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TSR predicts very active hurricane season; Atlantic May MDR SSTs warmest on record
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 01:51 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010 +4
The British private forecasting firm Tropical Storm Risk, Inc. (TSR) has joined the ranks of NOAA and Colorado State University in calling for an exceptionally active 2010 Atlantic hurricane season. The latest TSR forecast issued June 4 calls for 17.7 named storms, 9.5 hurricanes, 4.4 intense hurricanes, and an Accumulated Cyclone Energy (ACE) 181% of average. These numbers are much above the 50-year average of 10 named storms, 6 hurricanes, and 2 intense hurricanes, and are an increase from their April forecast of 16.3 named storms, 8.5 hurricanes, and 4 intense hurricanes. The TSR June forecast numbers are the highest they've ever gone for in the eleven years they've been issuing Atlantic hurricane season forecasts. TSR predicts a 85-90% chance that activity will rank in the top 1/3 of years historically, and a 85% chance that U.S. landfalling activity will be above average. TSR rates their skill level as 20-34% higher than a "no-skill" forecast made using climatology, though an independent assessment by the National Hurricane Center (Figure 1) gives them somewhat lower skill numbers.

TSR projects that 5.7 named storms will hit the U.S., with 2.5 of these being hurricanes. The averages from the 1950-2009 climatology are 3.2 named storms and 1.5 hurricanes. They rate their skill at making these June forecasts for U.S. landfalls at 10 - 17% higher than a "no-skill" forecast made using climatology. In the Lesser Antilles Islands of the Caribbean, TSR projects 1.8 named storms, 0.8 of these being hurricanes. Climatology is 1.1 named storms and 0.5 hurricanes.

TSR cites two main factors for their forecast of an exceptionally active season:

1) Their model predicts that sea surface temperatures will be 0.6°C warmer than average in August and September over the Main Development Region (MDR) for Atlantic hurricanes. This is the area between 10°N and 20°N, between the coast of Africa and Central America (20°W - 80°W). It is called the Main Development Region because virtually all African waves originate in this region. These African waves account for 85% of all Atlantic major hurricanes and 60% of all named storms. When SSTs in the MDR are much above average during hurricane season, a very active season typically results (if there is no El Niño event present.)

2) Their model predicts slower than normal trade winds in August and September over the Main Development Region (MDR). Trade winds are forecast to be 1.2 meters per second (about 2.7 mph) slower than average. This would create more spin for developing storms, and allow the oceans to warm up, due to reduced mixing of cold water from the depths and lower evaporational cooling.


Figure 1. Comparison of the percent improvement over climatology for May and August seasonal hurricane forecasts for the Atlantic from NOAA, CSU and tropicalstormrisk.com (TSR) from 1999-2009 (May) and 1998-2009 (August), using the Mean Squared Error. Image credit: Verification of 12 years of NOAA seasonal hurricane forecasts, National Hurricane Center.

2010 hurricane season forecasts from CSU and NOAA
NOAA's 2010 Atlantic hurricane season forecast, issued May 27, called for 18.5 named storms, 11 hurricanes, 5 major hurricanes, and an ACE index 210% of normal (using the mid-point of their range of numbers.) The 2010 Atlantic hurricane season forecast from Colorado State University (CSU) issued on June 2 called for 18 named storms, 10 hurricanes, and 5 intense hurricanes. So, the consensus forecast from NOAA, CSU, and TSR is 18 named storms, 10 hurricanes, and 5 intense hurricanes. The June forecast numbers from all three groups were the highest they've ever gone for in their history of issuing Atlantic hurricane season forecasts.

May SSTs in the tropical Atlantic set a new record
Sea Surface Temperatures (SSTs) in the Atlantic's Main Development Region for hurricanes had their warmest May on record, according to an analysis of historical SST data from the UK Hadley Center. SST data goes back to 1850, though there is much missing data before 1910 and during WWI and WWII. SSTs in the Main Development Region (10°N to 20°N and 20°W to 80°W) were a remarkable 1.51°C above average during May. This is the fourth straight record warm month, and the warmest anomaly measured for any month. The previous record warmest anomaly for the Atlantic MDR was 1.46°C, set last month. Third place goes to June 2005 and March 2010, with a 1.26°C anomaly. As I explained in detail in a post on record February SSTs in the Atlantic, the Arctic Oscillation (AO) and its close cousin, the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO), are largely to blame for the record SSTs, though global warming and Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation (AMO) also play a role. However, trade winds over the tropical Atlantic have increased to near-normal speeds over the past week, since the Bermuda-Azores High has strengthened to near-normal pressures. The Bermuda-Azores High and its associated trade winds are forecast to increase to above average strength during mid-June, according to the latest runs of the GFS model. This means that Atlantic SST anomalies have probably peaked for the year, and we can anticipate that the June SST anomaly in the MDR will not be as great as the May anomaly--and may even fall below the June record set in 2005.


