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Early 2011 Atlantic Hurricane Season Forecasts
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 06:22 AM GMT del 07 Aprile 2011 +6
Hi everybody, this is Dr. Rob Carver filling in for Dr. Masters. 

A continuation of the pattern of much above-average Atlantic hurricane activity we've seen since 1995 is on tap for 2011, according to the latest seasonal forecast issued April 6 by Dr. Phil Klotzbach and Dr. Bill Gray of Colorado State University (CSU). They are calling for 16 named storms, 9 hurricanes, and 5 intense hurricanes. An average season has 10 named storms, 6 hurricanes, and 2 intense hurricanes. The new forecast is nearly identical to their forecast made in December, which called for 17 named storms, 9 hurricanes, and 5 intense hurricanes. Only six seasons since 1851 have had as many as 17 named storms; 19 seasons have had 9 or more hurricanes. The 2011 forecast calls for a much above-average chance of a major hurricane hitting the U.S., both along the East Coast (48% chance, 31% chance is average) and the Gulf Coast (47% chance, 30% chance is average). The Caribbean is forecast to have a 61% chance of seeing at least one major hurricane (42% is average.) Five years with similar pre-season November atmospheric and oceanic conditions were selected as "analogue" years that the 2011 hurricane season may resemble: 2008, 1999, 1996, 1955, and 2006.  The first four years listed all had neutral to La Niña SST's during hurricane season, while 2006 had El Niño SST's.  The average activity for these years was 12.6 named storms, 7.8 hurricanes, and 4.8 major hurricanes.

This year, the forecasters have introduced a new statistical model for their  April forecasts.  There are four components in this model:

1. Average sea-level pressure in March around the Azores in the subtropical Atlantic.

2. The average of January through March sea-surface temperatures (SST's) in the tropical Atlantic off the coast of Africa.

3. Average sea-level pressure in February and March for the southern tropical Pacific ocean west of South America.

4. Forecasts of September's SST in the tropical Pacific using a dynamical model from the European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts (ECMWF) 

The first two components are loosely linked together.  Statistical studies have shown that a weaker subtropical high near the Azores, combined with warmer SST's off the coast of Africa in March are associated with weak winds near the surface and aloft from August to October.  This decrease in wind speeds reduces wind shear which can disrupt forming storms.  These March conditions also are associated with warmer SST's in August to October, which is also favorable for more tropical storms.   For this forecast, the first component is strongly favorable for increased hurricane activity, while the second component is weakly negative.

The last two components represent the changes in sea-surface temperature and sea-level pressure that are the El Niño-Southern Oscillation (ENSO).  Briefly speaking,  El Niño conditions (warm sea-surface temperatures) are not favorable for Atlantic hurricanes.  For more info on ENSO and hurricanes, Jeff has this article.

Using the ECMWF model as guidance (see Figure 1), the CSU group believes that SST's in the tropical Pacific will be neutral (less than 0.5°C from normal).  This would have a small negative effect on hurricane activity.  However, the tropical Pacific sea-level pressure shows that the atmosphere looks like a La Niña event is still going on.  This is strongly favorable for Atlantic hurricane activity in the CSU group's model.

Figure 1. Forecasts of El Niño conditions by 20 computer models, made in March 2011. The ECMWF forecast used by the CSU group is represented by the dark orange square.  The forecasts for August-September-October (ASO) show that 5 models predict El Niño conditions, 7 predict neutral conditions, and 5 predict a weak to moderate La Niña. El Niño conditions are defined as occurring when sea surface temperatures in the Equatorial Pacific off the coast of South America ( the "Niño 3.4 region) rise to 0.5°C above average (top red line). La Niña conditions occur when SSTs in this region fall to 0.5°C below average. Image credit: Columbia University.

How accurate are the April forecasts? While the formulas used by CSU do well in making hindcasts--correctly modeling the behavior of past hurricane seasons--their April hurricane season forecasts have had no skill in predicting the future. This year's April forecast is using a new system and has not yet produced a verified forecast.  The scheme used in the past three years successfully predicted active hurricane seasons for 2008 and 2010, but failed to properly predict the relatively quiet 2009 hurricane season. A different formula was used prior to 2008, and the April forecasts using that formula showed no skill over a simple forecast using climatology. CSU maintains an Excel spreadsheet of their forecast errors ( expressed as a mathematical correlation coefficient, where positive means a skilled forecast, and negative means they did worse than climatology) for their their April forecasts. For now, these April forecasts should simply be viewed as an interesting research effort that has the potential to make skillful forecasts. The next CSU forecast, due by June 1, is the one worth paying attention to. Their early June forecasts have shown considerable skill over the years.


