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Storms of My Grandchildren by Dr. James Hansen
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 11:34 PM GMT del 26 Luglio 2010 +9
"Storms of My Grandchildren: The Truth About the Coming Climate Catastrophe and Our Last Chance to Save Humanity" is NASA climate change scientist Dr. James Hansen's first book. Dr. Hansen is arguably the most visible and well-respected climate change scientist in the world, and has headed the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York City since 1981. He is also an adjunct professor in the Department of Earth and Environmental Sciences at Columbia University. Dr. Hansen greatly raised awareness of the threat of global warming during his Congressional testimony during the record hot summer of 1988, and issued one of the first-ever climate model predictions of global warming (see an analysis here to see how his 1988 prediction did.) In 2009, Dr. Hansen was awarded the Carl-Gustaf Rossby Research Medal, the highest honor bestowed by the American Meteorological Society, for his "outstanding contributions to climate modeling, understanding climate change forcings and sensitivity, and for clear communication of climate science in the public arena."

Storms of My Grandchildren focuses on the key concepts of the science of climate change, told through Hansen's personal experiences as a key player in field's scientific advancements and political dramas over the past 40 years. Dr. Hansen's writing style is very straight-forward and understandable, and he clearly explains the scientific concepts involved in a friendly way that anyone with a high school level science education can understand. I did not find any scientific errors in his book. However, some of his explanations are too long-winded, and the book is probably too long, at 274 pages. Nevertheless, Storms of My Grandchildren is a must-read, due to the importance of the subject matter and who is writing it. Hansen is not a fancy writer. He comes across as a plain Iowan who happened to stumble into the field of climate change and discovered things he had to speak out about. And he does plenty of speaking out in his book.

James Hansen vs. Richard Lindzen
Dr. Hansen's book opens with an interesting chapter on his participation in four meetings of Vice President Dick Cheney's cabinet-level Climate Task Force in 2001. It seems that the Bush Administration was prepared to let Dr. Hansen's views on climate change influence policy. However, Dr. Richard Lindzen, whom Hansen describes as "the dean of of global warming contrarians", was also present at the meetings. Dr.Lindzen was able to confuse the task force members enough so that they never took Dr. Hansen's views seriously. Hansen observes that "U.S. policies regarding carbon dioxide during the Bush-Cheney administration seem to have been based on, or at a minimum, congruent with, Lindzen's perspective." Hansen asserts that Lindzen was able to do this by acting more like a lawyer than a scientist: "He and other contrarians tend to act like lawyers defending a client, presenting only arguments that favor their client. This is in direct contradiction to...the scientific method." Hansen also comments that he asked Lindzen what he thought of the link between smoking and cancer, since Lindzen had been a witness for the tobacco industry decades earlier. Lindzen "began rattling off all the problems with the data relating smoking to health problems, which was closely analogous to his views of climate data."

Alarmism
Global warming contrarians often dismiss scientists such a Dr. Hansen as "alarmists" who concoct fearsome stories about climate change in order to get research funding. Dr. Lindzen made this accusation at Cheney's Climate Task Force in 2001. However, Dr. Hansen notes that "in 1981 I lost funding for research on the climate effects of carbon dioxide because the Energy Department was displeased with a paper, 'Climate Impact of Increasing Carbon Dioxide,' I had published in Science magazine. The paper made a number of predictions for the 21st century, including 'opening of the fabled Northwest Passage', which the Energy Department considered to be alarmist but which have since proven to be accurate." If you read Dr. Hansen's book and listen to his lectures, it is clear that he is not an alarmist out to get more research funding by hyping the dangers of global warming. Hansen says in his book that "my basic nature nature is very placid, even comfortably stolid", and that nature comes through very clearly in Storms of My Grandchildren. Hansen's writings express a quiet determination to plainly set forth the scientific truth on climate change. He has surprisingly few angry words towards the politicians, lobbyists, and scientists intent on distorting the scientific truth.

The science of climate change
The bulk of Storms of My Grandchildren is devoted to explanations of the science of climate change. Hansen's greatest concern is disintegration of the gerat ice sheets in Greenland and West Antarctica causing sea level rise: "Once the ice sheets begin to rapidly disintegrate, sea level would be continuously changing for centuries. Coastal cities would become impractical to maintain." Hansen is concerned that evidence from past climate periods show that the massive ice sheets that cover Greenland and Antarctica can melt quickly, with large changes within a century. For example, sea level at the end of the most recent Ice Age, 13,000 - 14,000 years ago, rose at a rate of 3 - 5 meters (10 - 17 feet) per century for several centuries. Hansen is convinced that just a 1.7 -2°C warming, which would likely result if we stabilize CO2 at 450 ppm, would be a "disaster scenario" that would trigger rapid disintegration of the ice sheets and disastrous rises in sea level. Hansen advocates stabilizing CO2 at 350 ppm (we are currently at 390 ppm, with a rate of increase of 2 ppm per year.)