Figure 2. The departure of sea surface temperature (SST) from average for June 10, 2010. Image credit: NOAA/NESDIS.

Oil spill update
Light southeast or south winds of 5 - 15 knots will blow today through Tuesday, according to the latest marine forecast from NOAA. These winds will keep oil near the beaches of Alabama, Mississippi, and the extreme western Florida Panhandle, according to the latest trajectory forecasts from NOAA and the State of Louisiana. The latest ocean current forecasts from the NOAA HYCOM model are not predicting eastward-moving ocean currents along the Florida Panhandle coast this week, and it is unlikely that surface oil will affect areas of Florida east of Pensacola. Long range surface wind forecasts from the GFS model for the period 8 - 14 days from now show a southeasterly wind regime, which would prevent any further progress of the oil eastwards along the Florida Panhandle, and would tend to bring significant amounts of oil back to the shores of eastern Louisiana next week. If you spot oil, send in your report to http://www.gulfcoastspill.com/, whose mission is to help the Gulf Coast recovery by creating a daily record of the oil spill.


Figure 3. The oil spill as imaged on June 9, 2010, by NOAA's Terra satellite. The spill appears highly reflective in the sunglint portion of the image.

Oil spill resources
My post, What a hurricane would do the Deepwater Horizon oil spill
NOAA's fact sheet on Hurricanes and the Oil Spill
My post on the Southwest Florida "Forbidden Zone" where surface oil will rarely go
My post on what oil might do to a hurricane
Oil trajectory forecasts from NOAA
Gulf Oil Blog from the UGA Department of Marine Sciences
Oil Spill Academic Task Force
University of South Florida Ocean Circulation Group oil spill forecasts
Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) imagery from the University of Miami

I'll have a new post on Friday. The tropical Atlantic is quiet right now, with no models predicting tropical cyclone development over the next seven days.

Jeff Masters
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1. Stormchaser2007 01:55 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
Looks like the consensus is 18 storms.

Thanks for the update.
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2. hurricane556 01:55 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
Thanks Dr. Masters. Great post.
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3. Patrap 01:55 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
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4. Patrap 01:58 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
Wowsa..

Remain calm..

..follow your plan.

Oil is well.




SST data goes back to 1850, though there is much missing data before 1910 and during WWI and WWII. SSTs in the Main Development Region (10N to 20N and 20W to 8W) were a remarkable 1.51 C above average during May. This is the fourth straight record warm month, and the warmest anomaly measured for any month. The previous record warmest anomaly for the Atlantic MDR was 1.46 C, set last month. Third place goes to June 2005 and March 2010, with a 1.26 C anomaly.
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5. fuzed 01:58 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:
Looks like the consensus is 18 storms.

Thanks for the update.


And how many broken oil derricks?!
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6. Stormchaser2007 02:03 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
Latest ensembles have the NAO going down....

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7. CagedNitro 02:03 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
Thanks for the update Dr. Masters. Here in Vero Beach, FL we will be keeping our eyes open.
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8. helove2trac 02:03 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
has dr steve lyons retired
9. kingy 02:07 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
the oil pic shows a ton of oil just a few miles off the coast. Only a tiny percentage of the oil has hit the beaches so far, there must be some terrible pollution bound to come to the beaches this summer. They reckon that the release of the high-res video files will allow a true peak flow-rate to be calculated in the next couple of days.

BP are planning to burn as much as they can, they are collecting 15 thousand barrels a day right now but who knows how much is still leaking.
12. Chucktown 02:12 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
Quoting sleetman1:
dr steve was sent to greenland he cant screw up the weather over there..