Figure 2.
Accuracy of long-range forecasts of Atlantic hurricane season activity performed by Phil Klotzbach and Bill Gray of Colorado State University (colored squares) and Tropical Storm Risk, Inc. (colored lines). The CSU team's April forecast skill is not plotted, but is less than zero. The skill is measured by the Mean Square Skill Score (MSSS), which looks at the error and squares it, then compares the percent improvement the forecast has over a climatological forecast of 10 named storms, 6 hurricanes, and 2 intense hurricanes. TS=Tropical Storms, H= Hurricanes, IH=Intense Hurricanes, ACE=Accumulated Cyclone Energy, NTC=Net Tropical Cyclone Activity. Image credit: TSR.

2011 Atlantic hurricane season forecast from Tropical Storm Risk, Inc.

The  British  private  forecasting  firm  Tropical Storm Risk, Inc.  (TSR),   issued  their  2011  Atlantic hurricane season forecast on April 5. They are also calling for  a  very  active  year: 14. 2 named storms, 7.5 hurricanes, and 3.6 intense hurricanes. We would round that to 14 named storms, 8 hurricanes, and 4 intense hurricanes.   This  compares to their forecast issued in December of 15.6 named storms, 8.4 hurricanes,   and intense hurricanes. TSR predicts a 55%  chance  of  an  above-average  hurricane season, 28% chance of a near-normal season, and only a 17%  chance  of  a  below normal season. TSR bases their April forecast on predictions  that  sea  surface temperatures this fall in the tropical  Atlantic  will  be  above  about  0.08°C above average, and trade  wind  speeds  will  be  about 0.2  m/s  slower  than average.  The decrease in the trade wind speeds is favorable for enhanced hurricane activity, while the forecast SST's are expected to be neutral for hurricane activity.

TSR puts their skill level right next to the forecast numbers: 13% skill above chance at forecasting the number of named storms, 11% skill for hurricanes, and 10% skill for intense hurricanes. That's not much skill, and really, we have to wait until the June 1 forecasts by CSU, NOAA, and TSR to get a forecast with reasonable skill.

Rob's critiques of the April forecasts
I have to note that Jeff and I wrote this article together.  He wrote the general framework before the forecasts were issued, while I wrote the details based on the actual forecasts.  So the preceding text is a joint production.  However, I have a few observations to make that are my responsibility alone.

First, I am disappointed that the CSU group has changed forecast models only after three seasonal forecasts.  This makes it very difficult to assess the skill of the current forecast using past performance.  This is very important for forecast users, and they do it everyday.  For example, I tend to discount a forecast of rain if it comes from a source that over-forecasts rain (The boy who cried wolf problem).

In the documentation that came with the April forecast, the CSU group argue that the hindcasts show the new forecast model has skill.  However, I think hindcasts are a poor substitute for real forecasts in understanding the skill of a statistical forecast model, like that of the CSU's group.  As Jeff noted, the previous forecast model did well with the hindcasts and yet had mixed results with the actual forecasts.  This does not give me confidence that the new forecast model will be superior to the previous model.

From a philosophical viewpoint, I am inherently cautious about statistical forecast models like the one used by the CSU group.  Essentially, they look at what happened in the past and use that to predict the future.  However, for making forecasts, we assume that the relationships in space and time between the predictors (such as the average March sea-level pressure around the Azores) and the predictands (Atlantic hurricane activity) does not change as we move forward in time.  In a world with climate change, that's a tricky assumption to make.

In any event, it is customary in the meteorological community to continue running older forecast guidance models after the introduction of newer models.  This allows forecasters and forecast users to leverage their knowledge of the forecast skill of the older model and gain insight into the forecast skill of the new model.  The CSU group really should have included the forecast from the previous statistical forecast system in this forecast.     

I am uneasy with some of the methodology choices made in implementing the forecast model.  Data for the first three predictors was obtained from the Climate Forecast System Reanalysis (CFSR), NOAA's newest and most advanced reanalysis product.  However, CFSR data for 2010 and 2011 has not been released yet, so the CSU group used NCEP/NCAR Reanalysis (NNR), NOAA's first-generation reanalysis, to fill in the gaps.  Due to differences in design, resolution, etc., CFSR and NNR can have different depictions of the state of the atmosphere.  So using NNR's March 2011 average SLP instead of CFSR's could alter the forecast in unexpected ways.  It would be interesting to see how CFSR's 2010-2011 data changes the results. 