Another of Hansen's main concerns is the extinction of species. He notes that studies of more than 1,000 species of plants, animals, and insects have found an average migration rate towards the poles due to climate warming in the last half of the 20th century to be four miles per decade. "That is not fast enough. During the past thirty years the lines marking the regions in which a given average temperature prevails (isotherms) have been moving poleward at a rate of about thirty-five miles per decade. If greenhouse gases continue to increase at business-as-usual rates, then the rate of isotherm movement will double in this century to at least seventy miles per decade."

Hansen's other main concern is the release of large amounts of methane gas stored in sea-floor sediments in the form of methane hydrates. If ocean temperatures warm according to predictions, the higher temperatures at the sea floor may be enough to destabilize the methane hydrate sediments and release huge quantities of methane into the atmosphere. Methane is a greenhouse gas 20 - 25 times more potent than carbon dioxide.

Solutions to the climate change problem
Dr. Hansen is a controversial figure, since he has stepped outside his field of expertise and become an activist in promoting solutions to the climate change problem. He devotes a chapter called "An Honest, Effective Path" in the book to this. His main theme is that we need to tax fossil fuels using a "fee-and-dividend" approach. All of the tax money collected would be distributed uniformly to the public. This carbon tax would gradually rise, giving people time to adjust their lifestyle, choice of vehicle, home insulation, etc. Those who do better at reducing their fossil fuel use will receive more in the dividend than they will pay in the added costs of the products they buy. The approach is straightforward and does not require a large bureaucracy, but currently has little political support. Hansen is vehemently opposed to the approach that has the most political support, "Cap-and-trade": "Cap-and-trade is what governments and the people in alligator shoes (the lobbyists for special interests) are trying to foist on you. Whoops. As an objective scientist I should delete such personal opinions, to at least flag them. But I am sixty-eight years old, and I am fed up with the way things work in Washington." Hansen also promotes an overlooked type of nuclear power, "fast" reactors with liquid metal coolant that produce far less nuclear waste and are much more efficient than conventional nuclear reactors.

Quotes from the book
"Humanity treads today on a slippery slope. As we continue to pump greenhouse gases into the air, we move onto a steeper, even more slippery incline. We seem oblivious to the danger--unaware how close we may be to a situation in which a catastrophic slip becomes practically unavoidable, a slip where we suddenly lose all control and are pulled into a torrential stream that hurls us over a precipice to our demise."

"In order for a democracy to function well, the public needs to be honestly informed. But the undue influence of special interests and government greenwash pose formidable barriers to a well-informed public. Without a well-informed public, humanity itself and all species on the planet are threatened."

"Of course by 2005 I was well aware that the NASA Office of Public Affairs had become an office of propaganda. In 2004, I learned that NASA press releases related to global warming were sent to the White House, where they were edited to appear less serious or discarded entirely."

"If we let special interests rule, my grandchildren and yours will pay the price."

"The role of money in our capitals is the biggest problem for democracy and for the planet."

"The problem with asking people to pledge to reduce their fossil fuel use is that even if lots of people do, one effect is reduced demand for fossil fuel and thus a lower price--making it easier for someone else to burn...it is necessary for people to reduce their emissions, but it is not sufficient if the government does not adopt policies that cause much of the fossil fuels to be left in the ground permanently."

"I have argued that it is time to 'draw a line in the sand' and demand no new coal plants."

"The present situation is analogous to that faced by Lincoln with slavery and Churchill with Nazism--the time for compromises and appeasement is over."

"Humans are beginning to hammer the climate system with a forcing more than an order of magnitude more powerful than the forcings that nature employed."

"Once ice sheet disintegration begins in earnest, our grandchildren will live the rest of their lives in a chaotic transition period."

"After the ice is gone, would Earth proceed to the Venus syndrome, a runaway greenhouse effect that would destroy all life on the planet, perhaps permanently? While that is difficult to say based on present information, I've come to conclude that if we burn all reserves of oil, gas, and coal, there is a substantial chance we will initiate the runaway greenhouse. If we also burn the tar sands and tar shale, I believe the Venus syndrome is a dead certainty."

"One suggestion I have for now: Support Bill McKibben and his organization 350.org. It is the most effective and responsible leadership in the public struggle for climate justice."

