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Pakistan's Katrina; 94L could develop in Gulf of Mexico
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 03:23 PM GMT del 10 Agosto 2010 +4
The monsoon season of 2010 continues to generate havoc in Asia, as lingering rains from the latest monsoon low continue to affect hard-hit Pakistan, China, and India. At least 702 are now reported dead and 1,042 are missing in China's Gansu province, due to torrential monsoon rains that triggered a deadly landslide and extreme flooding on Sunday. At least 137 died in floods and landslides in the neighboring Indian state of Kashmir over the weekend, with 500 people missing. Monsoon flooding and landslides have also killed at least 65 people in Afghanistan in the past two weeks. But no country has suffered more than Pakistan, where monsoon floods have destroyed huge portions of the nation's infrastructure and killed at least 1600 people. The number of people affected or needing assistance has been estimated to be as high as 13 million people--8% of the nation's population. The disaster is the worst natural disaster in Pakistan's history, and is rightfully being called "Pakistan's Katrina."


Figure 1. The heavy thunderstorms of a monsoon depression lie over northwestern Pakistan near Islamabad in this visible satellite image taken by NASA's MODIS instrument on July 29, 2010. Image credit: NASA.

Monsoons: a primer
In summer, the sun warms up land areas more strongly than ocean areas. This occurs because wind and ocean turbulence mix the ocean's absorbed heat into a "mixed layer" approximately 50 meters deep, whereas on land, the sun's heat penetrates at a slow rate to a limited depth. Furthermore, due to its molecular properties, water has the ability to absorb more heat than the solid materials that make up land. As a result of this summertime differential heating of land and ocean, a low pressure region featuring rising air develops over land areas. Moisture-laden ocean winds blow towards the low pressure region and are drawn upwards once over land. The rising air expands and cools, condensing its moisture into some of the heaviest rains on Earth--the monsoon. Monsoons operate via the same principle as the familiar summer afternoon sea breeze, but on a grand scale. Each summer, monsoons affect every continent on Earth except Antarctica, and are responsible for life-giving rains that sustain the lives of billions of people. In India, home for over 1.1 billion people, the monsoon provides 80% of the annual rainfall. However, monsoons have their dark side as well--hundreds of people in India and surrounding nations die in an average year in floods and landslides triggered by heavy monsoon rains. The most deadly flooding events usually come from monsoon depressions (also known as monsoon lows.) A monsoon depression is similar to (but larger than) a tropical depression. Both are spinning storms hundreds of kilometers in diameter with sustained winds of 50 - 55 kph (30 - 35 mph), nearly calm winds at their center, and generate very heavy rains. Each summer, approximately 6 - 7 monsoon depressions form over the Bay of Bengal and track westwards across India. Four monsoon depressions originated in the Bay of Bengal in the El Niño-weakened monsoon season of 2009. This year's first monsoon depression formed on July 24, crossed over India, and reached Pakistan on July 27. The rains increased in intensity over the next two days, peaking on July 29 and 30, when a low pressure system that moved across Pakistan from the west enhanced rainfall from the monsoon depression. Over the 3-day period July 28 - 30, torrential rains in excess of 8 inches (203 mm) fell in many regions of northwest Pakistan Rainfall amounts at two stations in the catchment basins of the Jhelum River and Indus River reached 19.49" (495 mm) for the month of July, and 7.56" (192 mm) fell in a single day, July 30, at Tarbela. A second monsoon depression arrived in Pakistan on August 3, and has brought additional heavy rains.

Are the this year's monsoon floods due to global warming?
No single weather event can be attributed to climate change, but a warming climate does load the dice in favor of heavier extreme precipitation events. This occurs because more water vapor can evaporate into a warmer atmosphere, increasing the chances of record heavy downpours. In a study published in Science in 2006, Goswami et al. found that the level of heavy rainfall activity in the monsoon over India had more than doubled in the 50 years since the 1950s, leading to an increased disaster potential from heavy flooding. Moderate and weak rain events decreased over the past 50 years, leaving the total amount of rain deposited by the monsoon roughly constant. The authors commented, "These findings are in tune with model projections and some observations that indicate an increase in heavy rain events and a decrease in weak events under global warming scenarios." We should expect to see an increased number of disastrous monsoon floods in coming decades if the climate continues to warm as expected. Since the population continues to increase at a rapid rate in the region, death tolls from monsoon flooding disasters are likely to climb dramatically in coming decades.