In any event, we will have to wait and see what the Atlantic hurricane season of 2011 brings.
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1001. caribbeantracker01 03:31 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
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hey take a look in the eastern pacific dosent it look as if the first storm wants to form soon???
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1002. Orcasystems 03:33 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
Quoting cat5hurricane:

Not so fast there. You really believe there is no argument whatsoever that the planet is warming up? That is definitely NOT TRUE. Take a look at the past 6 months of the blog entries here and try coming back and telling me that there is ABSOLUTELY NO argument that the planet is warming up. Not too mention, I'm only talking about this blog, as I'm willing to suspect there are many more scientific based fronts (blogs, magazines, scientific journals {peer reviewed or not}) on which such disagreements are very prevalent.

Or, if you are referring to only certain peer groups you are willing to recognize based solely on preconceived biases on AWG to conjure such a blanket statement, then perhaps then you are correct, and thus I'll rest my case.

But until then, nice try there, bud.


OMG.. not again :(

Planet warming up... yes
Responsibility... yet to be determined.

Now go FOCUS on something else.
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1003. Neapolitan 03:36 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
Quoting cat5hurricane:

Not so fast there. You really believe there is no argument whatsoever that the planet is warming up? That is definitely NOT TRUE. Take a look at the past 6 months of the blog entries here and try coming back and telling me that there is ABSOLUTELY NO argument that the planet is warming up. Not too mention, I'm only talking about this blog, as I'm willing to suspect there are many more scientific based fronts (blogs, magazines, scientific journals {peer reviewed or not}) on which such disagreements are very prevalent.

Or, if you are referring to only certain peer groups you are willing to recognize based solely on preconceived biases on AWG to conjure such a blanket statement, then perhaps then you are correct, and thus I'll rest my case.

But until then, nice try there, bud.

Sorry, Cat5; when I said "there is no argument", I meant there is no credible scientific argument. None whatsoever. Of course there are ideological and profit-based arguments that say otherwise, but that's not what I had in mind.

My apologies for not making that more clear.
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1006. Orcasystems 03:42 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
Quoting cat5hurricane:

You got it, Orca. Down here at Augusta National and thought I'd bounce in on my iPhone to check the blog. It was going along well until I see these never-ending, blanket acedotal non-science arguments being thrown around about AWG. That, I take offense to.

But, I'm done here. Back to a beautiful sunny morning in SE Georgia among the Georgia pines about ready to settle in and hopefully watch Phil Michelson get a fourth green jacket.

Out till Monday >>


OK, now I am jealous.. I have been watching it on TV... my favourite show of the year. (even if Mike Weir played like an idiot)
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1007. Orcasystems 03:42 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
Complete Update





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1009. AussieStorm 03:49 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
Quoting cat5hurricane:

You got it, Orca. Down here at Augusta National and thought I'd bounce in on my iPhone to check the blog. It was going along well until I see these never-ending, blanket acedotal non-science arguments being thrown around about AWG. That, I take offense to.

But, I'm done here. Back to a beautiful sunny morning in SE Georgia among the Georgia pines about ready to settle in and hopefully watch Phil Michelson get a fourth green jacket.

Out till Monday >>

He's gotta beat Aussie Jason Day.
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1010. Tazmanian 03:50 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
sunday is looking like are 1st high risk day
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1011. washingtonian115 03:59 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
Oh god.A global warming debate.I thought we got rid of them.
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1014. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 04:00 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
Quoting Tazmanian:
sunday is looking like are 1st high risk day
THE EXIT
REGION OF THE JET WILL OVERSPREAD THE UPPER MS VALLEY SUNDAY
AFTERNOON CREATING STRONG DEEP LAYER SHEAR PROFILES VERY FAVORABLE
FOR SEVERE STORMS. THIS COMBINED WITH STRONG INSTABILITY WILL RESULT
IN A SIGNIFICANT POSSIBILITY FOR SUPERCELLS AND TORNADOES ACROSS THE
MODERATE RISK AREA. AN UPGRADE TO HIGH RISK APPEARS LIKELY ACROSS A
PORTION OF THE UPPER MS VALLEY IN LATER OUTLOOKS
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1016. Tazmanian 04:01 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
Quoting cat5hurricane:

I really think you're right, bud. Take a look at this:

SPC Day 3 Moderate Risk for Severe Thunderstorms: Just How Rare is it?


