Dr. Jeff Masters' WunderBlog

Hurricane Beatriz slams into Mexico; heavy rains, tornadoes hit the Midwest
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 02:34 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011 +7
Hurricane Beatriz plowed into the Pacific coast of Mexico near La Fortuna this morning as a Category 1 hurricane with 90 mph winds, bringing very heavy rains and mudslides to a 200-mile stretch of coast. Acapulco reported 5.20" of rain yesterday, and one injury due to a falling free. Hurricane-force winds extend outwards 25 miles from the center of Beatriz, and these winds are likely to cause moderate damage along a 200-mile stretch of the Mexican coast today as the storm moves northwestwards towards Cabo Corrientes. However, the primary threat from the storm will be heavy rain, and the expected rains of 6 - 12" are likely to cause very dangerous flooding and mudslides today and Wednesday morning. Satellite loops reveal that Beatriz weakened significantly over the past few hours, once the eye moved over land. The mountainous terrain of coastal Mexico will continue to tear up the storm today, and Beatriz will likely be a weak tropical storm by the time it moves back out to sea on Wednesday.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of Hurricane Beatriz over the Pacific coast of Mexico taken at 9:30am EDT June 21, 2011. Image credit: NASA/GSFC.

Tornadoes, heavy rain slam the Midwest
Severe thunderstorms rumbled through a wide section of the Midwest yesterday, generating numerous tornadoes, baseball-sized hail, and heavy flooding rains. The storm also brought heavy snow to the mountains of Colorado above 9,500 feet, an unusual occurrence for so late in June. NOAA's Storm Prediction Center logged 43 preliminary tornado reports yesterday in Nebraska, Kansas, Iowa, Texas, and North Dakota. The tornadoes mostly avoided populated areas, and only sporadic damage was reported. Perhaps the most significant impact of the storm was the large area of 1 - 4 inches of rain it dropped on Nebraska and South Dakota. This rain will run off into the Missouri River, further aggravating the flooding that has breached two levees and overtopped two other levees in the past week. The large, slow-moving low pressure system responsible for the rains and severe weather will bring additional heavy rains of 1 - 3 inches over portions of the Missouri River watershed today, and will touch off a new round of severe weather today and Wednesday as the storm progresses slowly eastwards. However, the Storm Prediction Center is issuing only their "Slight Risk" forecast for severe weather for both days.


Figure 2. Radar reflectivity image of a supercell thunderstorm with a classic hook echo. The storm spawned a tornado that hit Elm Creek, Nebraska yesterday. The tornado ripped the roofs off of several houses and tore down power lines.

The Atlantic is quiet
The Atlantic is quiet, with no tropical cyclones predicted over the next seven days by the reliable computer models.

Jeff Masters
Rainbow Over Mt. Sopris (enghorn)
Rainbow Over Mt. Sopris
Categories: Tornado Hurricane
  Permalink | A A A
Reader Comments
Display: 0, 50, 100, 200 Sort: Newest First - Order Posted
Viewing: 401 - 451

Page: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18Blog Index

401. Rmadillo 11:12 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
AND THEY COME ONE AFTER ANOTHER ROARING ACROSS THE SEA TO BRING WITH THEM DEATH AND DESTRUCTION JUST YOU WAIT WATCH SEE

I do WAIT WATCH SEE Keeper. You almost sound like you're wishcasting there, did JFV steal your name?

When I'm up wityh everyone else here watching the hunter data scare the living bejeezus out of us, at 2am, I'll be a believer.
Member Since: Maggio 27, 2009 Posts: 0 Comments: 102
402. druseljic 11:14 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
Quoting clwstmchasr:


I was kind of asking that question myself.