References
Goswami, et al., 2006, " Increasing Trend of Extreme Rain Events Over India in a Warming Environment", Science, 1 December 2006:Vol. 314. no. 5804, pp. 1442 - 1445 DOI: 10.1126/science.1132027

Dave's Landslide blog has some great discussions of the flooding and destruction wrought by the terrible monsoon rains this year in Pakistan, India, Afghanistan, and China.

Donations urgently needed
The massive humanitarian crisis in Pakistan requires a huge response by the international community. Wunderblogger Dr. Ricky Rood, author of our Climate Change Blog, has a friend working in Pakistan who underscored the desperate situation there:

This is the worst natural disaster in the history of Pakistan in terms of number of people and area affected. Although not as many people have been killed as in the 2005 earthquake, we have already nearly 900,000 displaced persons thus far just in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. Crops are destroyed; shops, hotels, and other business have simply been swept away in Swat, which had just this year been cleared of Taliban and was on the way to recovery; and districts closer to Peshawar and parts of Peshawar district are still, or perhaps again after yesterday/today, under water. After the immediate emergency response, it will be years of rebuilding to replace what has been lost and to start to develop again. I know you have the power to control the weather, so if you cold give us a week or two without more rain at least we could keep the helicopters flying and give people a chance to go to their homes, recover what might still be there, set up tents if we can get enough to them, and start to clean up."

She gave the following recommendations for charities that do work in the flood-ravaged zone, and are effective at getting aid to those who need it the most:

Doctors Without Borders

The International Red Cross

MERLIN medical relief charity

The mobile giving service mGive allows one to text the word "SWAT" to 50555. The text will result in a $10 donation to the UN Refugee Agency (UNHCR) Pakistan Flood Relief Effort.

She mentioned that it is better to send money to the organizations doing the relief work than to try to organize shipments of goods.


Figure 2. Morning radar image of 94L from the Key West radar.

94L
A 1010 mb low pressure system (94L) near the Florida Keys is generating disorganized heavy thunderstorms over Florida and the adjacent waters, and could become a tropical or subtropical depression as early as Wednesday. Current Key West radar shows the rotation of the storm, but the thunderstorm activity has not yet organized into low-level spiral bands. A few areas in the Keys and extreme South Florida have seen 1 - 2 inches of rain thus far from 94L. Wind shear is currently a moderate 10 - 20 knots over 94L, and water temperatures are very warm, 30 - 31°C. Water vapor satellite imagery shows that 94L is forming beneath an upper-level low with plenty of dry air, and there is a substantial flow of dry, continental air wrapping into 94L. This dry air is retarding the development of 94L, and may force the storm to organize into a subtropical storm instead of a tropical storm. A subtropical storm typically has a large, cloud free center of circulation, with very heavy thunderstorm activity in a band removed at least 100 miles from the center. The difference between a subtropical storm and a tropical storm is not that important as far as the winds they can generate, but tropical storms generate more rain. There is no such thing as a subtropical hurricane. If a subtropical storm intensifies enough to have hurricane force winds, than it must have become fully tropical. It usually takes at least two days for a subtropical storm to make the transition to a tropical storm.

Forecast for 94L
The latest SHIPS model forecast predicts that wind shear will stay in the moderate range, 10 - 20 knots, over the Gulf of Mexico this week. The storm's main problem will be dry air, and I don't expect 94L to undergo rapid development. Most of the models bring 94L ashore over Louisiana by Thursday, though the GFDL model predicts 94L could stall off the coast and not make landfall until Friday. If 94L does make landfall Thursday, it is unlikely to be a hurricane, due to all the dry air aloft in the Gulf. However, the GFDL model is predicting that the 1-day delay in landfall to Friday will allow 94L enough time to grow fully tropical and intensify into a Category 1 hurricane. I think this solution is unlikely. Storms that get their start underneath a cold, dry, upper-level low very rarely attain hurricane strength in three days. A 40 - 50 mph tropical or subtropical storm at landfall Thursday or Friday is a much more reasonable forecast.