My experience with seeing moderate risks the days before are that it's a fair chance part of that enclosed area could be upgraded to a 'high' risk area the next day.

I usually am not one to hype, but this one bares watching.


yup i find it vary rare too find it mod risk on day 3
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1018. Neapolitan 04:06 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
Quoting washingtonian115:
Oh god.A global warming debate.I thought we got rid of them.

My guess is that global warming arguments will go away at roughly the same time that global warming itself goes away. Until then, well, what is, is.
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1019. Neapolitan 04:11 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
Quoting Orcasystems:


OMG.. not again :(

Planet warming up... yes
Responsibility... yet to be determined.

Now go FOCUS on something else.

No, it's been determined: increasing concentrations of CO2 are responsible for the warming, and mankind's contribution to that increase is somewhere between "most of it" and "all of it". Scientists are concerned about the ramifications of that, so it really is something to focus on--and, as much as I like both playing and watching golf, it's far more important than that game. Even an exciting Masters. Ya' know? ;-)
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1020. Tazmanian 04:19 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
THE EXIT
REGION OF THE JET WILL OVERSPREAD THE UPPER MS VALLEY SUNDAY
AFTERNOON CREATING STRONG DEEP LAYER SHEAR PROFILES VERY FAVORABLE
FOR SEVERE STORMS. THIS COMBINED WITH STRONG INSTABILITY WILL RESULT
IN A SIGNIFICANT POSSIBILITY FOR SUPERCELLS AND TORNADOES ACROSS THE
MODERATE RISK AREA. AN UPGRADE TO HIGH RISK APPEARS LIKELY ACROSS A
PORTION OF THE UPPER MS VALLEY IN LATER OUTLOOKS



ouch
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1021. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 04:19 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
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1022. Orcasystems 04:24 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
Quoting Neapolitan:

No, it's been determined: increasing concentrations of CO2 are responsible for the warming, and mankind's contribution to that increase is somewhere between "most of it" and "all of it". Scientists are concerned about the ramifications of that, so it really is something to focus on--and, as much as I like both playing and watching golf, it's far more important than that game. Even an exciting Masters. Ya' know? ;-)


I have asked you multiple times... for a number..any number.. even one per reviewed and verified by one of your esteemed sources... there isn't one?

You cannot keep coming on here and beating yours/ours/theirs head against the wall... when you cannot even prove a percentage?

Give me a proven verified number??

Do we contribute.. yes... are we 100% responsible... 50%... 25%.... tell me.

"most of it" and "all of it". is not a scientific anything.
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1023. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 04:24 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
Quoting Tazmanian:



ouch
next outlook for day 2 comes out in about 60 mins or so iam expecting an upgrade to high risk at that time
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1024. Orcasystems 04:25 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
Quoting Neapolitan:

My guess is that global warming arguments will go away at roughly the same time that global warming itself goes away. Until then, well, what is, is.


or you do.
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1025. Orcasystems 04:26 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:


You must be due for at least one last snowfall... I hope :)
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1026. Chicklit 04:27 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
Quoting washingtonian115:
Oh god.A global warming debate.I thought we got rid of them.

Dr. Masters is a pivotal and highly credible point man for the scientific view so you will see much more discussion here.
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1027. Tazmanian 04:29 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
next outlook for day 2 comes out in about 60 mins or so iam expecting an upgrade to high risk at that time


ok
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1028. Neapolitan 04:30 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
Quoting Orcasystems:


or you do.

Nah, my going away wouldn't end the disagreements between Big Energy and their political lackies on the one side, and climate scientists on the other. But I do appreciate your ad hominem, no matter how lame or predictable. ;-)
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1029. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 04:31 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
Quoting Orcasystems:


You must be due for at least one last snowfall... I hope :)
gonna get warm fish temps just above 20c tomorrow with a poss severe outbreak in afternoon then in high 60's mon with more severe poss. then mild the rest of the week with daytime temps at or above 60 with night temps high 40's or low 50's as for snow its done a slight chance of a cool down around the 20th of april for a couple of days so maybe we get a few flurries but i beleive any significant snows for the lakes are pretty well done till next winter
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1030. Orcasystems 04:33 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
gonna get warm fish temps just above 20c tomorrow with a poss severe outbreak in afternoon then in high 60's mon with more severe poss. then mild the rest of the week with daytime temps at or above 60 with night temps high 40's or low 50's as for snow its done a slight chance of a cool down around the 20th of april for a couple of days so maybe we get a few flurries but i beleive any significant snows for the lakes are pretty well done till next winter