Commentary
James Hansen understands the Earth's climate as well as any person alive, and his concern about where our climate is headed makes Storms of My Grandchildren a must-read for everyone who cares about the world their grandchildren will inherit. Storms of My Grandchildren retails for $16.50 at Amazon.com. Dr. Hansen's web site is http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/.

Jeff Masters
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901. Michale 01:12 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
Quoting angiest:


Come now, we all know the sun has no effect on climate.

(And that *was* being facetious) :D


Now THAT was funny... :D

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902. hydrus 01:14 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
Quoting CybrTeddy:
Good morning MH09.
Good Morning C.T. Look at the GEM model.if you have time. It shows a strong storm near Puerto Rico in about 6 days...Link.
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903. IKE 01:14 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
Quoting scott39:
Hey Ike, Could you post me a link to the ECMWF model you use?


See post 776.


Quoting msgambler:
Do you really think it would help Ike?


Some people, it probably would.
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904. MiamiHurricanes09 01:14 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
MJO basically stuck in octant 3 and trying to move back to where all the HEAT is focused; octant 1 and 2.

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905. CybrTeddy 01:16 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
@StormW, it is thought that Venus once had oceans itself, but its proximity to the sun caused all the water to evaporate quickly, causing a runaway greenhouse effect because you got an ENTIRE planet's ocean evaporating.
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906. IKE 01:16 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    



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907. aquak9 01:16 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
can not be confused with the bathroom scale, which not only is not as accurate but can be adjusted up and down,

so THAT'S what's wrong with my bathroom scale!!!
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908. CybrTeddy 01:16 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
Quoting hydrus:
Good Morning C.T. Look at the GEM model.if you have time. It shows a strong storm near Puerto Rico in about 6 days...Link.


Like the ECMWF, take that with a grain of salt. Anything beyond 80 hours to me has suspect to it.
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909. A4Guy 01:17 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
a week ago or so, someone posted a great set of charts from a weather site that showed current year's storm activity by month vs. climatology, and vs. 2005. They were really good charts - done in a "stair-step" - not bar charts. I cannot remember the site name...anyone have any idea what I am referring to?
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910. Neapolitan 01:17 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
Quoting PensacolaDoug:
Here's JB this morn.

TUESDAY 5:30 AM
ACTUAL SATELLITE DATA LINK SO THERE IS NO MISTAKE ON TEMPS!

Given the issuances that this is the warmest year ever, we can easily see by comparing the actual temps of 1998 to this year that this is not true.

Here is the link for all the OBJECTIVE satellite temps since we started this method, which of course is more objective than adjusted temps from pre satellite eras. You can look for yourself

http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/t2lt/uahncdc.lt

Go back to the the year 1998 and stack the temps up against 2010.

Remember, in the history of the planet, the NON BIASED measurement of temps can be compared to you starting to weigh yourself every day.. a week ago. That you get up every morning and one morning find yourself 1/10th of a pound heavier is not a big deal. Whats more, the reports on the warmest ever are like weighing yourself on your bathroom scale and seeing one thing, then going over and weighing yourself in the gym and seeing the other. The satellite era temps are the doctors office (even more accurate.. wrestlers scale) way of measuring and can not be confused with the bathroom scale, which not only is not as accurate but can be adjusted up and down, depending on what the user is up too!

ciao for now


I wonder whether JB noticed the trend line at the very bottom of the page?

Globe: heating up
Land: heating up
Oceans: heating up
Northern hemisphere: heating up
Southern hemisphere: heating up
North Pole: heating up
Continental US: heating up

(The only outlier is the South Pole, where temps have declined a mere 7/100ths of a degree, as opposed to, say, the North Pole, where they've gone up by nearly half a degree.)

Bastardi can't even be truthful with himself, can he?

BTW: 2010 isn't over yet. The first three months in the NH were cold, which makes it even more astounding that second quarter temps have been hot enough to offset a chilly start.
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911. largeeyes 01:17 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
Storms of my Grandchildren is also $10.12 in paperback or $14.85 for Kindle(??)
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913. PensacolaDoug 01:18 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
http://www.accuweather.com/video/260789099001/monday-global-ice-temp-report.asp
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914. IKE 01:19 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:
CPC Weekly MJO Update

Excerpt:

Overview


• The MJO persisted during the past week with the enhanced convective phase now
centered over the eastern Indian Ocean.

• Dynamical model MJO index forecasts are mixed on whether the MJO signal will
continue to propagate across Indonesia over the next two weeks.

• Based on recent observations, statistical MJO forecasts and MJO dynamical forecast
tools, the MJO is expected to continue during the next two weeks with the enhanced
convective phase over the Maritime Continent by the end of the period.

