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Pakistan's Katrina; 94L could develop in Gulf of Mexico
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 03:23 PM GMT del 10 Agosto 2010 +4
The monsoon season of 2010 continues to generate havoc in Asia, as lingering rains from the latest monsoon low continue to affect hard-hit Pakistan, China, and India. At least 702 are now reported dead and 1,042 are missing in China's Gansu province, due to torrential monsoon rains that triggered a deadly landslide and extreme flooding on Sunday. At least 137 died in floods and landslides in the neighboring Indian state of Kashmir over the weekend, with 500 people missing. Monsoon flooding and landslides have also killed at least 65 people in Afghanistan in the past two weeks. But no country has suffered more than Pakistan, where monsoon floods have destroyed huge portions of the nation's infrastructure and killed at least 1600 people. The number of people affected or needing assistance has been estimated to be as high as 13 million people--8% of the nation's population. The disaster is the worst natural disaster in Pakistan's history, and is rightfully being called "Pakistan's Katrina."


Figure 1. The heavy thunderstorms of a monsoon depression lie over northwestern Pakistan near Islamabad in this visible satellite image taken by NASA's MODIS instrument on July 29, 2010. Image credit: NASA.

Monsoons: a primer
In summer, the sun warms up land areas more strongly than ocean areas. This occurs because wind and ocean turbulence mix the ocean's absorbed heat into a "mixed layer" approximately 50 meters deep, whereas on land, the sun's heat penetrates at a slow rate to a limited depth. Furthermore, due to its molecular properties, water has the ability to absorb more heat than the solid materials that make up land. As a result of this summertime differential heating of land and ocean, a low pressure region featuring rising air develops over land areas. Moisture-laden ocean winds blow towards the low pressure region and are drawn upwards once over land. The rising air expands and cools, condensing its moisture into some of the heaviest rains on Earth--the monsoon. Monsoons operate via the same principle as the familiar summer afternoon sea breeze, but on a grand scale. Each summer, monsoons affect every continent on Earth except Antarctica, and are responsible for life-giving rains that sustain the lives of billions of people. In India, home for over 1.1 billion people, the monsoon provides 80% of the annual rainfall. However, monsoons have their dark side as well--hundreds of people in India and surrounding nations die in an average year in floods and landslides triggered by heavy monsoon rains. The most deadly flooding events usually come from monsoon depressions (also known as monsoon lows.) A monsoon depression is similar to (but larger than) a tropical depression. Both are spinning storms hundreds of kilometers in diameter with sustained winds of 50 - 55 kph (30 - 35 mph), nearly calm winds at their center, and generate very heavy rains. Each summer, approximately 6 - 7 monsoon depressions form over the Bay of Bengal and track westwards across India. Four monsoon depressions originated in the Bay of Bengal in the El Niño-weakened monsoon season of 2009. This year's first monsoon depression formed on July 24, crossed over India, and reached Pakistan on July 27. The rains increased in intensity over the next two days, peaking on July 29 and 30, when a low pressure system that moved across Pakistan from the west enhanced rainfall from the monsoon depression. Over the 3-day period July 28 - 30, torrential rains in excess of 8 inches (203 mm) fell in many regions of northwest Pakistan Rainfall amounts at two stations in the catchment basins of the Jhelum River and Indus River reached 19.49" (495 mm) for the month of July, and 7.56" (192 mm) fell in a single day, July 30, at Tarbela. A second monsoon depression arrived in Pakistan on August 3, and has brought additional heavy rains.

Are the this year's monsoon floods due to global warming?
No single weather event can be attributed to climate change, but a warming climate does load the dice in favor of heavier extreme precipitation events. This occurs because more water vapor can evaporate into a warmer atmosphere, increasing the chances of record heavy downpours. In a study published in Science in 2006, Goswami et al. found that the level of heavy rainfall activity in the monsoon over India had more than doubled in the 50 years since the 1950s, leading to an increased disaster potential from heavy flooding. Moderate and weak rain events decreased over the past 50 years, leaving the total amount of rain deposited by the monsoon roughly constant. The authors commented, "These findings are in tune with model projections and some observations that indicate an increase in heavy rain events and a decrease in weak events under global warming scenarios." We should expect to see an increased number of disastrous monsoon floods in coming decades if the climate continues to warm as expected. Since the population continues to increase at a rapid rate in the region, death tolls from monsoon flooding disasters are likely to climb dramatically in coming decades.

