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Early 2011 Atlantic Hurricane Season Forecasts
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 06:22 AM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011 +6
Hi everybody, this is Dr. Rob Carver filling in for Dr. Masters. 

A continuation of the pattern of much above-average Atlantic hurricane activity we've seen since 1995 is on tap for 2011, according to the latest seasonal forecast issued April 6 by Dr. Phil Klotzbach and Dr. Bill Gray of Colorado State University (CSU). They are calling for 16 named storms, 9 hurricanes, and 5 intense hurricanes. An average season has 10 named storms, 6 hurricanes, and 2 intense hurricanes. The new forecast is nearly identical to their forecast made in December, which called for 17 named storms, 9 hurricanes, and 5 intense hurricanes. Only six seasons since 1851 have had as many as 17 named storms; 19 seasons have had 9 or more hurricanes. The 2011 forecast calls for a much above-average chance of a major hurricane hitting the U.S., both along the East Coast (48% chance, 31% chance is average) and the Gulf Coast (47% chance, 30% chance is average). The Caribbean is forecast to have a 61% chance of seeing at least one major hurricane (42% is average.) Five years with similar pre-season November atmospheric and oceanic conditions were selected as "analogue" years that the 2011 hurricane season may resemble: 2008, 1999, 1996, 1955, and 2006.  The first four years listed all had neutral to La Niña SST's during hurricane season, while 2006 had El Niño SST's.  The average activity for these years was 12.6 named storms, 7.8 hurricanes, and 4.8 major hurricanes.

This year, the forecasters have introduced a new statistical model for their  April forecasts.  There are four components in this model:

1. Average sea-level pressure in March around the Azores in the subtropical Atlantic.

2. The average of January through March sea-surface temperatures (SST's) in the tropical Atlantic off the coast of Africa.

3. Average sea-level pressure in February and March for the southern tropical Pacific ocean west of South America.

4. Forecasts of September's SST in the tropical Pacific using a dynamical model from the European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts (ECMWF) 

The first two components are loosely linked together.  Statistical studies have shown that a weaker subtropical high near the Azores, combined with warmer SST's off the coast of Africa in March are associated with weak winds near the surface and aloft from August to October.  This decrease in wind speeds reduces wind shear which can disrupt forming storms.  These March conditions also are associated with warmer SST's in August to October, which is also favorable for more tropical storms.   For this forecast, the first component is strongly favorable for increased hurricane activity, while the second component is weakly negative.

The last two components represent the changes in sea-surface temperature and sea-level pressure that are the El Niño-Southern Oscillation (ENSO).  Briefly speaking,  El Niño conditions (warm sea-surface temperatures) are not favorable for Atlantic hurricanes.  For more info on ENSO and hurricanes, Jeff has this article.

Using the ECMWF model as guidance (see Figure 1), the CSU group believes that SST's in the tropical Pacific will be neutral (less than 0.5°C from normal).  This would have a small negative effect on hurricane activity.  However, the tropical Pacific sea-level pressure shows that the atmosphere looks like a La Niña event is still going on.  This is strongly favorable for Atlantic hurricane activity in the CSU group's model.

Figure 1. Forecasts of El Niño conditions by 20 computer models, made in March 2011. The ECMWF forecast used by the CSU group is represented by the dark orange square.  The forecasts for August-September-October (ASO) show that 5 models predict El Niño conditions, 7 predict neutral conditions, and 5 predict a weak to moderate La Niña. El Niño conditions are defined as occurring when sea surface temperatures in the Equatorial Pacific off the coast of South America ( the "Niño 3.4 region) rise to 0.5°C above average (top red line). La Niña conditions occur when SSTs in this region fall to 0.5°C below average. Image credit: Columbia University.

How accurate are the April forecasts? While the formulas used by CSU do well in making hindcasts--correctly modeling the behavior of past hurricane seasons--their April hurricane season forecasts have had no skill in predicting the future. This year's April forecast is using a new system and has not yet produced a verified forecast.  The scheme used in the past three years successfully predicted active hurricane seasons for 2008 and 2010, but failed to properly predict the relatively quiet 2009 hurricane season. A different formula was used prior to 2008, and the April forecasts using that formula showed no skill over a simple forecast using climatology. CSU maintains an Excel spreadsheet of their forecast errors ( expressed as a mathematical correlation coefficient, where positive means a skilled forecast, and negative means they did worse than climatology) for their their April forecasts. For now, these April forecasts should simply be viewed as an interesting research effort that has the potential to make skillful forecasts. The next CSU forecast, due by June 1, is the one worth paying attention to. Their early June forecasts have shown considerable skill over the years.