• There are enhanced chances for elevated tropical rainfall across India and the
Maritime continent during the next 1-2 weeks.


Over around the western Pacific.
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916. MiamiHurricanes09 01:20 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
00z CMC developing 2 African waves in the run, you can also see a stalled front along the eastern seaboard.

*If the MJO gets back into our basin (particularly the Caribbean) when these waves get into the Caribbean expect them to try and pull a trick up from their sleeves.

144 hours.
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917. MiamiHurricanes09 01:22 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
Quoting IKE:


Over around the western Pacific.
Look at the latest MJO graphs, clearly the upward motion is meandering towards the Atlantic.
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918. CybrTeddy 01:23 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
00z CMC developing 2 African waves in the run, you can also see a stalled front along the eastern seaboard.

*If the MJO gets back into our basin (particularly the Caribbean) when these waves get into the Caribbean expect them to try and pull a trick up from their sleeves.

144 hours.


The one at the back end is probably the ECMWF's system it has at 00z approaching the Caribbean.
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920. CaneHunter031472 01:24 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
Dr. Masters, I recognize this is your blog and if I'm here I need to just suck up whetever you write in it. This is by far the best weather blog and website available, but your rethoric about AGW just takes points out of your credibility sorry to point that out. As an engineer I must tell you that those quotes you refer to, are not only idiotic, but counterproductive to humanity's progress. What does the writer means with Climate Justice? and If he is one of the responsible for stopping new coal plants development, How does he suggest we power let say, our homes, our computers, you know the ones we use to pay you 10.00 to 15.00 dollars for the membership on this site? you WU would not exist if it wasn't for electricity which in many cases is produced by those coal plants. Do you suggest we move into Nuclear power? I would agree with that, but wait Evironmentalist have stopped that as well. So what can we do? How will we the culprit of the problem will save the planet? Maybe solar power? yeah that's a very nice flowery proposition, if we take away the fact that they are prohibitely expensive and that the manufacturing process generates far more dangerous chemicals as a bi product than coal or oil. I feel like Galileo must have felt back in the day when the church condemmed him for his beliefs, but it is happening now backwards. AGW is a new religion which have declared Jihad on humanity's progress, why I don't know maybe to promote thier own personal agenda Eg. Al Gare's net worth increasing exponentially. If he was so concerned about sea levels rising, why is it that he bought a Beach Front property in Cali? I mean didn't he see the movie 2012? If we are going to take his movie an inconvenient truth seriously, then we should take 2012 movie seriously as well they are both sicence FICTION.
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923. palmpt 01:25 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
Quoting StormW:
Do you know, some folks still think that Oswald was the "lone gunman"?

You are so right about that!
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924. MiamiHurricanes09 01:25 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


The one at the back end is probably the ECMWF's system it has at 00z approaching the Caribbean.
Unlikely, the one shown on the ECMWF is at 240 hours, the one on the CMC is at 144 hours.
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925. CybrTeddy 01:26 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
Quoting StormW:
Surprise!



How bout that? Upward MJO can't even break fully into octant 3 and is doing a 180 again towards octant 2. I think the UKME is going to verify.

Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
00z CMC developing 2 African waves in the run, you can also see a stalled front along the eastern seaboard.

*If the MJO gets back into our basin (particularly the Caribbean) when these waves get into the Caribbean expect them to try and pull a trick up from their sleeves.

144 hours.


I'd like to point out, while the ECMWF is very long range out it has been developing a system since July 24th, so its starting to show that must needed consistency.
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927. scott39 01:26 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
Is the Carribean and GOM going to be the target areas all season?
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928. HarleyStormDude52 01:26 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
Big "Blob" in the central GOM building!!
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929. deautschlandfutbol 01:27 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
So storm and miami thanks for all the great weather stuff. I never got to finish college but I really wish I was in the weather field right now I'm so ready for the hurricane season to get going so I can learn more. So storm and miam u really think florida is in for it this year? I think this will rival 2004 or maybe even 2005 ya never know what mother nature has in store for us this year. I don't like where the a/b high is this year tho.
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930. angiest 01:29 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
Quoting HarleyStormDude52:
Big "Blob" in the central GOM building!!