References
Goswami, et al., 2006, " Increasing Trend of Extreme Rain Events Over India in a Warming Environment", Science, 1 December 2006:Vol. 314. no. 5804, pp. 1442 - 1445 DOI: 10.1126/science.1132027

Dave's Landslide blog has some great discussions of the flooding and destruction wrought by the terrible monsoon rains this year in Pakistan, India, Afghanistan, and China.

Donations urgently needed
The massive humanitarian crisis in Pakistan requires a huge response by the international community. Wunderblogger Dr. Ricky Rood, author of our Climate Change Blog, has a friend working in Pakistan who underscored the desperate situation there:

This is the worst natural disaster in the history of Pakistan in terms of number of people and area affected. Although not as many people have been killed as in the 2005 earthquake, we have already nearly 900,000 displaced persons thus far just in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. Crops are destroyed; shops, hotels, and other business have simply been swept away in Swat, which had just this year been cleared of Taliban and was on the way to recovery; and districts closer to Peshawar and parts of Peshawar district are still, or perhaps again after yesterday/today, under water. After the immediate emergency response, it will be years of rebuilding to replace what has been lost and to start to develop again. I know you have the power to control the weather, so if you cold give us a week or two without more rain at least we could keep the helicopters flying and give people a chance to go to their homes, recover what might still be there, set up tents if we can get enough to them, and start to clean up."

She gave the following recommendations for charities that do work in the flood-ravaged zone, and are effective at getting aid to those who need it the most:

Doctors Without Borders

The International Red Cross

MERLIN medical relief charity

The mobile giving service mGive allows one to text the word "SWAT" to 50555. The text will result in a $10 donation to the UN Refugee Agency (UNHCR) Pakistan Flood Relief Effort.

She mentioned that it is better to send money to the organizations doing the relief work than to try to organize shipments of goods.


Figure 2. Morning radar image of 94L from the Key West radar.

94L
A 1010 mb low pressure system (94L) near the Florida Keys is generating disorganized heavy thunderstorms over Florida and the adjacent waters, and could become a tropical or subtropical depression as early as Wednesday. Current Key West radar shows the rotation of the storm, but the thunderstorm activity has not yet organized into low-level spiral bands. A few areas in the Keys and extreme South Florida have seen 1 - 2 inches of rain thus far from 94L. Wind shear is currently a moderate 10 - 20 knots over 94L, and water temperatures are very warm, 30 - 31°C. Water vapor satellite imagery shows that 94L is forming beneath an upper-level low with plenty of dry air, and there is a substantial flow of dry, continental air wrapping into 94L. This dry air is retarding the development of 94L, and may force the storm to organize into a subtropical storm instead of a tropical storm. A subtropical storm typically has a large, cloud free center of circulation, with very heavy thunderstorm activity in a band removed at least 100 miles from the center. The difference between a subtropical storm and a tropical storm is not that important as far as the winds they can generate, but tropical storms generate more rain. There is no such thing as a subtropical hurricane. If a subtropical storm intensifies enough to have hurricane force winds, than it must have become fully tropical. It usually takes at least two days for a subtropical storm to make the transition to a tropical storm.

Forecast for 94L
The latest SHIPS model forecast predicts that wind shear will stay in the moderate range, 10 - 20 knots, over the Gulf of Mexico this week. The storm's main problem will be dry air, and I don't expect 94L to undergo rapid development. Most of the models bring 94L ashore over Louisiana by Thursday, though the GFDL model predicts 94L could stall off the coast and not make landfall until Friday. If 94L does make landfall Thursday, it is unlikely to be a hurricane, due to all the dry air aloft in the Gulf. However, the GFDL model is predicting that the 1-day delay in landfall to Friday will allow 94L enough time to grow fully tropical and intensify into a Category 1 hurricane. I think this solution is unlikely. Storms that get their start underneath a cold, dry, upper-level low very rarely attain hurricane strength in three days. A 40 - 50 mph tropical or subtropical storm at landfall Thursday or Friday is a much more reasonable forecast.