Oh well.. I can hope :)
You ready to jump on the Canucks bandwagon yet?
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1031. Chicklit 04:35 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    


This may be old news to some of you:

Earthquake Information (Earthquake Information)
Issued at 22:01 JST 09 Apr 2011

Occurred at (JST) Latitude
(degree) Longitude
(degree) Depth Magnitude Region Name
21:58 JST 09 Apr 2011 30.0N 131.9E 10 km 5.7 Tanegashima Nanto-oki

This earthquake poses no tsunami risk.

From Japan Meteorology Agency Link
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1032. FirstCoastMan 04:37 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    



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1033. Chicklit 04:38 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
Hi Keeper,
We're 84-point-something now and will be in the 80s all week.
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1034. AussieStorm 04:40 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
Quoting Neapolitan:

My guess is that global warming arguments will go away at roughly the same time that global warming itself goes away. Until then, well, what is, is.

Australia produces 1.2% of the worlds pollution. As of July 1 2012 we will be taxed $35/tonne of CO2 a household produces. This includes businesses including steel producers like Bluescope Steel formally BHP steel. This will force these manufacturing companies out of Australia to more than likely China. This will cause the employment rate to go from it's current 5.5% to 10-15%. The introduction will also force the price of everything needed to live to go up. This new tax will cost the average household $1580 a year, if including the cost of the tax on everything else..... who knows.... $5000 extra a year.... ???

This all from a report from Prof. Ross Garnaut who is a Distinguished Professor of Economics at the Australian National University and both a Vice-Chancellor's Fellow and Professorial Fellow of Economics at The University of Melbourne. Not a climate scientist. feel free to google his name to find out which company boards he's on. I think his mind isn't on climate but on whats going to be streaming into his bank account, if you get what i mean.
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1035. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 04:42 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
Quoting Chicklit:
Hi Keeper,
We're 84-point-something now and will be in the 80s all week.


ya you should start to see the first of the sea breeze action this week coming up as well

spring rushes towards summer
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1036. Neapolitan 04:45 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
Quoting Orcasystems:


I have asked you multiple times... for a number..any number.. even one per reviewed and verified by one of your esteemed sources... there isn't one?

You cannot keep coming on here and beating yours/ours/theirs head against the wall... when you cannot even prove a percentage?

Give me a proven verified number??

Do we contribute.. yes... are we 100% responsible... 50%... 25%.... tell me.

"most of it" and "all of it". is not a scientific anything.

And I've answered you many, many times; perhaps you've missed that. The best science says that the rise in atmospheric CO2 over the past 200 years has been caused entirely by the burning of fossil fuels coupled with deforestation, and--more and more frequently--the feedback mechanisms (permafrost thawing, etc.) initiated by them. So if you really feel that you somehow need a rock-solid number, I'll give you one: how about 100%?

But just out of curiosity, how high would that percentage have to be to motivate you to action?
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1037. washingtonian115 04:55 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
Quoting FirstCoastMan:



Are you sure that for this...Oh I see it.Ah ish.If atmospheric conditions are good then.That only means trouble.
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1038. Chicklit 04:58 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
We say it every year, but this year feels kinda ominous due to SSTs and how the Nino-to-Neutral is stacking up. Should be interesting.
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1039. Orcasystems 05:02 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
Quoting Neapolitan:

And I've answered you many, many times; perhaps you've missed that. The best science says that the rise in atmospheric CO2 over the past 200 years has been caused entirely by the burning of fossil fuels coupled with deforestation, and--more and more frequently--the feedback mechanisms (permafrost thawing, etc.) initiated by them. So if you really feel that you somehow need a rock-solid number, I'll give you one: how about 100%?

But just out of curiosity, how high would that percentage have to be to motivate you to action?


So your saying its 100% man made... yet the earth has been warmer many times in cycles.

I actually do my part when ever possible.. including 2 hybrid vehicles (yes, even my truck). How about you?

I just don't believe its all man made... we are part of the equation... but I don't believe we are the whole equation.

