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The Atlantic is quiet; Russian heat wave ends; huge 926 mb South Indian Ocean storm
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 02:09 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010 +5
A tropical wave in the western Caribbean approaching Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula is generating disorganized thunderstorms. Wind shear is a moderate 10 - 15 knots over the region, and water vapor satellite images show that there is some dry air to the west that will interfere with any development that might occur. None of the reliable computer models develop this wave, and NHC is giving it a 10% chance of developing into a tropical depression.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of the disturbed region of weather of the coast of Africa, south of the Cape Verdes Islands.

The GFS, NOGAPS, and ECMWF models continue to predict that a tropical storm will form between Africa and the Lesser Antilles Islands sometime in the period 3 - 6 days from now. There is an area of disturbed weather south of the Cape Verdes Islands, but there is no obvious organization to the cloud pattern. Wind shear is a hefty 20 - 30 knots in the region, and the disturbance is a 1 - 2 day journey away from reaching a lower shear area where development can occur. Preliminary indications are that if a storm did develop in this region, it would track west-northwest and pass well to the northeast of the Lesser Antilles Islands 7 - 8 days from now. However, 7-day forecasts of a storm that hasn't even formed yet are not to be trusted.


Figure 2. The cold front that brought an end to the Great Russian Heat Wave of 2010 lies east of Moscow in the NASA MODIS photo taken at 8:35 UTC August 19, 2010. Smoke from wildfires is visible over a wide swath of Russia east of the front. Image credit: NASA.

The Great Russian Heat Wave of 2010 ends
A powerful cold front swept through Russia yesterday and today, finally bringing an end to the Great Russian Heat Wave of 2010. Temperatures at Moscow's Domodedovo airport hit 25°C (77°F) today, which is still 4°C (7°F) above average, but the high temperature since late June. Moscow has seen 62 consecutive days with a high temperature above average, but the latest forecast for Moscow predicts that remarkable string will come to an end Friday, when the high will reach just 17°C (62°F).

Massive 926 mb extratropical storm generating huge waves off Antarctica
One of the most intense extratropical storms in recent years is churning up the waters near the coast of Antarctica in the South Indian Ocean. The powerful storm peaked in intensity yesterday afternoon with a central pressure of 926 mb--the type of pressure typically found in a Category 4 hurricane. Storms this intense form on average once per year, or perhaps less often, according to an email I received from Jeff Callaghan of the Australia Bureau of Meteorology. Since extratropical storms do not form eyewalls, the winds at the surface from this monster storm probably reached "only" 100 - 120 mph (equivalent to a Category 2 or 3 hurricane.) The storm is forecast to generate huge waves with a significant wave height of 13 meters (44 feet) today, according to the NOAA Wavewatch III model (Figure 3.) I have flown into an extratropical storm this intense--in 1989, I participated in a field project based in Maine that intercepted a remarkable extratropical storm that "bombed" into a 928 mb low south of the Canadian Maritime provinces. You can read my story of that somewhat harrowing flight here.


Figure 3. Satellite image taken at 8:10 UTC August 19, 2010, showing the intense extratropical cyclone that has weakened to 940 mb in the South Indian Ocean near the coast of Antarctica. Image credit: NASA.


Figure 4. Surface pressure analysis from 18 UTC August 18, 2010, showing a 926 mb low in the South Indian Ocean, just north of Antarctica. Image credit: Jeff Callaghan, Australia Bureau of Meteorology.


Figure 5. Predicted wave height from the NOAA Wavewatch III model for 2pm EDT (18 UTC) today, August 19, 2010. Peak wave heights of 13 meters (44 feet) are projected over ocean areas between Antarctica and Australia. Long-period waves (19 seconds between crests) up to 7 meters (22 feet) high are predicted to affect the southwest coast of Australia by Sunday. The waves are predicted to propagate eastwards to New Zealand 8 - 9 days from now, and be a respectable 4 - 5 meters high then.

Jeff Masters
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601. BahaHurican 07:10 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
Re: 585... not as happy-making as the earlier run, is it? That setup allows for an E coast hit, at least potentially. This is what I was talking about earlier RE: all the model runs consistently placing this storm at 50W before any hint of recurvature. Doesn't mean we WILL see a landfall, just implies increased potential for one.

I'm also starting to think that if this system ends up being big enough, NE Car will get effects, landfall or no landfall.

But we shall see.

I'm out for a while. Will check in later to see what's happening with our modest gestating system...
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603. wunderkidcayman 07:11 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
wow its about time we see that yellow on our CV AOI do we have any invest tagged yet
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604. mrpuertorico 07:11 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
Quoting unf97:




The interesting thing about this TUTT feature north of the Virgin islands is that as it continues to move west is that it appears to be the last one at least for awhile. Looking at the rest of the Atlantic Basin eastward, it appears that we don't have anymore ULL to create shear to systems developing from the African coast. Conditions look to be quite conducive for CV systems to really get cranking in the near future.