Figure 2.
Accuracy of long-range forecasts of Atlantic hurricane season activity performed by Phil Klotzbach and Bill Gray of Colorado State University (colored squares) and Tropical Storm Risk, Inc. (colored lines). The CSU team's April forecast skill is not plotted, but is less than zero. The skill is measured by the Mean Square Skill Score (MSSS), which looks at the error and squares it, then compares the percent improvement the forecast has over a climatological forecast of 10 named storms, 6 hurricanes, and 2 intense hurricanes. TS=Tropical Storms, H= Hurricanes, IH=Intense Hurricanes, ACE=Accumulated Cyclone Energy, NTC=Net Tropical Cyclone Activity. Image credit: TSR.

2011 Atlantic hurricane season forecast from Tropical Storm Risk, Inc.

The  British  private  forecasting  firm  Tropical Storm Risk, Inc.  (TSR),   issued  their  2011  Atlantic hurricane season forecast on April 5. They are also calling for  a  very  active  year: 14. 2 named storms, 7.5 hurricanes, and 3.6 intense hurricanes. We would round that to 14 named storms, 8 hurricanes, and 4 intense hurricanes.   This  compares to their forecast issued in December of 15.6 named storms, 8.4 hurricanes,   and intense hurricanes. TSR predicts a 55%  chance  of  an  above-average  hurricane season, 28% chance of a near-normal season, and only a 17%  chance  of  a  below normal season. TSR bases their April forecast on predictions  that  sea  surface temperatures this fall in the tropical  Atlantic  will  be  above  about  0.08°C above average, and trade  wind  speeds  will  be  about 0.2  m/s  slower  than average.  The decrease in the trade wind speeds is favorable for enhanced hurricane activity, while the forecast SST's are expected to be neutral for hurricane activity.

TSR puts their skill level right next to the forecast numbers: 13% skill above chance at forecasting the number of named storms, 11% skill for hurricanes, and 10% skill for intense hurricanes. That's not much skill, and really, we have to wait until the June 1 forecasts by CSU, NOAA, and TSR to get a forecast with reasonable skill.

Rob's critiques of the April forecasts
I have to note that Jeff and I wrote this article together.  He wrote the general framework before the forecasts were issued, while I wrote the details based on the actual forecasts.  So the preceding text is a joint production.  However, I have a few observations to make that are my responsibility alone.

First, I am disappointed that the CSU group has changed forecast models only after three seasonal forecasts.  This makes it very difficult to assess the skill of the current forecast using past performance.  This is very important for forecast users, and they do it everyday.  For example, I tend to discount a forecast of rain if it comes from a source that over-forecasts rain (The boy who cried wolf problem).

In the documentation that came with the April forecast, the CSU group argue that the hindcasts show the new forecast model has skill.  However, I think hindcasts are a poor substitute for real forecasts in understanding the skill of a statistical forecast model, like that of the CSU's group.  As Jeff noted, the previous forecast model did well with the hindcasts and yet had mixed results with the actual forecasts.  This does not give me confidence that the new forecast model will be superior to the previous model.

From a philosophical viewpoint, I am inherently cautious about statistical forecast models like the one used by the CSU group.  Essentially, they look at what happened in the past and use that to predict the future.  However, for making forecasts, we assume that the relationships in space and time between the predictors (such as the average March sea-level pressure around the Azores) and the predictands (Atlantic hurricane activity) does not change as we move forward in time.  In a world with climate change, that's a tricky assumption to make.

In any event, it is customary in the meteorological community to continue running older forecast guidance models after the introduction of newer models.  This allows forecasters and forecast users to leverage their knowledge of the forecast skill of the older model and gain insight into the forecast skill of the new model.  The CSU group really should have included the forecast from the previous statistical forecast system in this forecast.     