93L
A tropical wave (Invest 93) in the middle Atlantic Ocean is close to tropical depression status. The disturbance has a well-defined surface circulation, but only a limited amount of heavy thunderstorm activity, thanks to dry air and wind shear of 10 - 20 knots affecting it due to a large upper-level low pressure system to the west. Wind shear is expected to stay in the moderate range, 10 - 20 knots, over the next four days, which is low enough that 93L could become a tropical depression at any time during that period. NHC is giving 93L a 60% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Thursday morning. The GFS, GFDL, and HWRF models predict 93L will develop, and the GFDL forecasts that the storm will become a hurricane. A strong trough of low pressure moving across the central Atlantic is recurving 93L to the north, and the system should only be a concern to shipping interests. None of the reliable computer models are forecasting tropical cyclone development in the Atlantic over the next seven days, other than for 93L and 94L.

Moscow hits 99°F again today
Temperatures at Moscow's Domodedovo airport hit 37°C (99°F) today, the 28th day in row that temperatures have exceeded 30°C (86°F) in Moscow. The average high temperature for August 10 is 21°C (69°F). Moscow's high temperature have averaged 15°C (27°F) above average for the first ten days of August--a truly extraordinary anomaly. Smog and smoke from wildfires continued to blanket the city today, with the Russian Meteorological Agency reporting that pollution due to carbon monoxide, nitrogen dioxide, ozone, and hydrocarbons exceeding the safe limit by factors of 1.2 - 2.2. Air pollution levels peaked at 6.5 times the safe level on Saturday. As I reported in yesterday's post, the heat wave has likely killed at least 15,000 people in Russia so far. There is some slight relief in sight--the latest forecast for Moscow calls for high temperatures of 31 - 33°C (88 - 91°F) Wednesday though Sunday--still 20°F above normal, but better than the 27°F above normal so far this month.

"Hurricane Haven" airing again this afternoon
Tune into another airing of my live Internet radio show, "Hurricane Haven", at 4pm EDT today. Listeners will be able to call in and ask questions. The call in number is 415-983-2634, or you can post a question in the comments area on my blog during the show. You can also email the questions to me today before the show: jmasters@wunderground.com. Be sure to include "Hurricane Haven question" in the subject line. Some topics I'll cover today on the show:

1) Invest 94 and 93
2) A look ahead at the coming two weeks
3) Status of La Niña

Today's show will be about 30 minutes, and you can tune in at http://www.wunderground.com/wxradio/wubroadcast.h tml. The show will be recorded and stored as a podcast.

Jeff Masters
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2401. Orcasystems 01:18 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
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2402. earthlydragonfly 01:18 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Here is a shot I got from TD5 last night

Cool I just realized it was put in the approvers Choice category on this site. WoooHoooo



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2403. LADobeLady 01:18 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting angiest:
No no, stormtop is back?


Well carp is that written in stone?
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2405. alaina1085 01:18 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting earthlydragonfly:
Here is a shot I got from TD5 last night

Cool I just realized it was put in the approvers Choice category on this site. WoooHoooo




Freakin AWESOME!
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2406. OpusDei 01:19 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting angiest:


Well, in this case SST's are well more than enough, some 10-12 C higher than the minimum threshold. Atmospheric conditions and time seem to be the inhibiting factors here.

Of course, those incredibly hot SSTs look shallow.

Exactly, decent SSTs are necessary for some development, however to get to the point where SSTs present an upper bound on WS (or lowerbound on pressure), we must see env. conditions favorable.
Opus
2407. blsealevel 01:19 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
alaina1085
yea but you got to remember thats just one model
never follow just one model at least thats what they say anyway
but we are surly going to get something from it
hope it dont get to bad for ya.
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2408. JLPR2 01:19 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting earthlydragonfly:
Here is a shot I got from TD5 last night

Cool I just realized it was put in the approvers Choice category on this site. WoooHoooo





its been there for awhile XD
Congrats!
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2409. weatherwart 01:19 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting earthlydragonfly:
Here is a shot I got from TD5 last night

Cool I just realized it was put in the approvers Choice category on this site. WoooHoooo





Oooo! Outstanding image!
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2410. MiamiHurricanes09 01:19 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting Hurricanes101:
where can I find the tropical wave tracking that everyone has been talking about lately

were 93L and the area east of the Islands one tropical wave at one point or were they always separate?
You mean the pouches? Like PGI25L and stuff.
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2411. angiest 01:19 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting LADobeLady:


Well carp is that written in stone?