The inclination is toward a danger in the continental US. I will admit I am just a newbie compared to Levi and the rest but if you look at all the factors, it does seem over the long term that the gulf might have a few surprises in store for the 2011 season.
Member Since: Agosto 13, 2007 Posts: 0 Comments: 649
403. CybrTeddy 11:17 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
Quoting Tazmanian:





ike was olny 110mph at land fall same thing for gustav


I'm well aware of that Taz. That's why I said in most regards. Ike had surge comparable to a low end Category 5.
Member Since: Luglio 8, 2005 Posts: 253 Comments: 20179
404. TropicalAnalystwx13 11:17 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
Quoting Chucktown:


You can't tell what is going to happen with the trough and ridge pattern when a storm approaches the coast. As unscientific as it sounds (and I'm a met), you have a 50/50 chance of getting hit, either you do or you don't. Just be prepared. I don't care where the Bermuda High is now or what the NAO is doing or what the pattern has been up to this point, you don't know what the synoptic setup will be in August and September. Its always timing.


You are right - We cannot tell what it is going to be like in terms of landfalls on the USA this early in the season. BUT, several factors point to an active landfall year, which makes me believe that there will indeed be several USA landfalls.
Member Since: Luglio 6, 2010 Posts: 89 Comments: 25136
405. SLU 11:18 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
Massive bomb on the 18z NOGAPS

Image and video hosting by TinyPic

Image and video hosting by TinyPic
Member Since: Luglio 13, 2006 Posts: 11 Comments: 2846
406. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 11:19 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
iam not wish casting stating a fact come late july early aug we will see just like last year they could all come together within 45 day period get 18 to 20 sytems all in a row
Member Since: Luglio 15, 2006 Posts: 143 Comments: 40370
407. Rmadillo 11:19 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


I'm well aware of that Taz. That's why I said in most regards. Ike had surge comparable to a low end Category 5.


Ike's surge damage was mostly due to it's size, and the area where the water piled into. The water had no where to go.

Land Ike on the east coast of Fla, there's have been little to no surge like what it had.

You're spray-painting apples and calling them oranges.
Member Since: Maggio 27, 2009 Posts: 0 Comments: 102
408. Rmadillo 11:21 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
iam not wish casting stating a fact come late july early aug we will see just like last year they could all come together within 45 day period get 18 to 20 sytems all in a row


we're in agreement on that, Keeper. But numerous conus landfalls? doubtful.
Member Since: Maggio 27, 2009 Posts: 0 Comments: 102
409. WeatherNerdPR 11:22 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
Quoting SLU:
Massive bomb on the 18z NOGAPS

Image and video hosting by TinyPic

Image and video hosting by TinyPic

Where did THAT come from?!
Member Since: Luglio 7, 2010 Posts: 0 Comments: 5464
410. druseljic 11:22 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
Quoting Rmadillo:


we're in agreement on that, Keeper. But numerous conus landfalls? doubtful.


But aren't seasonal predictions headed that way?
Member Since: Agosto 13, 2007 Posts: 0 Comments: 649
411. CybrTeddy 11:23 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
Quoting Rmadillo:


Ike's surge damage was mostly due to it's size, and the area where the water piled into. The water had no where to go.

Land Ike on the east coast of Fla, there's have been little to no surge like what it had.

You're spray-painting apples and calling them oranges.


I said in most regards Ike was a major hurricane, BESIDES Ike was a 110 mph hurricane at landfall, the threshold for a Category 3 is 111, are you honestly going to tell me that's going to make much of a difference with wind damage? I am well aware of why Ike's surge was so high, because of what you stated. It rated very high on the .I.K.E scale.
Member Since: Luglio 8, 2005 Posts: 253 Comments: 20179
412. Rmadillo 11:24 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
Quoting druseljic:


But aren't seasonal predictions headed that way?


Seasonal predictions? For high numbers, yeah. For landfalls? doubtful. Everyone got themselves into a tizzy over last year's setup, and look how that panned out.
Member Since: Maggio 27, 2009 Posts: 0 Comments: 102
414. Gearsts 11:24 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
Member Since: Agosto 2, 2010 Posts: 0 Comments: 1981
415. CybrTeddy 11:25 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
NOGAPS, CMC & GFS are now all onboard for development for a system next week. We need to wait for consistency.
Member Since: Luglio 8, 2005 Posts: 253 Comments: 20179
416. CybrTeddy 11:28 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
Quoting Rmadillo:


Seasonal predictions? For high numbers, yeah. For landfalls? doubtful. Everyone got themselves into a tizzy over last year's setup, and look how that panned out.