I am uneasy with some of the methodology choices made in implementing the forecast model.  Data for the first three predictors was obtained from the Climate Forecast System Reanalysis (CFSR), NOAA's newest and most advanced reanalysis product.  However, CFSR data for 2010 and 2011 has not been released yet, so the CSU group used NCEP/NCAR Reanalysis (NNR), NOAA's first-generation reanalysis, to fill in the gaps.  Due to differences in design, resolution, etc., CFSR and NNR can have different depictions of the state of the atmosphere.  So using NNR's March 2011 average SLP instead of CFSR's could alter the forecast in unexpected ways.  It would be interesting to see how CFSR's 2010-2011 data changes the results. 

In any event, we will have to wait and see what the Atlantic hurricane season of 2011 brings.
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251. aquak9 07:15 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
that was easy.
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252. caneswatch 07:15 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
Quoting Gearsts:
Sorry for asking!sheesh...


You will have mail in a second.
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253. IKE 07:15 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    

Quoting aquak9:
that was easy.
Painting your toenails?
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256. IKE 07:22 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
Here we go!
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258. hurricanejunky 07:23 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
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259. Jax82 07:24 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
Quoting jasonweatherman2010:
maybe 20 storms this year


great analysis and discussion on your prediction jasoncoolweatherman2011xmanxxxx2013 ;)
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262. TomTaylor 07:28 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
Quoting caneswatch:


Relax Taz, some don't know what happened.

I heard briefly what happened. Not the full details and I'm guessing that's why I don't understand why Taz is so offended by mentioning his name.

anyway

Quoting Patrap:
Big Fight Apr 15-18 Euro vs GFS ( I like Euro more)
By Joe Bastardi



"The Atmospheric Avenger"

That is all.

Ciao.,
Just watched a jb vid for the first time. never realized he was a macho muscle man. Really explains a lot to me, it coincides perfectly with some of the comments he makes regarding gw and weather in general.

But as far as reading models, he does seem to know what he's talking about
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263. hurricanejunky 07:28 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
Quoting RitaEvac:
Need to have the X in the center of the eye!



Can't do it...would mess up the rest of the layout.
I could move the X so as to expose the eye.
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265. aspectre 07:34 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
The magnitude6.5earthquake on the Isthmus of Tehuantepec was epicentered
54miles 135degrees(SE) from Coatzacoalcos-Minatitlan
97miles 44.9degrees(NE) from Juchitan de Zaragoza

VER is Veracruz, and CUN is Cancun
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266. caneswatch 07:34 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
Quoting FLweathergirliee:



Ohhhh ok haha thanks, I just saw the word "caster" and thought it had something to do with spell casting. I know that sounds stupid but online forums are full of people,mostly guys :) lol, that are so into world of war craft and other dumb games like that, so they talk about spells in real life.

juss sayinnn


Haha, I know what you mean. But here, caster comes from forecaster.

Doom-caster is someone that says a huge hurricane is going to hit somewhere, fish-caster is someone that says a storm is going out to sea, Florida-caster is someone that says a storm is going to Florida, etc. etc. Now you know the 411 on this.
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267. DEKRE 07:35 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
Quoting FLweathergirliee:



Ohhhh ok haha thanks, I just saw the word "caster" and thought it had something to do with spell casting. I know that sounds stupid but online forums are full of people,mostly guys :) lol, that are so into world of war craft and other dumb games like that, so they talk about spells in real life.

juss sayinnn


There are quite a few juveniles (possibly of all ages) on this blog. Just ignore them.

StormW is a meteorologist who was on this blog and got fed up with all their idiotic comments.
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268. IKE 07:39 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    

Quoting DEKRE:


There are quite a few juveniles (possibly of all ages) on this blog. Just ignore them.

StormW is a meteorologist who was on this blog and got fed up with all their idiotic comments.
Over his prediction of a pattern change...that never happened.
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269. WaterWitch11 07:40 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
Quoting belizeit:
I wonder why the earthquake that happened in japan this morning was not followed by more aftershocks


because usgs does not show all earthquakes that occur.
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271. IKE 07:43 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    

Quoting FLweathergirliee:



Ohhh ok, I see, what is still weird is all the talk about this StormW guy, is he like the star of the show and how can a guy be pimp online? That is lameee and doesn't make sense! Heck pimps of any kind are just yucky and stupid anyway lol :) they think they can just own girls, yeah right! Not all girls like pimps...
Hmmm....nah couldn't be JFV? Could it?