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1040. emcf30 05:36 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
Friday 4/8/11
For several days, we%u2019ve been talking about a weekend storm system that has every indication of becoming a classic example of an early spring tornado outbreak.
The storm system we%u2019ve been talking about enters the weather picture Saturday Afternoon. You can see a large slight risk area now posted. A warm front is expected to swing through the state of Iowa as the surface low pressure system remains just to the west. This will be the focus of severe weather during the late afternoon, evening and overnight hours across the state. All modes of severe weather will be possible.

day2probotlk_0600_anyAs you can see the greatest risk area lies in portions of western and northern Iowa. Besides the possibility of a few tornadoes, the primary threat on Saturday appears to be very large hail, especially in southwest portions of Iowa. These thunderstorms may continue across parts of the state well into the night and into Sunday morning.

This is where the forecast becomes especially troublesome, as a near-perfect set up takes place right on top of Iowa. There are two distinct features that could produce a serious and widespread damaging event across the state.

As we start the day on Sunday, the warm front should be north of Iowa, leading to very warm and humid conditions across the state, especially for this time of year. A dry line is expected to develop ahead of the cold front as the surface low begins tracking through the Upper Midwest. This is where it is expected widespread and rapid development of thunderstorms that could take just a matter of minutes to explode into supercells.

day3otlk_0730 Overall, the atmospheric setup is nearly perfect for a major outbreak. Low level shear, available energy and a whole host of other factors are giving forecasters and storm chasers major cause for concern. As a result,the Storm Prediction Center has already posted a moderate risk for portions of Iowa on Sunday. I would not be surprised to see some areas upgraded to a high risk for severe weather by Sunday. With all modes of severe weather possible, and a good chance of many tornadoes, including some strong twisters that stay on the ground for a long time, it%u2019s safe to say at this point that Sunday has the potential to go down as a historic outbreak of severe weather.
It%u2019s expected the storms could travel at a rate of between 50 and 60mph. This will also greatly enhance the danger of any tornadoes that form because they too will be fast moving and limit the amount of warnings areas at risk might see. A set up like this does not happen very often in Iowa and with it being so early in the severe weather season, many could be complacent about taking the appropriate precautions.

day3prob_0730 These are some of the highest risk probabilities you can see, especially 3 days away from a severe weather event. This is a storm that you will hear a lot about on television as it approaches. We storm chasers love a classic set up that provides us a chance to get up close and personal with a tornado, but this is different. This is the type of setup that could have disastrous consequences for any town, structure or person caught in its path.
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1041. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 05:39 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
mod risk remains




1233 PM CDT SAT APR 09 2011

VALID 101200Z - 111200Z

...THERE IS A MDT RISK OF SVR TSTMS ACROSS PARTS OF FAR SOUTHEAST
MINNESOTA...EASTERN IOWA...NORTHERN ILLINOIS AND THE SOUTHERN
TWO-THIRDS OF WISCONSIN...

...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS FROM THE UPPER MS VALLEY/UPPER
GREAT LAKES REGION SWWD INTO NERN TX...

...SYNOPSIS...
POWERFUL UPPER TROUGH IS PROGGED TO CONTINUE EWD ACROSS THE CENTRAL
THIRD OF THE CONUS THIS PERIOD...ACCOMPANIED BY A VERY STRONG SWLY
JET ON THE ERN FRINGE.

THIS TROUGH WILL SUPPORT SURFACE LOW DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE UPPER
MIDWEST...WITH A TRAILING COLD FRONT FORECAST TO SHIFT EWD ACROSS
THE PLAINS. THIS FRONT WILL BE A FOCUS FOR A WIDESPREAD AND
POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT SEVERE WEATHER EVENT THIS PERIOD.

...UPPER MIDWEST/UPPER MS VALLEY/WRN UPPER GREAT LAKES REGION...
POTENTIALLY-SIGNIFICANT SEVERE WEATHER EVENT -- INCLUDING THE
POTENTIAL FOR A FEW STRONG TORNADOES -- APPEARS TO BE UNFOLDING FOR
SUNDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING.