Dr. Lyons is the meteorologist in charge at the NWS in San Angelo, TX. Trust me, TV weather is not always fun.
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13. Clearwater1 02:14 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
Question for the group. How come hot air rising from the GOM and Caribbean waters doesn't create a sort of "Mini" La Nina and create shear over the middle and eastern Atlantic? Can the the Gulf and caribbean get TOO hot and help hinder development by creating higher winds aloft?
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14. catastropheadjuster 02:17 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
Quoting WeatherLoverinMiami:
Sorry but off topic but thats a nice Avatar



WeatherLoverinMiami:I have boxerss to you dog looks like my sugarbutt.
Sheri
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15. Stormchaser2007 02:18 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
2010:



2005:
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16. indianrivguy 02:20 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
Thanks Doc!
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17. twhcracker 02:23 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
Quoting Clearwater1:
Question for the group. How come hot air rising from the GOM and Caribbean waters doesn't create a sort of "Mini" La Nina and create shear over the middle and eastern Atlantic? Can the the Gulf and caribbean get TOO hot and help hinder development by creating higher winds aloft?


thats very interesting. and i wonder if the oil is making the air over the gulf hotter.
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18. Stormchaser2007 02:24 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
5/10/10:


6/10/10:
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20. Drakoen 02:25 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:
2010:



2005:


More depth in the anomalously warm waters this year than in 2005.
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21. twhcracker 02:26 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
#3. Pat, what is that a picture of? Please tell me its not oil. if it is it shows it almost at panama city beach and at ft walton!
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22. aquak9 02:26 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
stole from BeachFoxx's blog, this is horrifying. Even comparing organic vs BigAg farming, spots destroying the crops, and killing birds. Near mouth of Mississippi River.

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23. Stormchaser2007 02:28 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
Quoting Drakoen:


More depth in the anomalously warm waters this year than in 2005.


Pretty interesting. Only way it can go is up now...
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24. atmoaggie 02:29 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
Quoting Chucktown:


Dr. Lyons is the meteorologist in charge at the NWS in San Angelo, TX. Trust me, TV weather is not always fun.

That post didn't require a response, Chuck...most of us know where Dr. Lyons went.

(And, TV weather? I literally chose not to do that...though I don't have the prettiest mug, either.)
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25. atmoaggie 02:31 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:
2010:



2005:

THCP plots are pointless to compare...great big changes to that product in Oct 2008...

Clearly the resolution changed. Does it now lean warmer, cooler, the same? I don't think anyone knows but the couple of folks directly involved in creating that product.

Did it before infer the 26C depth to shallow, to deep?

Comparisons need to have large grains of salt taken as a chaser.
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26. Stormchaser2007 02:32 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
Just updated:

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27. TampaSpin 02:32 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
DR. Masters you should have named this update......."GET READY! GET SET! GO!"
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28. Stormchaser2007 02:33 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
Quoting atmoaggie:

THCP plots are pointless to compare...great big changes to that product in Oct 2008...


Yeah...noticed that.

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30. TampaSpin 02:38 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
Quoting aquak9:
stole from BeachFoxx's blog, this is horrifying. Even comparing organic vs BigAg farming, spots destroying the crops, and killing birds. Near mouth of Mississippi River.



What is the reason for the Toxins they are using other than to hide the oil under the surface of the water so we really can't see! Our Government is as guilty as they are for allowing this to occur. It is killing all plant and life within and will kill the above eventually. WHAT ARE WE DOING AND WHY! $$$$$$$$$$$
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31. aspectre 02:40 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
One Last Time using this format. It's gotten too unwieldy.
Welcome to Definitely*More Fun Than Two ExxonValdezes Day (* definitely new info at bottom)
Or yet another reason why the BP CEO's pronouncements makes ya grind yer teeth and growl.

In 2005, TropicalStorm Arlene reached near-hurricane strength in the Gulf of Mexico on June10th. And passed near what is now the DeepHorizon spill area before making landfall at the extreme western end of the Florida panhandle on June11th.
Comparisons with the day after TropicalStorm Arlene began spinning up on 8June2005

9Jun2010

9Jun2005

9June2010

9Jun2005

9June2010


Other major US-affecting offshore blowouts averaged 8,000to10,000barrels per day over 10days at Santa Barbara, and 11,000to12,000barrels per day over 295days at Ixtoc I.
Initial spill rate from Ixtoc I into the Gulf of Mexico was ~30,000barrels per day.
The ExxonValdez wreck spilled ~11million gallons or ~262,000barrels in total.

Three different methodologies used by UnitedStatesGeologicalSurvey assessment teams have independently arrived at a minimum spill rate of 12,000barrels per day:
the surface survey team came up with 15,500plus-or-minus3500 barrels per day;
the plume velocity team came up with 18,500plus-or-minus6500 barrels per day;
and the third team's study remains incomplete and its methodology unannounced.