I'm not quoting, but it should be obvious who I have in mind...
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2412. FloridaToz 01:19 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
First post ever, but avid follower. I respect many on this board for their knowledge and insight. Question: Does it not seem that so far this season these systems have been awfully weak and/or faced with very hostile environments and thus, are not forming into anything but weak tropical storms? Not to jinx anything, I just read how right the water and other factors are and nothing is taking advantage of it. Comments appreciated.
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2413. MechEngMet 01:19 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting Patrap:


I dont forecast. Im a Hobbyist,observer.
Always follow the NHC advisories and your Local Emg Mgt.
But my feeling is we've seen this scenario many times and if conditions allow,things can change quickly.


Pat, That's why I'm here lurking (mostly) tonight. I notice lots of people discussing turtle stew recipes among other things, and with respect the Blog don't have time for that stuff tonight. Right now SELA needs to keep a close eye on this one. Not time to panic, but be fully informed. In my 40+ years here I've seen them bloom and change and even catch Nash by surprise. Thank you for your vigilance in these matters. That is all.

For the rest of you: 70002 checking in and represent'n. No thanks to the Tequella, I'm a Bourbon guy. Now back to lurking, and watching the Blog Experts for any signs of changes. (Like the ULL dissipating is NOT a good sign.)

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2414. NewBdoBdo 01:20 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Hello Jlp09550
Sorry to hear about your grandmother..Hope she gets well soon. At least she will be in a good place if this depression gets stronger and moves closer to us.
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2415. earthlydragonfly 01:20 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting JLPR2:


its been there for awhile XD
Congrats!


The approvers are so nice... I just got back from Dinner....
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2417. NewBdoBdo 01:21 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
2402..Nice shot Earthlydragonfly!
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2418. earthlydragonfly 01:21 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting alaina1085:

Freakin AWESOME!


Thank you Alaina
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2419. Tazmanian 01:21 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
we could have TD 6 befor the end of the day
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2420. doorman79 01:21 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
hello all,
i've been lurking for 4 years now. couldnt help my self Hanna "who is ya mom". We always say howz ya mom an dem. ponchatoula boy here. Hope this thing stays calm!!!!!!!!
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2421. JLPR2 01:21 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting earthlydragonfly:


The approvers are so nice... I just got back from Dinner....


It's always a nice surprise to get one of those. :)
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2422. jlp09550 01:22 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Convection starting to fire near the center.

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2423. TOMSEFLA 01:22 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
sat pic no much tonight?
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2424. alaina1085 01:23 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting blsealevel:
alaina1085
yea but you got to remember thats just one model
never follow just one model at least thats what they say anyway
but we are surly going to get something from it
hope it dont get to bad for ya.

Yea I been around long enough to know that. :) Good Lookin out tho.
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2425. jlp09550 01:23 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting NewBdoBdo:
Hello Jlp09550
Sorry to hear about your grandmother..Hope she gets well soon. At least she will be in a good place if this depression gets stronger and moves closer to us.


Yes, and thanks! :)
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2426. Hurricanes101 01:23 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
You mean the pouches? Like PGI25L and stuff.


yes, trying to prove to someone that 93L and the wave by 49W were two different tropical waves and that 93L did not separate from the wave at 49W
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2427. ElConando 01:24 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Certainly getting as much rain from TD 5 as Bonnie that's for sure.
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2428. muddertracker 01:25 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Where is the closed low? I'm not seeing it.
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2429. stormhank 01:25 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
anyone got a link to the gfdl model run site?? the site i use must be down... showin blank screen
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2430. MiamiHurricanes09 01:26 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting Hurricanes101:


yes, trying to prove to someone that 93L and the wave by 49W were two different tropical waves and that 93L did not separate from the wave at 49W
Here's the CIMSS site: Link.

