note that this has been a very interesting year with cyclogenisis issues in both basins at the same time on numerous ocassions.
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1528. CaicosRetiredSailor 12:22 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    


Don Dawn
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1529. MrstormX 12:23 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
Quoting superweatherman:
it about to blow...they are finding 55mph winds... at 11am advisory it going to be 60mph..


Yeah, already a big pop of convection is occurring. It would seem the Yucatan is becoming less of a problem.
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1530. hydrus 12:23 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
Quoting floridaboy14:

bad thing is there is a trough trying to recurve it. i wish the CMC bought it into the SE coast because they are in some need of rain
All the models have the Bermuda high weakening also. If that does not happen, the South Eastern U.S. could still be impacted. The GFS still takes this wave far south into the Caribbean..Here is 850 vort loop...Link
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1531. 10Speed 12:24 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
... and the price of crude will be disproportionately up before the day is done.
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1532. NICycloneChaser 12:24 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
Quoting aislinnpaps:
Just curious, why is the storm south of Don heading south and into the Yukatan?


Levi explained this pretty well in his tidbit yesterday. Basically the high pressure is pushing convection towards the west, but there's a weakness which is pulling the surface low in Don slightly north, so Don is getting a mix of those and drifting northwest, while the convection behind Don is moving west.
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1533. Tazmanian 12:24 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
today will be a fun day for DON
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1534. JrWeathermanFL 12:25 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
4 hurricanes in the E-PAC. None here.
4 TS in the Atlantic. No storms peaking at TS in the E-PAC
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1535. NICycloneChaser 12:26 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
First pressure reading at the centre from the HH is 1002mb, suggesting Don has weakened somewhat.
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1536. lordhuracan01 12:26 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
Quoting NICycloneChaser:


B.


C
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1538. Tazmanian 12:27 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
Quoting NICycloneChaser:
First pressure reading at the centre from the HH is 1002mb, suggesting Don has weakened somewhat.




DON is not weaking by any means they be doing other pass
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1539. aislinnpaps 12:27 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
Quoting NICycloneChaser:


Levi explained this pretty well in his tidbit yesterday. Basically the high pressure is pushing convection towards the west, but there's a weakness which is pulling the surface low in Don slightly north, so Don is getting a mix of those and drifting northwest, while the convection behind Don is moving west.


Thank you. I did watch Levi's tidbits, but no coffee for me this morning as I drive up to Arkansas. No coffee means my brain is working too hard to wake up to be able to work right. At least the Yukatan will only get a good storm and not a ts or worse. Hope it's not enough to cause more floods or slides for them.
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1540. MrstormX 12:28 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
Windspeeds are probably higher due to that thunderstorm blowup.
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1541. NICycloneChaser 12:29 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
Quoting Tazmanian:




DON is not weaking by any means they be doing other pass


He's not weakening now, looks like he's getting his act together, but I'd say he did weaken a little overnight. I'd expect them to find maybe 1001/1000mb at the next pass.
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1543. bohonkweatherman 12:29 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
Quoting Neapolitan:
Dubuque, Iowa, has received around 3.0" of rain since midnight, atop the nearly 7.5" it received yesterday. There's a whole lot of flooding going on there right now. The radar-based storm total precipitation estimate is very telling.
The flooded areas cannot catch a break and the drought areas cannot get one either. The size of Don is almost if he does not come right over you in Texas you most likely will not get much rain. That is why our chances are 20 percent here.
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1544. Chicklit 12:30 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
Nice little anticyclone forming over the TWave in Catl. This should help it break out of monsoon trough.

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1545. hydrus 12:30 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
CMC in 144 hours..
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1547. MrstormX 12:30 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
Quoting NICycloneChaser:


He's not weakening now, looks like he's getting his act together, but I'd say he did weaken a little overnight. I'd expect them to find maybe 1001/1000mb at the next pass.


I'd agree with that, he obviously had overnight troubles.
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1548. WeatherNerdPR 12:30 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
Quoting NICycloneChaser:


He's not weakening now, looks like he's getting his act together, but I'd say he did weaken a little overnight. I'd expect them to find maybe 1001/1000mb at the next pass.

I'm guessing you meant that its pressures are slightly higher, not that his winds are lower. We'll see what the next pass shows.
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1549. seflagamma 12:31 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
Hi Everyone,

Been lurking the past few days just no time to post.. will continue to check in and out as I can to see what is happenening.

Good Luck to Texas, hope they get the rain they really need.

Be good!

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1551. WxLogic 12:32 PM GMT del 28 Luglio 2011    
Quoting MrstormX:
Windspeeds are probably higher due to that thunderstorm blowup.


Correct... if you mix dry air with a TSTM(s) you get high WND speeds.

You can also see that Don is not uniform in its WND field from what I would expect to be a TS. Currently its W periphery severely lacks of any decent WND speed readings.
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