Using the agreed-upon 12,000barrels per day minimum, the DeepwaterHorizon will have spilled two times as much as the ExxonValdez a bit after noon on 3June2010
Using the 17,000barrels per day average of two studies, the DeepwaterHorizon will have spilled three times as much as the ExxonValdez before dawn on 6June2010
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Somewhat New Info - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
But cutting the BlowoutPreventer's riser increased the flow rate by ~20%.
So adding 20% extra to the old numbers:
the new minimum flow rate would be 14,400barrels per day;
and the new average flow rate would be 20,400barrels per day.
Subtracting the 10,000barrels per day being recovered:
some amount between 4400to10,400barrels per day is still spilling into the Gulf...
...and I refuse to think about pessimistic projections.

BritishPetroleum's ChiefExecutiveOfficer claims that they "are recovering most of the crude oil" that is flowing out of the well. However, BP has not announced that they actually know the flow rate -- as opposed to their previous official "it's not important enough to bother finding out" -- or what that flow rate is.
And until they do make such knowledge public, I can only wonder how their CEO knows that more than half of the crude oil is being recovered, can only assume that he is engaging in wishful thinking.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Definitely NEW INFO - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
"Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen reported that BP's collection from the ruptured well...had kept 14,800 barrels (621,000 gallons) of oil from flowing into the Gulf in the past 24 hours, and...BP said it collected 42,500 barrels (1.8 million gallons) of oil...in the past four days."

That BritishPetroleum is now collecting 14,800barrels per day AND that there is still more crude oil gushing into the Gulf proves that the well had been spilling more than the agreed-upon minimum of the USGS estimates.
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32. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 02:40 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
thanks for update doc good read
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33. CyclonicVoyage 02:41 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
The Hadley Cell is going to be quite productive this year.

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34. MississippiWx 02:41 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
I'm a little skeptical of the Doc's opinion on the trade winds increasing to above average for the rest of the month. With a strongly negative NAO burst in the middle of the month through the end of the month, I don't see the trade winds increasing much, if any.
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35. hurricanejunky 02:41 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    


Cyclone Oz's latest video update...morning all!
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36. MississippiWx 02:41 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:
5/10/10:


6/10/10:


That's insane.
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37. WaterWitch11 02:45 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
i will be the first to admit that i have become pretty "crazy" about the oil spill. i notice that i get flipped out about it very easily. i don't mean to. yesterday i saw the webcam and it didn't look right. it had glowing orange in the middle and red streaks at the bottom. i have now convinced myself that the red streaks were a ribbon but the orange glowing in the middle of the plume i can't figure out and it's driving me crazy. i found this on youtube it's from last saturday and it's not as crazy looking as what i saw around 5pm yesterday.

can someone tell me what the orange is?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nb2ifKX9oM&feature=related

this is beginning to make me feel truly crazy person and makes me want to cry. i just know that the spill is not going to be contained for months and it breaks my heart.
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38. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 02:47 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    




compare maps jun 10 2005 2009 2010
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39. IKE 02:48 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
A hurricane in the GOM will deposit some of that oil within the next 1-3 months.


The tropical Atlantic is quiet right now, with no models predicting tropical cyclone development over the next seven days....from Dr. Masters.


...quiet continues for now.
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40. sarahjola 02:48 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
Quoting aquak9:
stole from BeachFoxx's blog, this is horrifying. Even comparing organic vs BigAg farming, spots destroying the crops, and killing birds. Near mouth of Mississippi River.

all my plants have that too. i have tomato and bell pepper plants and they have brown burns and and i noticed white dusty stuff the other day on a tree branch that fell in my pool. a piece of a tree branch. when i went to get the branch out it went under and the white stuff came off and floated. when i tried to pick it up it separated. i thought that the brown spots were just from the sun. it has been shining hard lately and it has been really hot.
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41. aspectre 02:51 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
blog1502post2879 Orcasystems: "BP Again Changes Oil Containment Timeline ... BP has changed its tune once again on the precise timing of when it believes it will be able to contain the oil gushing from its blown-out well in the Gulf of Mexico.
BP said on Wednesday it is dialing back a prediction by its chief operating officer that the leaking oil would be reduced to a "relative trickle" by next week. It now says it will take more time to reach that point
....."

Looks like I wrote a relevant commentary ahead of time (and didn't bother to post earlier cuz the conversation had drifted far away by the time I finished)

2112 aspectre "BP...captured about 15,000 barrels...of oil Tuesday...close to...its processing limit...
...the shuttle tanker in the Gulf of Mexico...can process about 15,000 barrels of oil per day.
BP...to bring in new ships and equipment to bring that capacity up to 28,000 barrels...per day."
2114 Chicklet "so how many millions of gallons per day has it been leaking?"