Nah.......................
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272. kwgirl 07:45 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
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273. Jedkins01 07:47 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
Currently 86 here and watching isolated sea breeze convection still popping! I sure hope this means an early start to the wet season will come!

It just might because everything this year in Central Florida seems to counteract everything about last year! And last year we had mostly a very lame wet season and it started late.

I'm thinking and hoping this could be a wild and interesting weather year in Florida. The extended period is above normal temps every day in the upper 80's to near 90 and high surface moisture with a subtropical ridge dominating. This is definitely May weather we are having heading into April.
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274. RitaEvac 07:47 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
My goodness JFV, you sure have blossomed?!
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275. IKE 07:48 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    

Quoting RitaEvac:
My goodness JFV, you sure have blossomed?!
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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276. aquak9 07:48 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
Quoting IKE:

Hmmm....nah couldn't be JFV? Could it?

Nah.......................


naahh...but it shure learned how to use the quote button real quick.

Looks like Rebecca Black to me.

Hey gurlfriend...what seat you gonna take?
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277. Neapolitan 07:50 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
Quoting belizeit:
I wonder why the earthquake that happened in japan this morning was not followed by more aftershocks

Because this morning's 7.1 quake was itself an aftershock of last month's 9.0 monster, and aftershocks seldom have their own aftershock sequences.
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279. MississippiWx 07:53 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
Quoting aquak9:


naahh...but it shure learned how to use the quote button real quick.

Looks like Rebecca Black to me.

Hey gurlfriend...what seat you gonna take?


Awesome comment. You got me rolling over here...

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280. RitaEvac 07:55 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
Quoting FLweathergirliee:
wow some of you are very mature...NOT, dang I hope not everyone in this blog are as rude as some of you... Foreal tho what are you guys a bunch of insecure 12 year olds? You talk bad about people on a blog? geeze, grow up! When you wanna start talking weather like I came here for, let me know, until then, keep the sillyness to yourselves


What part of Florida are you from and how's the weather there?
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281. MississippiWx 07:56 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
Quoting RitaEvac:


What part of Florida are you from and how's the weather there?


Who knows, but I bet she goes to FIU.
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283. MrMixon 08:00 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
and move on...
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284. MississippiWx 08:02 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
Btw, hey Ike! Ready for another year of this drama? I stepped away for the last 5 months and I'm re-energized. Just so you can get warmed up, you're such a downcaster. :-)
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285. TomTaylor 08:02 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
Quoting aquak9:


naahh...but it shure learned how to use the quote button real quick.

Looks like Rebecca Black to me.

Hey gurlfriend...what seat you gonna take?
sure learned how to upload a profile pic fast

i ain't even there yet
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286. MiamiHurricanes09 08:02 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
Quoting MississippiWx:


Who knows, but I bet she goes to FIU.
LOL!
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287. aquak9 08:03 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
When you wanna start talking weather like I came here for, let me know, until then, keep the sillyness to yourselves

Whoa!!

(snaps to attention)

Yes ma'am!!

(by the way, what kinda shoes are you wearing?)
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288. IKE 08:03 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    

Quoting TomTaylor:
sure learned how to upload a profile pic fast

i ain't even there yet
+1
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289. MississippiWx 08:05 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
LOL!


Good to see you on, Miami09. Hope life has been good to ya over the off-season!
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290. MiamiHurricanes09 08:08 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
Quoting MississippiWx:


Good to see you on, Miami09. Hope life has been good to ya over the off-season!
It has! Getting ready for another active season coming up. Hope everything's been going well with you.
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291. ILwthrfan 08:09 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
Oh come on whats wrong with World Warcraft?? Or Final Fantasy, or Quake, or Odyssey...lol I better stop this isn't even the start of my list.

Looks like we will be under the gun the Sunday. I hope this system can speed up by about 6-12 hrs, I would love to be chasing this weekend, given the possible conditions setting up.