93L
A tropical wave (Invest 93) in the middle Atlantic Ocean is close to tropical depression status. The disturbance has a well-defined surface circulation, but only a limited amount of heavy thunderstorm activity, thanks to dry air and wind shear of 10 - 20 knots affecting it due to a large upper-level low pressure system to the west. Wind shear is expected to stay in the moderate range, 10 - 20 knots, over the next four days, which is low enough that 93L could become a tropical depression at any time during that period. NHC is giving 93L a 60% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Thursday morning. The GFS, GFDL, and HWRF models predict 93L will develop, and the GFDL forecasts that the storm will become a hurricane. A strong trough of low pressure moving across the central Atlantic is recurving 93L to the north, and the system should only be a concern to shipping interests. None of the reliable computer models are forecasting tropical cyclone development in the Atlantic over the next seven days, other than for 93L and 94L.

Moscow hits 99°F again today
Temperatures at Moscow's Domodedovo airport hit 37°C (99°F) today, the 28th day in row that temperatures have exceeded 30°C (86°F) in Moscow. The average high temperature for August 10 is 21°C (69°F). Moscow's high temperature have averaged 15°C (27°F) above average for the first ten days of August--a truly extraordinary anomaly. Smog and smoke from wildfires continued to blanket the city today, with the Russian Meteorological Agency reporting that pollution due to carbon monoxide, nitrogen dioxide, ozone, and hydrocarbons exceeding the safe limit by factors of 1.2 - 2.2. Air pollution levels peaked at 6.5 times the safe level on Saturday. As I reported in yesterday's post, the heat wave has likely killed at least 15,000 people in Russia so far. There is some slight relief in sight--the latest forecast for Moscow calls for high temperatures of 31 - 33°C (88 - 91°F) Wednesday though Sunday--still 20°F above normal, but better than the 27°F above normal so far this month.

"Hurricane Haven" airing again this afternoon
Tune into another airing of my live Internet radio show, "Hurricane Haven", at 4pm EDT today. Listeners will be able to call in and ask questions. The call in number is 415-983-2634, or you can post a question in the comments area on my blog during the show. You can also email the questions to me today before the show: jmasters@wunderground.com. Be sure to include "Hurricane Haven question" in the subject line. Some topics I'll cover today on the show:

1) Invest 94 and 93
2) A look ahead at the coming two weeks
3) Status of La Niña

Today's show will be about 30 minutes, and you can tune in at http://www.wunderground.com/wxradio/wubroadcast.h tml. The show will be recorded and stored as a podcast.

Jeff Masters
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3401. GetReal 11:49 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Funnel cloud near Audubon park in NOLA ... I'm watching it as we speak!!!
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3402. CybrTeddy 11:49 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
TD5's gaining convection, will probably get named by 5 pm.
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3403. weathermanwannabe 11:50 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
I think this solution is unlikely. Storms that get their start underneath a cold, dry, upper-level low very rarely attain hurricane strength in three days. A 40 - 50 mph tropical or subtropical storm at landfall Thursday or Friday is a much more reasonable forecast.

Dr. M will certainly address this issue again later today; while the ULL has gotten out of it's immediate way and moving west across LA, it seems to be sucking convection off from TD5; the proximity of the ULL seems to be hindering organization at the moment.
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3404. Neapolitan 11:50 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
93L close-up. The shear has relaxed a bit; now let's see what this thing can do. Click for a larger view.

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3405. FLDART1 11:51 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Got up looked at 95L, No need to head into the EOC today...lol, I think I'll call out today and go fishing...lol
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3406. gator23 11:51 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting DestinJeff:
THIS GENERAL MOTION IS FORECAST TO CONTINUE TODAY...WITH A DECREASE
IN FORWARD SPEED EXPECTED ON THURSDAY. ON THE FORECAST TRACK...THE
CENTER OF THE TROPICAL CYCLONE WILL BE APPROACHING THE NORTH
CENTRAL GULF OF MEXICO TONIGHT OR THURSDAY MORNING


that whole thing makes no sense. kind of contradicts itself a bit. First, slow down in fwd speed on Thursday, then arrival to the gulf coast tonight or Thursday morning.