And here's the Naval Postgraduate School one: Link.
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2431. jlp09550 01:26 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting stormhank:
anyone got a link to the gfdl model run site?? the site i use must be down... showin blank screen


Link
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2432. Chicklit 01:27 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Hiya


A little blustery here in ECFL due to TD5 tonight, but actually very pleasant.

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2433. JLPR2 01:27 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting Hurricanes101:


yes, trying to prove to someone that 93L and the wave by 49W were two different tropical waves and that 93L did not separate from the wave at 49W


Link
The wave related to 93L is the one entering Caribbean, now go and prove them wrong!
XD

*Ah I was too slow!* :\
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2434. pottery 01:27 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting ElConando:
Certainly getting as much rain from TD 5 as Bonnie that's for sure.

Stay dry, Bud...
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2436. MiamiHurricanes09 01:28 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting stormhank:
anyone got a link to the gfdl model run site?? the site i use must be down... showin blank screen
Link.
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2437. jlp09550 01:29 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting tacoman:
LOOK FOR A HURRICANE WATCH TO GO UP ON THE SE LOUISIANA COAST FROM MORGAN CITY TO BILOXI MISSISSIPPI SOMETIME TOMORROW...PESSONALLY I THINK WE HAVE DANIELLE ALREADY SHE IS REALLY WINDING UP..ITS NOT OUT OF THYE QUESTION IF DANIELLE STALLS AND COME ASHORE FRIDAY SHE COULD BE APPROACHING CAT 2 STRENGTH...PEOPLE THIS IS A SLEEPER DO NOT LET YOUR GUARD DOWN..ILL HAVE MORE FROM MY WEATHER OFFICE AT 11PM.....


Hmm, your caps make you seem more like a wishcaster than anything else.. just sayin'.
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2438. will45 01:29 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting stormhank:
anyone got a link to the gfdl model run site?? the site i use must be down... showin blank screen


Link
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2439. sflweatherguy 01:29 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
getting more rain and squally weather from td 5 even though its over 300 miles from me than Bonnie that came right over!
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2442. scott39 01:30 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Here's the CIMSS site: Link.

And here's the Naval Postgraduate School one: Link.
How many hours until the ULL doesnt have any effect on TD5? Also, It looks very moist around TD5, why isnt the convection stronger around the center? Thanks
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2443. Chicklit 01:31 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Tacoman, Chill. This is the reality as of 8 o'clock:
...SPECIAL FEATURES...
THE BROAD SURFACE LOW IN THE SE GULF OF MEXICO WAS UPGRADED TO TROPICAL DEPRESSION FIVE AS OF 2330 UTC. T.D. FIVE IS CENTERED NEAR 26.0N 84.1W OR ABOUT 225 NM SSE OF APALACHICOLA FLORIDA AND ABOUT 325 NM SE OF THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER MOVING NW AT 5 KT. ESTIMATED CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 1007 MB.
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WIND SPEED IS 30 KT WITH GUSTS TO 40 KT. CLUSTERS OF SCATTERED SHOWERS/ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS COVER A BROAD AREA E OF 91W OVER THE FLORIDA...CUBA...AND THE N YUCATAN PENINSULA.

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2445. JLPR2 01:32 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting Chicklit:
Hiya


A little blustery here in ECFL due to TD5 tonight, but actually very pleasant.



that TW inland is making me go hmm


Looks very nice.
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2447. Chicklit 01:32 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
The only ones who get to post in caps IMO is the NHC.
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2448. CCkid00 01:33 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting alaina1085:

That graph puts this sucka right ova me!

where are you? i'm in Denham Springs and it is coming right at us.
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2449. will45 01:33 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
Quoting scott39:
How many hours until the ULL doesnt have any effect on TD5? Also, It looks very moist around TD5, why isnt the convection stronger around the center? Thanks


May be competing centers
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2450. msgambler 01:33 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
So from what I'm reading they should move all warnings out of AL area. We may not even get more than a sprinkle out of this.
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2451. doorman79 01:34 AM GMT del 11 Agosto 2010    
anyone else having problems with the CIMSS. Hasn't updated since 1800. tia
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