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A rare triple threat: three simultaneous Atlantic hurricanes
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 08:47 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010 +4
For the first time in twelve years, we have a rare triple threat in the Atlantic--three simultaneous hurricanes. Hurricane Karl joined Hurricanes Igor and Julia in the steadily expanding Hurricanes of 2010 club this morning, becoming the sixth hurricane of the season. The last time we had three simultaneous hurricanes in the Atlantic was in 1998. That year also had four simultaneous hurricanes--Georges, Ivan, Jeanne and Karl--for a brief time on September 25. There has been just one other case of four simultaneous Atlantic hurricanes, on August 22, 1893. According to Phil Klotzbach at Colorado State, three simultaneous Atlantic hurricanes is a rare phenomena, having occurred only eight other times since 1851. The other years were 1893, 1926, 1950, 1961, 1967, 1980, 1995, and 1998.


Figure 1. Triple trouble: From left to right, Hurricanes Karl, Igor, and Julia roil the Atlantic. Image credit: NASA/GSFC.

Karl
Hurricane Karl continues to intensify. The latest Hurricane Hunter flight, flying at 12,000 feet, found flight level winds of 95 mph. This suggests surface winds of 85 mph, though the top surface winds seen by their SFMR instrument were about 80 mph. Mexican radar out of Alvarado shows the outer spirals bands of Karl are dumping heavy rains on the Mexican coast along the Bay of Campeche.


Figure 2. Afternoon radar image from the Alvarado, Mexico radar. The eye of Karl is visible in the upper right, and rain bands are affecting the coast to the east of the radar site. Image credit: Mexican Weather Service..

Forecast for Karl
Conditions for intensification are ideal in the Gulf of Mexico's Bay of Campeche, with wind shear expected to be low, 5 - 10 knots, SSTs warm, 29°C - 30°C, and the atmosphere very moist. These conditions, combined with the topography of the surrounding coast which tends to enhance counter-clockwise flow, should allow Karl to intensify into Category 2 hurricane before making landfall between Tampico and Vercruz, Mexico Friday afternoon. Karl is a small storm, and is unlikely to bring any rain or wind to Texas.

Igor
The Air Force Hurricane Hunters made their first foray into Hurricane Igor this afternoon, and found a high-end Category 3 storm, with a central pressure of 940 mb and top winds at 10,000 feet of 150 mph. The southwest portion of the eyewall was open, so Igor has the potential to intensify once again if it can close off the gap. There are no major changes to the track or intensify forecast for Igor in the latest set of model runs. Igor is expected to remain a major hurricane for the next two days, and is headed northwest at 7 mph. This motion will carry the core of the hurricane close to NOAA buoy 41044 between 9 - 11 pm EDT tonight. Top winds at the buoy so far today have been 65 mph, gusting to 81 mph, with a significant wave height of 38 feet (the significant wave height is the average of the highest 1/3 of the waves.)

Elsewhere in the tropics
The ECMWF model develops a new tropical depression a few hundred miles off the coast of Africa 2 - 4 days from now. The GFS is suggesting the eastern Caribbean could see a tropical depression 6 - 7 days from now.

I'll have an update Friday morning.

Jeff Masters
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351. Snowfire 11:16 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
Karl is a bit like Beta of 2005, which pinholed just before landfall at 115 mph.
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352. atmoaggie 11:17 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
Quoting PalmBeachWeatherBoy:
So was it a tornado that affected parts of new york city or was it just high winds and hail?
So far, only high winds reported. One would think that any funnel cloud visible would have made the news and SPC reports by now.
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353. WeatherNerdPR 11:17 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
Good evening, I see the triple threat Dr M was talking about on the blog, and it's very impressive.
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354. unf97 11:18 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
Quoting hydrus:
A little more convection in the N.W. quadrant and I do believe there will be a pronounced eye.


I think the eye will become more pronounced in the next 6-12 hours.

Karl is an impressive small and compact cyclone and it is sucking in all of that high heat content in the BOC.
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355. Barefootontherocks 11:18 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
SPC storm reports show no tornado reports from NY, NJ yet, but several high wind reports. NWS may have to do a damage assessment to see if tornado, straight line winds, microburst or what. Sure looks like it could of been a tornado.