Just because it is slowing down doenst mean its not over land. It makes sense
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3407. IKE 11:51 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 AM EDT WED AUG 11 2010

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER IS ISSUING ADVISORIES ON TROPICAL
DEPRESSION FIVE...LOCATED ABOUT 240 MILES SOUTH OF APALACHICOLA
FLORIDA.

SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS ASSOCIATED WITH A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM
LOCATED ABOUT 750 MILES NORTHEAST OF THE NORTHERN LEEWARD ISLANDS
HAVE CHANGED LITTLE IN ORGANIZATION DURING THE LAST SEVERAL HOURS.
UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE MARGINALLY CONDUCIVE FOR DEVELOPMENT...AND ANY
INCREASE IN THUNDERSTORM ORGANIZATION COULD RESULT IN THE FORMATION
OF A TROPICAL DEPRESSION AT ANY TIME. THERE IS A HIGH CHANCE...70
PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES TOWARD THE NORTH AND NORTH-NORTHEAST OVER
THE ATLANTIC.

SHOWER ACTIVITY REMAINS LIMITED IN ASSOCIATION WITH A TROPICAL WAVE
LOCATED ABOUT 500 MILES EAST OF THE SOUTHERN WINDWARD ISLANDS. THE
WAVE IS MOVING WESTWARD AT ABOUT 15 MPH AND DEVELOPMENT...IF
ANY...SHOULD BE SLOW TO OCCUR. THERE IS A LOW CHANCE...10
PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER CANGIALOSI
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3408. severstorm 11:53 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting gator23:

Try reading it again with both eyes open this time. Alow pressure center forming in the central/eastern gulf. OK i'm done.
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3409. GetReal 11:54 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
That funnel cloud has thankfully dissipated without touching down....
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3410. calder 11:56 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
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3411. calder 11:57 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
amazing youtube video of a storm front

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrmIutAOooA&feature=player_embedded
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3412. IKE 11:58 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
If TD5 degenerates into an area of low pressure, that will be 2 systems that have degenerated in the GOM within the last 3 weeks...in almost the same location.
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3413. CybrTeddy 11:59 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
SATELLITE AND SURFACE DATA INDICATE THAT THE DEPRESSION HAS LOST
SOME ORGANIZATION AND COULD BE DEGENERATING INTO A BROAD AREA OF
LOW PRESSURE.



Well, blows my theory out the window.
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3414. DoubleAction 11:59 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Good Morning, looks like the ULL ran off with some energy from TD5, also looks like there is some confusion as to where TD5 went and whether this is a subtropical low system after all. The warm core COC of TD5 looks to be at 26.5N 84W. Whether it's a surface circulation is highly debatable at this time. It looks to be flaring up nicely again as it seperates from the ULL, environment looks condusive to me, warm temps, 10 knot shear, moist environment. It also looks to be drifting NW, it should follow a similar path of the ULL as it gains a little more latitude.
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3415. tkeith 11:59 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
On the rebound?

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3417. KATRINABILOXIGIRL 12:00 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting DestinJeff:
THIS GENERAL MOTION IS FORECAST TO CONTINUE TODAY...WITH A DECREASE
IN FORWARD SPEED EXPECTED ON THURSDAY. ON THE FORECAST TRACK...THE
CENTER OF THE TROPICAL CYCLONE WILL BE APPROACHING THE NORTH
CENTRAL GULF OF MEXICO TONIGHT OR THURSDAY MORNING


that whole thing makes no sense. kind of contradicts itself a bit. First, slow down in fwd speed on Thursday, then arrival to the gulf coast tonight or Thursday morning.
It says approaching, not arrival!
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3418. NASA101 12:01 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
..Pretty quiet in the tropical Atlantic - waiting and watching massive waves over Africa - hopefully they'll produce something worthwhile to follow...!?
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3419. DestinDome 12:01 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting IKE:
If TD5 degenerates into an area of low pressure, that will be 2 systems that have degenerated in the GOM within the last 3 weeks...in almost the same location.
Degenerate and GOM in the same sentence almost seems as odd as snow in Miami.
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3420. HurricaneHunterGal 12:02 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting calder:
amazing youtube video of a storm front