It is like was just stated, there's a 50/50 chance of landfalls. Last year's setup was based on timing, and we almost got walloped by a Category 4 just by a hundred miles or so, Earl. We're in a 5 year drought of major hurricanes hitting the United States, and 2 year drought for hurricanes actually striking the US too, we're going to run out of luck eventually. Neutral years favor multiple US landfalls, La Nina years like 2007 & 2010 don't have as many US landfalls as years like 2005 and 2008 do.
Member Since: Luglio 8, 2005 Posts: 253 Comments: 20179
417. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 11:28 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
Quoting SLU:
Massive bomb on the 18z NOGAPS

Image and video hosting by TinyPic

Image and video hosting by TinyPic
yeah surprize saw that we got to await at least a minumum of 3 runs to see if it continues its depiction
Member Since: Luglio 15, 2006 Posts: 143 Comments: 40370
418. Rmadillo 11:28 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
Ike had surge comparable to a low end Category 5.

And this is why the folks smarter than me, are constantly argueing for a better ranking/rating system for hurricanes. Yes, Cat 3 is considered a major. Ike was bad, no doubt about it. But it was no Andrew or Ivan, which I thought by your mention of Cat5, you were implying. Ike never got itself all wound up good. It was too big.
Member Since: Maggio 27, 2009 Posts: 0 Comments: 102
419. TropicalAnalystwx13 11:29 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
Quoting Rmadillo:


we're in agreement on that, Keeper. But numerous conus landfalls? doubtful.


I am not so sure. The 2008 season, one of our analogue years, had 6 tropical cyclone (TS and hurricane) landfalls. Another analogue year, 1999, had 5 tropical cyclone landfalls. The 1996 season, another analogue year, had 4 tropical cyclone landfalls. To top of this post, 1955, one of our analogue years, featured 5 tropical cyclone landfalls.

So in sum, there is consistency with multiple tropical cyclone landfalls on the USA for this season.
Member Since: Luglio 6, 2010 Posts: 89 Comments: 25136
420. Chucktown 11:30 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:


You are right - We cannot tell what it is going to be like in terms of landfalls on the USA this early in the season. BUT, several factors point to an active landfall year, which makes me believe that there will indeed be several USA landfalls.


You just contradicted yourself. There is no correlation between this years storms that form and the fact that we haven't had a landfalling hurricane here in the US since 2008. Hugo hit here in Charleston in 1989 and it'll be 22 years this September. Yes, another hurricane will hit Charleston some day, but it's a 50/50 chance every year. If we get hit this year, it doesn't lower the chance that we get hit in 2012.
Member Since: Agosto 27, 2006 Posts: 0 Comments: 1380
421. Rmadillo 11:31 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
Well cyber, no one wants to see a repeat of '05. Neutral conditions do render a more chaotic state of affairs. We learned a lot with Ike. Could easily be a whole lot of learning again this year, too.
Member Since: Maggio 27, 2009 Posts: 0 Comments: 102
422. TropicalAnalystwx13 11:32 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
Quoting Chucktown:


You just contradicted yourself. There is no correlation between this years storms that form and the fact that we haven't had a landfalling hurricane here in the US since 2008. Hugo hit here in Charleston in 1989 and it'll be 22 years this September. Yes, another hurricane will hit Charleston some day, but it's a 50/50 chance every year. If we get hit this year, it doesn't lower the chance that we get hit in 2012.


I didn't say anything about us not having a landfalling hurricane here in the USA since 2008.
Member Since: Luglio 6, 2010 Posts: 89 Comments: 25136
423. Rmadillo 11:33 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
Quoting Chucktown:


You just contradicted yourself. There is no correlation between this years storms that form and the fact that we haven't had a landfalling hurricane here in the US since 2008. Hugo hit here in Charleston in 1989 and it'll be 22 years this September. Yes, another hurricane will hit Charleston some day, but it's a 50/50 chance every year. If we get hit this year, it doesn't lower the chance that we get hit in 2012.


'nuff said.
Member Since: Maggio 27, 2009 Posts: 0 Comments: 102
424. CybrTeddy 11:33 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
Quoting Rmadillo:
Well cyber, no one wants to see a repeat of '05. Neutral conditions do render a more chaotic state of affairs. We learned a lot with Ike. Could easily be a whole lot of learning again this year, too.