One tornado in Ohio.
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356. BDADUDE 11:18 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
Quoting stormpetrol:

If I were you I'd take every precaution necessary including boarding up or shutters, get a good supply of water and non perishable food , you can't be too prepared when it comes to major hurricane especially one the size of Igor and hope that he is moving fast if he comes you're way, the slower the more damaging a hurricane or storm is. Stay safe and Take care.
Thanks. Things are looking a bit bleake. The island looks so pretty today too.
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357. tazzer06 11:21 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
Quoting dmdhdms:


mag.ncep.noaa.gov/NCOMAGWEB/appcontroller?prevpage=Param&MainPage=index&image=&page=Par am&cycle=09%2 F16%2F2010+18UTC&rname=UPPER+AIR+PARMS&pname=850_vort_ht&model=GFS&area=ATLANTIC& ;cat=&areaDesc=Atlan tic+region&fcast=Loop+All


thanks for the link!
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358. Katelynn 11:22 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    

Quoting Tazmanian:
here is what dr m had too say in a e mail


Hi Taz, in the official HURDAT data base, these 3 storms miss being hurricanes at the same time by 6 hours


Thanks Taz for letting us know what he had to say about 2005!


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359. Bordonaro 11:24 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
Numerous eyewitness reports in Staten Island, NY describing a funnel and hearing a freight train, then BAM!!
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360. docrod 11:25 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
Pressure dropping, winds building, waves peaking at buoy 41044

Link
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362. Neapolitan 11:25 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
Quoting Barefootontherocks:
SPC storm reports show no tornado reports from NY, NJ yet, but several high wind reports. NWS may have to do a damage assessment to see if tornado, straight line winds, microburst or what. Sure looks like it could of been a tornado.

One tornado in Ohio.


Here's a link to a constantly updated bunch of photos purportedly showing damage from today's NYC tornado. There's one image of a supposed funnel cloud (near the Statute of Liberty) being retweeted all over, but since there's only the one pic, I wouldn't trust it...yet. Otherwise, the damage could be a low-end tornado, or straight-line winds...
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364. ShenValleyFlyFish 11:27 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
Quoting shawn26:
Did Levi do his tropical tidbit today? If so, can someone post it for me please?
Click on the "blog index" at the bottom of the comments section. This will allow you to find Levi's blog and navigate there.
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365. CybrTeddy 11:28 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
Quoting btwntx08:
im watching it a lady was interviewed and thought it was the end of world


Either the mainstream news hasn't caught on or they don't care. Some reason the link posted earlier doesn't work for me.
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366. Goaskalice 11:29 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
BDA Dude I think Igor is Igorant an it's scerrin de hall outta me.
I am glad that residents are starting to pay attention. I hit Gorhams yesterday. I looks like I missed the madness! I think we are gonna take some serious licks. Stay safe.
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367. whipster 11:29 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
Quoting atmoaggie:


The eye is coming into focus now.
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368. hydrus 11:30 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
Quoting docrod:
Pressure dropping, winds building, waves peaking at buoy 41044

Link
The winds are getting high enough to where it might flatten the the waves out a bit. Some of that depends on the current though.
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369. TropicalAnalystwx13 11:30 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
Tropical System activity to this date since 2000:

2010: 11-6-4
2009: 6-2-2
2008: 10-5-3
2007: 9-3-2
2006: 8-4-2
2005: 15-8-5
2004: 11-8-6
2003: 9-2-2
2002: 9-2-1
2001: 7-3-2
2000: 8-3-1

In Bold are the seasons ahead of 2010 in terms of NAMED STORMS
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370. Bordonaro 11:30 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
Quoting Neapolitan:


Here's a link to a constantly updated bunch of photos purportedly showing damage from today's NYC tornado. There's one image of a supposed funnel cloud (near the Statute of Liberty) being retweeted all over, but since there's only the one pic, I wouldn't trust it...yet. Otherwise, the damage could be a low-end tornado, or straight-line winds...

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371. hydrus 11:32 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
Quoting btwntx08:
im watching it a lady was interviewed and thought it was the end of world
It sounds like a micro-burst.
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373. docrod 11:32 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
Quoting hydrus:
The winds are getting high enough to where it might flatten the the waves out a bit. Some of that depends on the current though.