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrmIutAOooA&feature=player_embedded

That is incredible! That comes in FAST...TOO fast! wow!
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3421. weathermanwannabe 12:02 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting CybrTeddy:
SATELLITE AND SURFACE DATA INDICATE THAT THE DEPRESSION HAS LOST
SOME ORGANIZATION AND COULD BE DEGENERATING INTO A BROAD AREA OF
LOW PRESSURE.



Well, blows my theory out the window.


Don't worry about it; happens all the time to many on here.......... :)
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3422. Jax82 12:03 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting Jeff9641:


Good Morning! Looks like TD 5 may have some tricks up his sleeve later this week.


Do you still think this is going to be a hurricane now? And do you still think this will hit Florida?
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3423. gator23 12:03 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting severstorm:

Try reading it again with both eyes open this time. Alow pressure center forming in the central/eastern gulf. OK i'm done.

that would be a DIFFERENT low pressure system. you said "that storm coming back into the gulf" which indicates to me that you believe that td5 will be coming back into the gulf. This is wrong as it will be a DIFFERENT system coming into the gulf Monday. try blogging with your one mouth closed.
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3424. tkeith 12:04 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting IKE:
If TD5 degenerates into an area of low pressure, that will be 2 systems that have degenerated in the GOM within the last 3 weeks...in almost the same location.
Maybe all those dispersants were just a weather modification experiment...or CB could have slipped some of his tunnels in there while we weren't lookin :)
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3425. IKE 12:04 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Something about this season just is not clicking...yet.

I see the convection with 93L is fading again.

And BP has abandoned the oil spill again due to a tropical system.
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3427. nrtiwlnvragn 12:05 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
06Z HWRF for 05L still wants to ramp up to about 55kt.


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3428. IKE 12:06 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting tkeith:
Maybe all those despersants were just a weather modification experiment...or CB could have slipped some of his tunnels in there while we weren't lookin :)


I've never seen 2 systems die within 3 weeks in the GOM.

Goes to show the "very high SST's" need other factors to work.
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3429. miamiamiga 12:07 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Well, I emptied the pool a bit too much yesterday, but now it seems that was a good thing. Venice, FL (Coastal Sarasota County) is getting pounded with rain right now from TD5 and it looks like this may go on all day according to the radar. I think we are going to have some flooding around here!
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3430. tkeith 12:07 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting IKE:


I've never seen 2 systems die within 3 weeks in the GOM.

Goes to show the "very high SST's" need other factors to work.
I agree, definitely not the norm...
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3431. surfmom 12:09 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting IKE:


You get your AC back on?


as we speak -- the final hook-up is on going
one heck of a week for the men around here
Women can endure - LOL
Heading out to check the shoreline b/4 some office work 4 hubby - Impressive clouds to my south and west - quite beautiful, yet foreboding. Can't hit the water till this afternoon
--wonder if T-storms will keep me grounded

My biggest concern is what this means as far as the OIL & dispersants being "pushed" onshore
and how are those Levee's in NOLA?

Rain band coming through --
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3432. tkeith 12:10 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
So far it seems the ULL's have been our "saving grace"...
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3433. Chicklit 12:10 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
g'mornin
TD5WVLoop
system looks anemic
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3435. NASA101 12:10 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:
06Z HWRF for 05L still wants to ramp up to about 55kt.




Don't bother yourself with HWRF model - it's pretty useless in these situation... 94L as I predicted hasn't amounted to much! Atlantic is pretty quiet for now!!
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3436. hurricanehanna 12:10 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting tkeith:
On the rebound?


ewe...not what I wanted to see this morning....Hey tkeith? Is she trying to get better organized?
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3437. ShenValleyFlyFish 12:12 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting IKE:
Something about this season just is not clicking...yet.