Is that yesterday's Yucatan blob or something from that pesky ULL?
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933. MiamiHurricanes09 01:33 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
Quoting deautschlandfutbol:
So storm and miami thanks for all the great weather stuff. I never got to finish college but I really wish I was in the weather field right now I'm so ready for the hurricane season to get going so I can learn more. So storm and miam u really think florida is in for it this year? I think this will rival 2004 or maybe even 2005 ya never know what mother nature has in store for us this year. I don't like where the a/b high is this year tho.
Florida is always at a risk every year of a hurricane, but this year those chances are significantly higher. Some ominous signs like the negative NAO and La Nina point to a Florida year. I suggest you ask Levi32 when he signs on later today for a more in-depth explanation.
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934. TampaSpin 01:33 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
935. JonasNJ 01:35 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
The only effective way to stop global warming is a gradual reduction of the world population through birth control and family planning. If our grandchildren inherit a world of 3 billion instead of 10, they will be alright.
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936. angiest 01:35 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
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937. ackee 01:37 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
anyone notice that CMC GFS and ECMWF all hinting possible tropical development near Lesser Antilles
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938. IKE 01:37 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Look at the latest MJO graphs, clearly the upward motion is meandering towards the Atlantic.


Clearly?

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939. deautschlandfutbol 01:39 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
Yeah storm it just really kills me tho I have so much potential to be a good met and I have so much to show but no college education. Ya know what I do for a living sell race tickets in daytona but everyone at work tells me all the time what are u doing here u know ya weather go back to school but its not that easy for me now I have two kids and I'm almost 30 and I'm having a lot of health issues right now. The only thing that gets a lot off my mind is the weather. I just really wish I could show someone what I got and get into a weather field but for now I will stay a amateur met and just have fun. I love this blog tho. It sucks cuz I'm on my blackberry I can't wait to get my internet back. Oh and alaina u got mail.
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940. angiest 01:39 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
Quoting ackee:
anyone notice that CMC GFS and ECMWF all hinting possible tropical development near Lesser Antilles


We were discussing ECMWF development last night. Didn't know the CMC and GFS had joined it.
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941. BobinTampa 01:39 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
Am I the only one who thinks that it's a bit over the top for a respected scientist to have the words "Our last chance to save humanity" in his book title?

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943. TampaSpin 01:40 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Look at the latest MJO graphs, clearly the upward motion is meandering towards the Atlantic.


CLEARLY......that for sure does not show anything Clearly.....Stop telling other bloggers there post is wrong.....when you don't state facts CLEARLY!
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944. IKE 01:40 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
Quoting StormW:


Clearly.


I'll anxiously await it.
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945. MiamiHurricanes09 01:41 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
Quoting IKE:


Clearly?

Yes, clearly.

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946. JonasNJ 01:41 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
"The present situation is analogous to that faced by Lincoln with slavery and Churchill with Nazism--the time for compromises and appeasement is over."

How did I miss this?! Are you serious?

Statements like those are how you lose the smart, reasonable people in your movement. What an insult to the victims of the Nazi Holocaust.
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947. CybrTeddy 01:42 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
Quoting ackee:
anyone notice that CMC GFS and ECMWF all hinting possible tropical development near Lesser Antilles


Correct, the ECMWF has been very consistent too.. for 4 days now.
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948. MiamiHurricanes09 01:42 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
Quoting TampaSpin:


CLEARLY......that for sure does not show anything Clearly.....Stop telling other bloggers there post is wrong.....when you don't state facts CLEARLY!
StormW clearly agrees with me too. Look at post 945, it is obvious that the upward motion is moving back towards octant 2.
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949. BFG308 01:42 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
Just to throw my 2 cents in about GW...

The real problem with global warming is the socio-political upheavel if/when climate change happens.

If we talk about it now and plan for it, normal people will freak out. (Conservative argument)

If we don't talk about it or plan for it, people will DIE. (Liberal argument)

I'm somewhere in between. We need to do something, but, when and what I'm not sure
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950. CybrTeddy 01:43 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
Quoting TampaSpin:


CLEARLY......that for sure does not show anything Clearly.....Stop telling other bloggers there post is wrong.....when you don't state facts CLEARLY!


Nothings ever truly clear but it does look to be attempting to go back to octant 2 again just like the last few times its tried to leave it. How you doing Tampa btw?
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951. Michale 01:44 PM GMT del 27 Luglio 2010    
Quoting BobinTampa:
Am I the only one who thinks that it's a bit over the top for a respected scientist to have the words "Our last chance to save humanity" in his book title?"



Sounds like a movie tagline...

That was kinda my point with my initial post..

If the facts are scary enough without any embellishing, then why the embellishment??

"Enthusiasm about science is commendable. Enthusiasm IN science should be avoided at all costs."
-Commander Spock, MY ENEMY MY ALLY

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Jeff co-founded the Weather Underground in 1995 while working on his Ph.D. He flew with the NOAA Hurricane Hunters from 1986-1990.

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