I suspect the waves will affect the wind measurements as well especially when that buoy is in the trough ...
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374. AstroHurricane001 11:33 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
Hurricane Karl is forecast to take a track not much unlike Marco of 2008, after developing an eye overland and drifting south. There's even a chance of developing into a cat. 3. If this happens, this will be a rare instance where all three hurricanes that existed simultaneously was a major at some point in their existence, and the last time this happened was in 1961.
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376. hydrus 11:34 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
No grey dot as of yet..
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377. Portlight 11:34 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
Anyone on Bermuda: if you're inclined, please feel free to send us your contact info so we can connect with you if the need arises...
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378. hunkerdown 11:34 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
Quoting caneswatch:


The U, end of discussion.
Thug U, I think not...
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380. AstroHurricane001 11:35 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
380:

Wow! We have lake-effect, Colorado Lows and cool air in S. Ontario, and thunderstorms and tornadoes in the northeastern US. Looks like the pattern is setting up for winter storms this year to give us more snow than rain while tracking over our location, as the jet stream has shifted farther east than expected.
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381. TropicalAnalystwx13 11:35 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    




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382. tornadolarkin 11:36 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Tropical System activity to this date since 2000:

2010: 11-6-4
2009: 6-2-2
2008: 10-5-3
2007: 9-3-2
2006: 8-4-2
2005: 15-8-5
2004: 11-8-6
2003: 9-2-2
2002: 9-2-1
2001: 7-3-2
2000: 8-3-1

In Bold are the seasons ahead of 2010 in terms of NAMED STORMS

4 more storms until we are at 2005. That is a scary fact.
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383. hydrus 11:37 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
It looks like a human face on the S.W.side of Igor..
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385. ElConando 11:40 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
Quoting CaptnDan142:
Karl poses an interesting situation. Conditions being what they are in the area, Karl could feasibly intensify to Cat3.

His small size means he could ramp up very quickly. Karl is pretty small. There's land pretty close to him, so how big can he really get? So, this relatively tiny storm could theoretically become a Cat3 "Major" hurricane.

Much of the area where Karl could go is pretty sparsely populated, and population density maps are averaged. That combined with a small windfield that has 'highs and lows' in it could mean that a Major Hurricane could make landfall, and nobody would experience hurricane force winds.

If that happened, is it really a "Major"? I guess the record books will say yes, but in a way, it will diminish the status of "Major Hurricane", won't it?


Not as many people will be affected. Major Hurricane has nothing to do with the damage it may wrought but it's strength.
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386. hydrus 11:40 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
Julia is fading.
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387. StormSurgeon 11:40 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
Quoting hydrus:
It looks like a human face on the S.W.side of Igor..


Looks like a typical Igor profile to me.
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388. stormpetrol 11:40 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
Quoting hydrus:
It looks like a human face on the S.W.side of Igor..

True and looks like a someone tried to blow his brains out right above his ear! Weird!! Great observation.
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389. hydrus 11:41 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
Quoting cat5hurricane:
Unlike northwest coast of Florida (between Apalachicola & clearwater, the continental shelf is pretty steap off pretty much the entire coast of State of Veracrux, Mexico. The gentler relief will at least lessen the impact of ensuing surge somewhat.
Very true..A positive aspect for sure.
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390. fldude99 11:41 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
I've never seen a season where these storms affect such a minimum of land mass...thanks for small things..
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393. JLPR2 11:42 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
I guess it's good Igor isn't stronger:
highest steering layer:

The gap is closing.

But in this one it is very obvious still.
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394. Drakoen 11:42 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
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395. bigwes6844 11:44 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
anybody thinking that the storm that may get into the gulf see a u.s. landfall? if so where is the possible threats going to be?
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397. ShenValleyFlyFish 11:44 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
Quoting CaptnDan142:
Karl poses an interesting situation. Conditions being what they are in the area, Karl could feasibly intensify to Cat3.

His small size means he could ramp up very quickly. Karl is pretty small. There's land pretty close to him, so how big can he really get? So, this relatively tiny storm could theoretically become a Cat3 "Major" hurricane.

Much of the area where Karl could go is pretty sparsely populated, and population density maps are averaged. That combined with a small windfield that has 'highs and lows' in it could mean that a Major Hurricane could make landfall, and nobody would experience hurricane force winds.

If that happened, is it really a "Major"? I guess the record books will say yes, but in a way, it will diminish the status of "Major Hurricane", won't it?
"If a tree falls in the forest . . . ?"
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398. docrod 11:44 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
Quoting hydrus:
It looks like a human face on the S.W.side of Igor..


thank goodness it does not look like Elvis 8>)
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399. hydrus 11:44 PM GMT del 16 Settembre 2010    
Quoting cat5hurricane:
Time to write her obitituary
lol..I wont say good bye until I KNOW she is a goner. Learned my lesson well...
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