AS THE LARGE UPPER TROUGH APPROACHES...AIRMASS WILL CONTINUE
MOISTENING/DESTABILIZING WITH TIME. THE BOUNDARY LAYER WILL LIKELY
REMAIN CAPPED THROUGH MID AFTERNOON...BUT FORCING ALONG THE
ADVANCING COLD FRONT -- AND INVOF THE SURFACE LOW/WRM FRONT ACROSS
SERN MN/ERN IA/SRN WI -- SHOULD ALLOW STORMS TO INITIATE BY 20-22Z.
STRONG LOW-LEVEL FLOW BENEATH 80-PLUS KT MID-LEVEL SWLYS WILL
PROVIDE SHEAR VERY SUPPORTIVE OF SUPERCELLS -- AND THUS STORMS WILL
RAPIDLY BECOME SEVERE AS THEY INCREASE AND SPREAD QUICKLY EWD ACROSS
THE UPPER MS VALLEY AREA...FUELED BY MODERATE INSTABILITY. GREATEST
TORNADO THREAT WILL LIKELY EXIST ACROSS ERN IA AND INTO SRN WI/NRN
IL...NEAR THE SURFACE LOW AND WARM FRONT WHERE LOW-LEVEL SHEAR WILL
BE MAXIMIZED. VERY LARGE HAIL AND DAMAGING WINDS ARE ALSO EXPECTED
-- WITH THE DAMAGING WIND THREAT EXPECTED TO INCREASE WITH TIME AS
STORMS LIKELY BECOME MORE LINEARLY ORGANIZED WITH TIME.

MORE ISOLATED STORMS WILL LIKELY DEVELOP SWD ALONG THE FRONT FROM MO
INTO NERN TX. WHILE TORNADO THREAT WILL NOT BE AS GREAT...LARGE
HAIL AND DAMAGING WINDS WILL BE POSSIBLE.

STORMS WILL SHIFT EWD OVERNIGHT -- BUT SHOULD WEAKEN WITH TIME WITH
THE LOSS OF HEATING. SEVERE POTENTIAL IS MOST LIKELY TO LINGER
ACROSS THE UPPER GREAT LAKES/UPPER MIDWEST...WHERE STRONGEST FORCING
-- AND THUS GREATEST CAPE/SHEAR COMBINATION -- IS FORECAST.

...LOWER GREAT LAKES REGION...
WHILE WEAKER INSTABILITY IS EXPECTED ACROSS WRN NY/WRN
PA...AFTERNOON CONVECTION CRESTING THE UPPER RIDGE AND CROSSING SRN
ONTARIO MAY CROSS THE LAKES AND BRING A LIMITED THREAT FOR DAMAGING
WINDS AND MARGINAL HAIL TO THIS REGION. ANY THREAT SHOULD DIMINISH
DURING THE EVENING WITH THE ONSET OF DIURNAL COOLING.
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1042. JRRP 05:43 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
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1043. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 05:46 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
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1044. Chicklit 05:46 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
Doing home work (public budgeting...sigh), and so must break for weather rather frequently in order to stay awake:

Hazardous Weather Outlook
HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DES MOINES IA
1204 PM CDT SAT APR 9 2011

IAZ004>007-015>017-023>028-033>039-044>048-057>05 9-101715-
EMMET-KOSSUTH-WINNEBAGO-WORTH-PALO ALTO-HANCOCK-CERRO GORDO-POCAHONTAS-HUMBOLDT-WRIGHT-FRANKLIN-BUTLER-B REMER-SAC-CALHOUN-WEBSTER-HAMILTON-HARDIN-GRUNDY-B LACK HAWK-CRAWFORD-CARROLL-GREENE-
BOONE-STORY-AUDUBON-GUTHRIE-DALLAS-
1204 PM CDT SAT APR 9 2011

THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR PORTIONS OF CENTRAL IOWA.

.DAY ONE...THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT

NUMEROUS THUNDERSTORMS ARE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP BY THIS EVENING ACROSS NORTHERN IOWA. A MODERATE RISK OF SEVERE WEATHER EXISTS IN NORTHERN AND CENTRAL IOWA DURING THIS TIME. THE POTENTIAL FOR VERY LARGE HAIL... DAMAGING WINDS AND TORNADOES WILL EXIST FOR THE AREA... ESPECIALLY THIS EVENING.

RIVER FLOOD WARNINGS ARE ALSO IN EFFECT FOR PORTIONS OF THE UPPER
DES MOINES RIVER VALLEY. PLEASE REFER TO THE NATIONAL WEATHER
SERVICE WEBSITE AT WEATHER.GOV/DESMOINES FOR FURTHER DETAILS.