I agree, no seasons are alike. And your correct in saying that we simply don't know what setup is going to be in place to have US landfalls.
Member Since: Luglio 8, 2005 Posts: 253 Comments: 20179
425. Tropicsweatherpr 11:35 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
Quoting CybrTeddy:
NOGAPS, CMC & GFS are now all onboard for development for a system next week. We need to wait for consistency.


The 00z model run package will be important to see if they continue to show development.
Member Since: Aprile 29, 2009 Posts: 63 Comments: 8094
426. plywoodstatenative 11:36 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
someone post the GFS run as that is one of the more reliable models please.
Member Since: novembre 15, 2005 Posts: 16 Comments: 4147
427. CybrTeddy 11:38 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
18z GFS 180 hours out, 01L or well organized invest in the BOC.


18z NOGAPS 180 hours, TS or Category 1 in the GOMEX. (take with a grain of salt)
Link

12z CMC, TS over the Yucatan at 144 hours.


18z GFS ensembles indicate a low in the SW BOC too.


Member Since: Luglio 8, 2005 Posts: 253 Comments: 20179
428. Chucktown 11:42 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
You can also say that fall has gotten off to much earlier start in the US the last two years, increasing the frequency and strength of troughs during the peak of the season. Could this be the reason why its been so quiet here since 2007. Don't know, but its possibility.
Member Since: Agosto 27, 2006 Posts: 0 Comments: 1380
429. Hurricanes101 11:42 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
Quoting CybrTeddy:
18z GFS 180 hours out, 01L or well organized invest in the BOC.


18z NOGAPS 180 hours, TS or Category 1 in the GOMEX. (take with a grain of salt)
Link

12z CMC, TS over the Yucatan at 144 hours.


18z GFS ensembles indicate a low in the SW BOC too.




Look at the lower pressures in the CATL on the GFS
Member Since: Marzo 10, 2010 Posts: 1 Comments: 6902
430. CybrTeddy 11:43 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
Quoting Hurricanes101:


Look at the low pressure in the CATL on the GFS


Looks cold core to me.
Member Since: Luglio 8, 2005 Posts: 253 Comments: 20179
431. Hurricanes101 11:44 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


Looks cold core to me.


I didnt mean up north, I meant by the ITCZ
Member Since: Marzo 10, 2010 Posts: 1 Comments: 6902
432. Patrap 11:46 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
.." das Poof "..

Member Since: Luglio 3, 2005 Posts: 370 Comments: 111244
433. plywoodstatenative 11:49 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
Quoting Patrap:
.." das Poof "..



Okay, could the energy that the models are hitting on be that pop of moisture that has weened itself off of Beatriz in the EPAC?
Member Since: novembre 15, 2005 Posts: 16 Comments: 4147
434. druseljic 11:49 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
Quoting Gearsts:


Wow, that shows some serious warming in the GOM!
Member Since: Agosto 13, 2007 Posts: 0 Comments: 649
435. Patrap 11:50 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
Member Since: Luglio 3, 2005 Posts: 370 Comments: 111244
436. CybrTeddy 11:53 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
One thing I've kinda noticed is the lack of trough split cyclones the last few years. I think the last time we had a named storm that developed from a trough instead of monsoonal or Cape Verde was Edouard in 2008, and TD5 in 2010 was also a trough split but didn't become a named system.
Member Since: Luglio 8, 2005 Posts: 253 Comments: 20179
437. plywoodstatenative 11:56 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
Teddy,

If Beatriz fell apart sooner than the models forecasted, thus the moisture that we are seeing doing the cross continent movement could be what they are forming in the Bay of Campeche. However it would be forming earlier than expected.
Member Since: novembre 15, 2005 Posts: 16 Comments: 4147
439. CybrTeddy 11:57 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
Quoting plywoodstatenative:
Teddy,

If Beatriz fell apart sooner than the models forecasted, thus the moisture that we are seeing doing the cross continent movement could be what they are forming in the Bay of Campeche. However it would be forming earlier than expected.