I think anybody who has been following what I've written on the topic will agree that I've been consistently conservative -- using official figures, giving the benefit of the doubt to those in charge of capping&cleanup, etc -- while expressing my doubts only subtly, ala posting the Ixtoc spill-rate along with the various official rates. I will continue to be conservative in my writings.
So first, a bit more from the same article.
Asked...whether the recovery effort...was collecting more oil than was leaking, [CoastGuard Admiral] Allen said "I certainly hope so" but added "I'm not going to declare victory on anything until we have absolute numbers [for the oil flow rate]."
Well, the article tells me several things have a HIGH probability of being true:

1) The spill rate was appreciably over 16,666barrels per day after the BlowOutPreventer's pipe was cut.
BritishPetroleum's ChiefExecutiveOfficer had set a capture goal of 90%. 15,000barrels is 90% of 16,666barrels.
Ordering in new equipment to handle more than 15,000barrels per day shows that BP accepts that the flow rate is appreciably more than 16,666barrels per day.
The absolute minimum amount still spilling into the Gulf is appreciably more than 1666barrels per day.

2) The spill rate had been appreciably more than 13,888barrels per day before the BoP pipe was cut. Cutting that pipe increased the flow rate by 20% or 1/5th. So the new flow rate became 6/5ths times the old flow rate. Conversely, the old flow rate is 5/6ths of the new flow rate.
The new flow rate is appreciably more than than 16,666 barrels per day,
so the old flow rate had been appreciably more than 5/6ths of 16,666barrels per day.

3) Assuming that BP is "coming loaded for bear" after having had to admit that the on-site containment&recovery ship is too small and being forced to hire a new one with larger recovery capacity, my (deliberately conservative) new estimates are:
The probable minimum presentday flow rate is between 18,666to21,500barrels per day.
Before the riser was cut, the probable minimum spill rate had been between 15,555to17,966barrels per day.
The flow rate minus what is being captured, ie the probable minimum presentday spill rate is between 3,666to6,500barrels per day.
Those are the minimums because I can't be sure that BP had intended to be "coming loaded for bear" when they hired the new 28,000barrels per day containment&recovery ship.

4) USGS admin obviously also lowballed their official estimate by averaging the surface survey team's 12,000to19,000barrels per day with the plume velocity team's 12,000to25,000barrels per day into just the lowest estimate... which is why I had earlier chosen to post both of the measurement teams' results rather than implicitly endorse the obviously wrong official "average".
ie Like the Bureau of Land Management and the Department of Minerals Management, USGS is apparently being run by "revolving*door" career bureaucrats who put serving business interests FAR above serving the public.

* "revolving door" refers to shifting between private sector jobs in an industry to public sector jobs overseeing that industy, and vice versa. Repeat as often as necessary to bump up ones pay.
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42. hurricanejunky 02:54 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
Good morning everyone!
Serious request, can you please all submit your weather stories on my blog or via WUmail? I'm putting together a "your stories" section on my weather website and I'd like to hear all of the great weather experiences that many of you on here have had. You can include images too if you like. I don't want to advertise the site on here and get banned so I thought my blog or WUmail would be the best way. Thanks!
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43. TampaSpin 02:57 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
Quoting aspectre:
2879 Orcasystems: "BP Again Changes Oil Containment Timeline ... BP has changed its tune once again on the precise timing of when it believes it will be able to contain the oil gushing from its blown-out well in the Gulf of Mexico.
BP said on Wednesday it is dialing back a prediction by its chief operating officer that the leaking oil would be reduced to a "relative trickle" by next week. It now says it will take more time to reach that point
....."

Looks like I wrote a relevant commentary ahead of time (and didn't bother to post earlier cuz the conversation had drifted far away by the time I finished)

2112 aspectre "BP...captured about 15,000 barrels...of oil Tuesday...close to...its processing limit...
...the shuttle tanker in the Gulf of Mexico...can process about 15,000 barrels of oil per day.
BP...to bring in new ships and equipment to bring that capacity up to 28,000 barrels...per day."
2114 Chicklet "so how many millions of gallons per day has it been leaking?"