.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...SUNDAY THROUGH FRIDAY

LARGE HAIL...DAMAGING WINDS AND A FEW TORNADOES WILL BE POSSIBLE ON SUNDAY AFTERNOON...ESPECIALLY ALONG AND EAST OF INTERSTATE 35.THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR HIGH WINDS SUNDAY AFTERNOON FOLLOWING THE PASSAGE OF THE DRY LINE DURING THE MID TO LATE AFTERNOON HOURS. AT THIS TIME...THE POTENTIAL IS CONDITIONAL...BUT IF IT OCCURS WINDS MAY GUST WELL ABOVE 50 MPH FOR A PERIOD OF TIME FROM LATE AFTERNOON THROUGH EARLY EVENING.
STRONG AND GUSTY WINDS ARE LIKELY MONDAY WITH GUSTS IN EXCESS OF 45 MPH.

.SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT...

AN EMERGENCY MANAGERS WEBINAR IS SCHEDULED FOR 230 PM TODAY...TO DISCUSS THE SEVERE WEATHER POTENTIAL FOR THIS EVENING THROUGH SUNDAY.

SPOTTER ACTIVATION IS EXPECTED THIS EVENING AND AGAIN ON SUNDAY AFTERNOON.

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1045. Skyepony (Mod) 05:52 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
Quoting Tropicsweatherpr:


That cold pool is very big.




That cool pool is a shallow remnant, with much heat lurking below, a spit on the surface left of it's former huge deep, cool pool.


Aussie~ NOAA who's pretty conservative with the enso forecasts put out the monthly 2 days ago.

Synopsis: A transition to ENSO-neutral conditions is expected by June 2011.

Though I think I as usual was looking much farther beyond the next 2-3 months. Check the T-depth anomaly huge change there the last 30 days.


Orca~ The exact % would be available if we could get a satellite up there to measure how much aerosol emissions are forcing things in the direction of cooler. These things are chemically proven. They've got high, long flight planes that see the effects in small picture in time moments. But the big pic with the exact numbers eludes us as long as our atmosatellites keep landing in the ocean. There are some published estimations (a range of % each contributes) out there if you want to look. There are several factors both human & not that are pushing climate in both directions..Some more straight forward than other. If I remember right~ Black soot from burning coal has a specific (maybe 5ºs) of forcing toward warm. & then there is the details..of the devil like the ocean is taking up a huge amount of that warming. Many people don't get that the forcing from that radiates back to us at some point. To force it with CO2 then call the heat it radiates when it's saturated natural wouldn't be correct to blame wholly on natural processes. To sit & wait to act when we have the math all worked out on the big pic is ridiculous. We've known for decades exactly how much heat certain molecules hold & for how long, thanks to Chemistry. We know we are putting tons up there every second of these molecules & that the permafrost that is helping to melt releases more & of a longer lasting variety.
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1046. Tazmanian 05:52 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
ah nuts no high risk
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1047. emcf30 05:57 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    


How would you like to be hit by this. 7" diameter, 13.75" circumference and weighed just under 1lb fell during Nebraska storm in 2003. I believe this is still the record hailstone for the US tho not sure.
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1049. emcf30 05:59 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
Quoting Tazmanian:
ah nuts no high risk

My bet it will be tommorrow
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1050. Thundercloud01221991 06:08 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
Tornado watch has been issued pretty high probs too... I am in that watch
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1051. Chicklit 06:09 PM GMT del 09 Aprile 2011    
1252 PM EDT SAT APR 9 2011

...SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH 112 IN EFFECT UNTIL 7 PM EDT THIS
EVENING...

THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR PORTIONS OF EASTERN KENTUCKY.

.DAY ONE...THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT.

THERE IS A CHANCE FOR THUNDERSTORMS TODAY AND TONIGHT. SOME STORMS THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING COULD BECOME SEVERE WITH DAMAGING WINDS AND LARGE HAIL THE PRIMARY THREAT. AN ISOLATED TORNADO IS ALSO POSSIBLE. THE THREAT OF FLASH FLOODING IS ALSO POSSIBLE TODAY WHERE STORMS REPEATEDLY MOVE OVER THE SAME AREA.

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...SUNDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

THUNDERSTORMS ARE ALSO POSSIBLE SATURDAY NIGHT AND SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY NIGHT. THERE IS ALSO A SLIGHT CHANCE FOR THUNDERSTORMS THURSDAY AND THURSDAY NIGHT.

.SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT...

SPOTTER ACTIVATION MAY BE NEEDED THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING TO REPORT ANY INSTANCES OF WIND DAMAGE... LARGE HAIL...SIGNIFICANT FLOODING...FUNNEL CLOUDS OR TORNADOES TO THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE.

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