The models are all showing lower pressures (and higher amounts of precipitation) in the BOC the rest of the week however the system that develops into what becomes ''Arlene'' on the models appears to come from the Western Caribbean.
Member Since: Luglio 8, 2005 Posts: 253 Comments: 20179
440. blsealevel 11:58 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
Member Since: Agosto 23, 2008 Posts: 0 Comments: 1916
441. TropicalAnalystwx13 11:59 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2011    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


The models are all showing lower pressures (and higher amounts of precipitation) in the BOC the rest of the week however the system that develops into what becomes ''Arlene'' on the models appears to come from the Western Caribbean.


Which is noted by the 12Z CMC @ 144 hours.



Member Since: Luglio 6, 2010 Posts: 89 Comments: 25136
442. Torgen 12:00 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2011    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


The models are all showing lower pressures (and higher amounts of precipitation) in the BOC the rest of the week however the system that develops into what becomes ''Arlene'' on the models appears to come from the Western Caribbean.


The game is afoot! /sherlockholmes

(and about time, too.)
Member Since: Giugno 3, 2010 Posts: 0 Comments: 321
443. Cotillion 12:00 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2011    
Quoting CybrTeddy:
One thing I've kinda noticed is the lack of trough split cyclones the last few years. I think the last time we had a named storm that developed from a trough instead of monsoonal or Cape Verde was Edouard in 2008, and TD5 in 2010 was also a trough split but didn't become a named system.


Shary?

Danny had some interaction with an upper level trough during his creation (but was a tropical wave).

Grace in 2009 of course was none of those three, coming from an extratropical cyclone or some sort (Laura in 2008 was also in this category, I think).
Member Since: Agosto 23, 2008 Posts: 7 Comments: 5300
444. Patrap 12:00 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2011    
Aye,,break out the Triple Cannon
Member Since: Luglio 3, 2005 Posts: 370 Comments: 111244
445. TropicalAnalystwx13 12:01 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2011    
Quoting Cotillion:


Shary?

Danny had some interaction with an upper level trough during his creation (but was a tropical wave).

Grace in 2009 of course was none of those three, coming from an extratropical cyclone or some sort (Laura in 2008 was also in this category, I think).


Yes, Grace came from a large extratropical cyclone that came from a Cold Front. This is the same way that Tropical Storm Laura of 2008 formed also.
Member Since: Luglio 6, 2010 Posts: 89 Comments: 25136
446. Patrap 12:02 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2011    
Member Since: Luglio 3, 2005 Posts: 370 Comments: 111244
447. plywoodstatenative 12:02 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2011    
Correct, but if that moisture we are reading over Central America does start developing, would that be what the CMC is hitting on then? We have two different systems apparently, NOGAPS hitting on that bomb over the Gulf and the one that becomes Arlene as well.
Member Since: novembre 15, 2005 Posts: 16 Comments: 4147
448. Rmadillo 12:03 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2011    
Torgen- do your homework before buying the rain barrel. Placement and capture rate make the difference between success and a waste of money. Those things ain't cheap.
Member Since: Maggio 27, 2009 Posts: 0 Comments: 102
449. Torgen 12:03 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2011    
Quoting Patrap:


MAN, that is a heck of a lot of dry air.
Member Since: Giugno 3, 2010 Posts: 0 Comments: 321
450. plywoodstatenative 12:04 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2011    
Quoting Patrap:
Aye,,break out the Triple Cannon


Break out more than that Pat if NOGAPS is on tap with that bomb
Member Since: novembre 15, 2005 Posts: 16 Comments: 4147
451. Patrap 12:04 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2011    
Member Since: Luglio 3, 2005 Posts: 370 Comments: 111244

Viewing: 401 - 451

Page: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18Blog Index

New Comment
Community Standards Policy Comments will take a few seconds to appear.
Post Your Comments
Please sign in to post comments.
Not only will you be able to leave comments on this blog, but you'll also have the ability to upload and share your photos in our Wunder Photos section.
About JeffMasters
Jeff co-founded the Weather Underground in 1995 while working on his Ph.D. He flew with the NOAA Hurricane Hunters from 1986-1990.

Community Activity