Also the tutt is helping push the SAL out faster from the area and if you look east the SAL really diminishes for the antilles
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605. Stormchaser2007 07:11 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
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606. IKE 07:11 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
Quoting angiest:
If this is from today's run, then the position of the storm looks further west than GFS showed a couple of hours ago:



No...that's from 2 days ago....here it is...Link
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607. Hurricanes101 07:12 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
Quoting angiest:
If this is from today's run, then the position of the storm looks further west than GFS showed a couple of hours ago:



now that is right
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608. wunderkidcayman 07:13 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
this is for our two aoi that are highlighted on the TWO

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609. MiamiHurricanes09 07:13 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
Quoting StormW:


That's not the funny part.
The recurveature so far east is what's funny, the intensity scheme shown on the GFS looks on par to me, if not stronger.
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610. Stormchaser2007 07:14 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
Quoting StormW:


That's not the funny part.


I wish they would declare it an invest soon so we could get some model runs on this and have a general idea of where this may go.

I dont really like the GFS track so far. Doesn't add up.
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611. Hurricanes101 07:16 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:


I wish they would declare it an invest soon so we could get some model runs on this and have a general idea of where this may go.

I dont really like the GFS track so far. Doesn't add up.


the ridge that is set up, along with what the fact the ridge is forecasted to shift westward; does not support the track the GFS shows
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612. gordydunnot 07:16 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
Latest GFS looks like Ireland and England better develop a hurricane plan.
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613. MiamiHurricanes09 07:17 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:


I wish they would declare it an invest soon so we could get some model runs on this and have a general idea of where this may go.

I dont really like the GFS track so far. Doesn't add up.
Agreed! That recurvature so far east is because of the GFS overdoing the amplification of troughs...what's new? Especially being in a negative NAO.
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614. CybrTeddy 07:17 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
Only way I see the 12z GFS track happening is if the CV wave REALLY begins to ramp up (like, TD tomorrow ramp up)
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615. TropicalAnalystwx13 07:17 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:


I wish they would declare it an invest soon so we could get some model runs on this and have a general idea of where this may go.

I dont really like the GFS track so far. Doesn't add up.


Exactly.
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616. Stormchaser2007 07:17 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
Impressive area 0f 850mb vort with PGI31L:



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617. mojofearless 07:19 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
Quoting homelesswanderer:


How bout a steamer trunk full of video/dvds of every Dallas Cowboy game aired since 1989. It's made three trips with us since 2005. I love my hubby but the man has a sickness. Lol.


Now that's pretty funny!
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618. blsealevel 07:19 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    


24 hr

The Hurricane Tropical Winds map shows high level (about 40,000 feet) wind speed and direction over the Atlantic Ocean.



48 hr



72 hr
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619. sailingallover 07:19 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
Quoting Cotillion:
An operation to permanently seal the ruptured oil well in the Gulf of Mexico has been delayed until early September, US officials say.

They better hope nothing gets spinning in the Gulf before then.

Why? Storms won't affect something 5000' down.
They have shut to well off before with no leaks. I'm not even sure anymore what the status is now that the media is not screaming about it. Are they collecting or is it shut off right now?
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620. TropicalAnalystwx13 07:20 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
Made it to show everyone where the pouches are...

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621. breald 07:21 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
I kind of wish the wave train will get going so we have something real to talk about. Instead of the if it forms talk we have now.
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623. Floodman 07:22 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
Quoting sailingallover:

Why? Storms won't affect something 5000' down.
They have shut to well off before with no leaks. I'm not even sure anymore what the status is now that the media is not screaming about it. Are they collecting or is it shut off right now?


It's been capped since 7-18; the static kill worked but they want to do a further bottom kill to ensure it's stopped. At this point, no oil is leaking from the seabed, though I hear a great deal just washed up at Orange Beach Al from the original leak
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624. IKE 07:22 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
Here's the 12Z ECMWF 192 hour frame...




216 hour frame...




240 hour frame...

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625. nrtiwlnvragn 07:22 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Agreed! That recurvature so far east is because of the GFS overdoing the amplification of troughs...what's new? Especially being in a negative NAO.


You have data on overdoing the amplification of troughs? Link?
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627. nw5b 07:22 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
Quoting MSInland05:


When Katrina came..we plugged my drip maker into the generator...talk about bogging the generator down. I will make it the old fashioned way if we get a storm like that again.


Check on the back of your coffee maker. It might surprise you. Some of those "little drip coffee makers" are 1400 Watts!
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628. hydrus 07:23 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
Quoting BahaHurican:
Coffee. And ice to chill it with... Hmmm... anybody with a clue how to brew coffee on a gas grill or over a sterno?

If power does go out...
Put your coffee in the coffee filter and tie it off with string. Then put in pot of water. You can adjust water or coffee amount for strength. Slowly simmer for a few minutes or longer if needed.:)
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629. wunderkidcayman 07:23 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
hmm he 24-72 hours forecast shows either a strong TD or TS is 72 hours



that not only has it moving west
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631. StormSurgeon 07:24 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
Quoting MSInland05:


When Katrina came..we plugged my drip maker into the generator...talk about bogging the generator down. I will make it the old fashioned way if we get a storm like that again.