I think anybody who has been following what I've written on the topic will agree that I've been consistently conservative -- using official figures, giving the benefit of the doubt to those in charge of capping&cleanup, etc -- while expressing my doubts only subtly, ala posting the Ixtoc spill-rate along with the various official rates. I will continue to be conservative in my writings.
So first, a bit more from the same article.
Asked...whether the recovery effort...was collecting more oil than was leaking, [CoastGuard Admiral] Allen said "I certainly hope so" but added "I'm not going to declare victory on anything until we have absolute numbers [for the oil flow rate]."
Well, the article tells me several things have a HIGH probability of being true:

1) The spill rate was appreciably over 16,666barrels per day after the BlowOutPreventer's pipe was cut.
BritishPetroleum's ChiefExecutiveOfficer had set a capture goal of 90%. 15,000barrels is 90% of 16,666barrels.
Ordering in new equipment to handle more than 15,000barrels per day shows that BP accepts that the flow rate is appreciably more than 16,666barrels per day.
The absolute minimum amount still spilling into the Gulf is appreciably more than 1666barrels per day.

2) The spill rate had been appreciably more than 13,888barrels per day before recovery began. Cutting the pipe near the BoP increased the flow rate by 20% or 1/5th. So the new flow rate became 6/5ths times the old flow rate. Conversely, the old flow rate is 5/6ths of the new flow rate.
The new flow rate is appreciably more than than 16,666 barrels per day,
so the old flow rate had been appreciably more than 5/6ths of 16,666barrels per day.

3) Assuming that BP is "coming loaded for bear" after having had to admit that the on-site containment&recovery ship is too small and being forced to hire a new one with larger recovery capacity, my (deliberately conservative) new estimates are:
The probable minimum presentday flow rate is between 18,666to21,500barrels per day.
Before the riser was cut, the probable minimum spill rate had been between 15,555to17,966barrels per day.
The flow rate minus what is being captured, ie the probable minimum presentday spill rate is between 3,666to6,500barrels per day.
Those are the minimums because I can't be sure that BP had intended to be "coming loaded for bear" when they hired the new 28,000barrels per day containment&recovery ship.

4) USGS admin obviously also lowballed their official estimate by averaging the surface survey team's 12,000to19,000barrels per day with the plume velocity team's 12,000to25,000barrels per day into just the lowest estimate... which is why I had earlier chosen to post both survey results rather than endorse the obviously wrong official "average".
ie Like the Bureau of Land Management and the Bureau of Minerals Management, USGS is apparently being run by "revolving*door" career bureaucrats who put serving business interests FAR above serving the public.

* "revolving door" refers to shifting between private sector jobs in an industry to public sector jobs overseeing that industy, and vice versa. Repeat as often as necessary to bump up ones pay.


I don't believe anything they say anymore.....i would like to see proof of the collection of oil they claim. We have not seen any video feed from the top of the collection container to show us anything that i have seen. Has anyone seen the Collection Container and why have they not gloatted to show the success of this.....they way they operated thus far wouldn't you think they would show such a feed for positive feedback, instead nothing. JUST MY OPINION!
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44. HyDrO420 02:58 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
Quoting WaterWitch11:
i will be the first to admit that i have become pretty "crazy" about the oil spill. i notice that i get flipped out about it very easily. i don't mean to. yesterday i saw the webcam and it didn't look right. it had glowing orange in the middle and red streaks at the bottom. i have now convinced myself that the red streaks were a ribbon but the orange glowing in the middle of the plume i can't figure out and it's driving me crazy. i found this on youtube it's from last saturday and it's not as crazy looking as what i saw around 5pm yesterday.

can someone tell me what the orange is?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nb2ifKX9oM&feature=related

this is beginning to make me feel truly crazy person and makes me want to cry. i just know that the spill is not going to be contained for months and it breaks my heart.


I think what your see'n is the riser through the oil.. key word there is think tho.
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45. RitaEvac 02:59 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
What kind of current is north of the Yucatan? awfully cooler on the north side. Does it every year.

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46. Floodman 03:00 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
Quoting catastropheadjuster:
Quoting WeatherLoverinMiami:
Sorry but off topic but thats a nice Avatar



WeatherLoverinMiami:I have boxerss to you dog looks like my sugarbutt.
Sheri


Umm..wow...Sheri, uh...nevermind
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47. unf97 03:01 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
Good morning to everyone on the blog!

Thanks Dr. Masters for your update.
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48. hurricanejunky 03:01 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
Quoting Floodman:


Umm..wow...Sheri, uh...nevermind


LOL!
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50. NRAamy 03:04 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
Jerry...I thought the same thing!!!!!

;)
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51. NRAamy 03:05 PM GMT del 10 Giugno 2010    
SQUAWK!!!!!!
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