I see the convection with 93L is fading again.

And BP has abandoned the oil spill again due to a tropical system.


I'd rather see them run than screw something up and hurt/kill a bunch more people. If they'd been as careful before as after we wouldn't have this mess.
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3438. SeaMule 12:12 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
everyone is talking about this thing dying. Not happening. Now that the transition to a tropical system has taken place, and the ULL is swinging out of the way, it will ramp up. Look for a increase in wind speed and convection. 90 mph storm is definitely a possibility.
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3440. tkeith 12:13 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting hurricanehanna:

ewe...not what I wanted to see this morning....Hey tkeith? Is she trying to get better organized?
I thought so Hanna, cant really see why it wouldn't. But it's not too impressive at the moment.
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3441. surfmom 12:13 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting miamiamiga:
Well, I emptied the pool a bit too much yesterday, but now it seems that was a good thing. Venice, FL (Coastal Sarasota County) is getting pounded with rain right now from TD5 and it looks like this may go on all day according to the radar. I think we are going to have some flooding around here!
Not looking too friendly for a chica w/a surfboard - don't mind surfing in rain -- but NOT BOOMERS/lightening (too much sin in my closet - LOL)
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3442. tropicfreak 12:13 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting Jeff9641:


I agree IKE something is missing so far this year. I really tought TD 5 would be much more organized this morning and it isn't at all.


Thunderstorm actvity is currently on the increase.
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3444. nrtiwlnvragn 12:15 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting NASA101:


Don't bother yourself with HWRF model - it's pretty useless in these situation... 94L as I predicted hasn't amounted to much! Atlantic is pretty quiet for now!!


I look at many different models and will post what I want to.
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3445. miamiamiga 12:16 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting surfmom:
Not looking too friendsly for a chica w/a surfboard - don't mind surfing in rain -- but NOT BOOMERS/lightening (too much sin in my closet - LOL)


well, at least with this batch you may be lucky..no boomers. Not sure about laterr in the day though...might want to get out sooner rather than later!
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3446. Chicklit 12:16 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
CATLoop

TROPICAL WAVE EXTENDS FROM 17N51W TO 07N55W MOVING W AT 10-15 KT. THE WAVE REMAINS EMBEDDED WITHIN A BROAD AREA OF LOW-LEVEL CYCLONIC FLOW BETWEEN 47W-56W WITH AN AREA OF MAXIMUM MOISTURE NOTED ON TOTAL PRECIPITABLE WATER IMAGERY FROM 10N-17N BETWEEN 48W-55W. WHILE THE WAVE LACKS ANY DEEP ORGANIZED CONVECTION... SCATTERED SHOWERS ARE OCCURRING FROM 07N-16N BETWEEN 51W-57W.
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3448. surfmom 12:16 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting ShenValleyFlyFish:


I'd rather see them run than screw something up and hurt/kill a bunch more people. If they'd been as careful before as after we wouldn't have this mess.


Thank-you Shen for your good point - it's been hell being a Gulf coastie this summer
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3449. tropicfreak 12:17 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting SeaMule:
everyone is talking about this thing dying. Not happening. Now that the transition to a tropical system has taken place, and the ULL is swinging out of the way, it will ramp up. Look for a increase in wind speed and convection. 90 mph storm is definitely a possibility.


I think 90 mph is a bit of a stretch, though it could be a strong ts (65-70 mph) by landfall, and MAYBE we can squeak out a brief weak cat 1 hurricane but don't count too much on that happening.
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3450. tkeith 12:18 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting Jeff9641:


Every post you put up I find usefull so don't listen to some on here.
that makes two of us. mornin NRT
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3451. TexasHurricaneExpert 12:18 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
I don't even post that much on here. Don't have time to do it. I just found an interesting link about this year. Here is the link what Dr. Klotzbach said...

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Jeff co-founded the Weather Underground in 1995 while working on his Ph.D. He flew with the NOAA Hurricane Hunters from 1986-1990.

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