You're not kidding. That heating element in a drip maker eats up about 1200 watts. I'm serious, I have an old percolator that you put on the stove. I used to use on camp outs and such when I was young, and believe it or not, it makes a really great pot of coffee....if you don't over perc it.
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632. Hurricanes101 07:25 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:


You have data on overdoing the amplification of troughs? Link?


how about years of the GFS overamplifying troughs, it is infamous for it
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633. MSInland05 07:26 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
Quoting nw5b:


Check on the back of your coffee maker. It might surprise you. Some of those "little drip coffee makers" are 1400 Watts!


LOL I know we did that. My BF said D*** that thing uses more power than the fridge. It was funny.
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634. Stormchaser2007 07:26 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
Quoting StormW:


I hear ya. I mean, if you look at that run you posted...the GFS has it initialized closer to like 17-18N...and it's closer to 10N as we speak.


Exactly. If the initialization is off the whole run is off.

At any rate, it should be an invest within the next 12-24 hours.
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635. sailingallover 07:26 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
Quoting Hurricanes101:


the ridge that is set up, along with what the fact the ridge is forecasted to shift westward; does not support the track the GFS shows

Yes but then a Large Low develops off the coast from a cold front that just passed over the east coast putting a weakness in the ridge which creates a weakness and the higher pressures retreat East. If you trust the model enough to develop the storm why don't you trust the model to predict where it will go?
LOOK at the where the 1016MB line is in the surface forecast. At a minimum it will climb North to that line rapidly and the stronger it is the faster it will go north. It is not just the fact the ridge exists it is how strong it is as well.
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636. nrtiwlnvragn 07:26 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
Quoting StormW:






Thats current data, what will it be in 7 days.
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637. mojofearless 07:27 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
Quoting BahaHurican:
Coffee. And ice to chill it with... Hmmm... anybody with a clue how to brew coffee on a gas grill or over a sterno?

If power does go out...

Someone on here already said French Press - I strongly second that motion, and actually have a French Press in my hurricane box. Now if only I could find a manual grinder for my whole beans...
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638. Hurricanes101 07:27 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
Quoting sailingallover:

Yes but then a Large Low develops off the coast from the cold front that just passed over the east coast putting a weakness in the ridge which creates a weakness and the higher pressures retreat East. If you trust the model enough to develop the storm why don't you trust the model to predict where it will go?


because they are much better at showing development in the short term (which is where we are now with this system), then they are at showing tracks in the long term
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640. nrtiwlnvragn 07:27 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
Quoting Hurricanes101:


how about years of the GFS overamplifying troughs, it is infamous for it


I see that posted here, but no one so far has been able to produce actual data.
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641. StormSurgeon 07:28 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
Quoting Baybuddy:
My favorite, local met, Dr. Bill Williams mentioned the other day that things will ramp up and stay that way longer...perhaps through October.


I love Dr. Bill. I took his 3 quarter meteorology series at S. Alabama back in 92.
those were some fun classes. He's heading up a full blown Meteorology degree program out at South now.
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643. Stormchaser2007 07:29 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
Accuweather

We are monitoring closely a large area of clouds, rain and thunderstorms mostly just south of the Cape Verde Islands. We don't see a lower level feature forming yet. However, satellite motion shows clouds associated with this system are turning counter clockwise suggesting at least some mid level rotation. Upper level winds,lower level winds and the overall atmosphere are favorable for further organization. We believe there is a good chance this feature will gradually become an organized tropical system within the next day or two and could become the next tropical cyclone in the Atlantic Basin this weekend. The movement of this system will be highly dependent on where a low level feature forms. Computer forecasts are suggesting formation will start to take place over the next 24-36 hours around 12 north, 30 west. The large high pressure area in the Atlantic has been slowly working eastward during the past couple of days and this trend should continue. This suggests this system will move westward for a few days then gradually turn more northwestward next week. The future path of this system remains highly uncertain until a low level feature forms.
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644. mrpuertorico 07:29 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
Quoting breald:
I kind of wish the wave train will get going so we have something real to talk about. Instead of the if it forms talk we have now.


well first of all train is allready out of the station second of all watching if a storm will form is half the battle and third like storm said watch what you wish for
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645. MSInland05 07:29 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
I know the kind you are talking about, I used one for years, but over the years and children well it disappeared. I think now I will go on search for one.
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646. TropicalAnalystwx13 07:29 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
I believe, if this does in fact recurve, it will recurve after it has passed the Leeward Islands.
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648. MiamiHurricanes09 07:30 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:


You have data on overdoing the amplification of troughs? Link?
Nope, no data, but I've seen the GFS over-amplify troughs since last year.
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649. Stormchaser2007 07:30 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
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650. xcool 07:31 PM GMT del 19 Agosto 2010    
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