Link

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292. TomTaylor 08:13 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
Quoting IKE:

1
guess I better get on that. I like your pic btw

Listening to "That's The Way" at the moment
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293. RitaEvac 08:15 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
WTI Crude Oil
$110.25
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294. hurricanejunky 08:17 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
Good Lord Ike, what year is the picture? They are SO young there...
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295. Skyepony (Mod) 08:19 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
CPC Monthly ENSO discussion is out today..


Synopsis: A transition to ENSO-neutral conditions is expected by June 2011.
La Niña
weakened for the third consecutive month, as reflected by increasing
surface and subsurface ocean temperatures across the equatorial Pacific
Ocean. All four Niño indices ranged between –0.3oC and –0.8oC at the end of March 2011 (Fig. 1). Subsurface oceanic heat content anomalies (average temperatures in the upper 300m of the ocean, Fig. 2)
became weakly positive in response to the continued eastward
progression of a strong oceanic Kelvin wave, which has begun to shoal in
the eastern Pacific (Fig. 3). However, the basin wide extent of negative SST anomalies remained considerable throughout the month (Fig. 4).
Also, La Niña impacts on the atmospheric circulation remained strong
over the tropical and subtropical Pacific. Convection remained enhanced
over much of Indonesia and suppressed over the western and central
equatorial Pacific (Fig. 5).
Also, anomalous low-level easterly and upper-level westerly winds have
persisted in this region. Collectively, these oceanic and atmospheric
anomalies reflect a weakening La Niña, but with ongoing global impacts.
Nearly all of
the ENSO models predict La Niña to continue weakening in the coming
months, and the majority of models indicate a return to ENSO-neutral by
May-June-July 2011 (three month average in the Niño-3.4 index between
–0.5oC and +0.5oC; Fig. 6).
While there is confidence in ENSO-neutral conditions by June 2011, the
forecasts for the late summer and beyond remain highly uncertain. At
this time, all of the multi-model forecasts (shown by the thick lines)
suggest ENSO-neutral conditions will persist from June through the rest
of the year. However, the spread of individual model forecasts and
overall model skill at these lead times leaves the door open for either
El Niño or La Niña conditions by the end of 2011.
La Niña will
continue to have global impacts even as the episode weakens through the
Northern Hemisphere spring. Expected La Niña impacts during April-June
2011 include suppressed convection over the west-central tropical
Pacific Ocean, and enhanced convection over Indonesia. Potential
impacts in the United States include an enhanced chance for
below-average precipitation across much of the South, while
above-average precipitation is favored for the northern Plains. An
increased chance of below-average temperatures is predicted across the
northern tier of the country (excluding New England). A higher
possibility of above-average temperatures is favored for much of the
southern half of the contiguous U.S. (see 3-month seasonal outlook released on March 17th, 2011).

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296. caneswatch 08:20 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
Quoting FLweathergirliee:



Ohhh ok, I see, what is still weird is all the talk about this StormW guy, is he like the star of the show and how can a guy be pimp online? That is lameee and doesn't make sense! Heck pimps of any kind are just yucky and stupid anyway lol :) they think they can just own girls, yeah right! Not all girls like pimps...


Let's just say he was a person on here LOL
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297. caneswatch 08:21 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
It has! Getting ready for another active season coming up. Hope everything's been going well with you.


Good to see everything's good with you Miami. Hope all remains well.
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298. IKE 08:21 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    

Quoting TomTaylor:
guess I better get on that. I like your pic btw

Listening to "That's The Way" at the moment
That's a great song.


................................................. .....................................


Quoting hurricanejunky:
Good Lord Ike, what year is the picture? They are SO young there...
Forty + years ago?
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299. Skyepony (Mod) 08:21 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
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300. caneswatch 08:23 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
Oh c'mon you guys, can't you be mature? It's not JFV, it's a girl who's just interested in weather. I was actually treated nice when I first got on here, now why don't you guys do the same?
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301. sunlinepr 08:25 PM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011    
On-line Magnitude Difference calculator

Link

A magnitude earthquake 9.1 is 100 times bigger than a 7.1 magnitude earthquake on a seismogram, but is 1000 times stronger (energy release).
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