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98L and Fred-ex pose little threat
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 03:21 PM GMT del 20 Settembre 2009 +1
A tropical disturbance (98L), is located midway between Africa and the Lesser Antilles Islands. This disturbance has lost most of its heavy thunderstorm activity over the past day. Last night's QuikSCAT pass showed an elongated circulation, with top winds around 30 mph. Wind shear is moderate, 10 - 15 knots, and Sea Surface Temperatures are 28°C, which is about 2°C above the 26°C threshold needed to support a tropical cyclone. There is a large amount of dry air to the north and west of 98L, and this dry air has been instrumental in disrupting development of 98L over the weekend.

Wind shear over 98L is expected to remain in the moderate range, 10 - 15 knots, through Tuesday evening, according to the SHIPS model. This may allow the storm to organize into a tropical depression, assuming it can fight off the dry air that surrounds it. Tuesday through Thursday, the SHIPS model predicts shear will increase to the high range, 20 - 25 knots, so it is unlikely 98L will become anything stronger than a weak tropical storm over the coming 5-day period. The models predict that a strong trough of low pressure will turn 98L to the northwest and then north beginning on Monday, with the result that 98L misses the Lesser Antilles Islands by at least 500 miles. NHC is giving 98L a medium (30 - 50%) chance of developing into a tropical depression by Tuesday. It does not appear that 98L will ever threaten any land areas. The GFDL and NOGAPS models develop 98L into a tropical storm; the other models do not.


Figure 1. Morning visible satellite image of Fred-ex (located at the tail end of a cold front draped over the Atlantic), and 98L.

Fred-ex
The remains of Hurricane Fred are still spinning away about 600 miles east of the Georgia-Florida border. Fred-ex's circulation has become ill-defined over the past day, and there has been no increase in heavy thunderstorm activity. High wind shear of 20 - 30 knots is affecting the storm, and there is also quite a bit of dry air interfering with development. The high wind shear and dry air will continue to affect Fred-ex over the next three days, as the storm moves west-northwest at 10 mph. Most of the models show the moisture from Fred-ex moving ashore between northern Florida and North Carolina Tuesday or Wednesday. None of the models develop Fred-ex, and I'm not expecting it to cause any flooding problems when it moves ashore.

Twenty years ago today
On September 20, 1989, Hurricane Hugo continued its steady northwest march at 15 mph towards the Southeast U.S., brushing the Bahama Islands along the way. Wind shear diminished, allowing the hurricane to intensify back to a major Category 3 hurricane with 115 mph winds. Hurricane watches and warnings had not yet been posted for the U.S. coast, but at noon on September 20, Mayor Riley of Charleston went on the air, telling residents of the city that Hugo was a killer. There was a very good chance that Hugo would be South Carolina's worst disaster this century, he said, with a storm surge up to fifteen feet high. Now, while the weather was good and the storm still far away, was the time to board up and get out.


Figure 2. AVHRR visible satellite image of Hurricane Hugo taken on September 20, 1989. Wind shear had diminished, allowing Hugo to intensify to a Category 3 storm with 115 mph winds. Image credit: Google Earth rendition of the NOAA HURSAT data base.

South Carolinans paid attention. Within an hour, residents jammed hardware stores and supermarkets. Traffic on roads away from the coast swelled as people scrambled to flee the arrival of the first major hurricane to strike South Carolina in thirty years--since Category 3 Hurricane Gracie of 1959 slammed into the coast south of Charleston.

At 6 pm, it became official: the Southeast U.S. coast from St. Augustine to Cape Hatteras had been placed under a hurricane watch, meaning that hurricane conditions could be expected within 36 hours. The torrent of evacuees leaving the coast swelled, reaching a million people in all.

In the U.S. Virgin Islands, the aftermath of Hugo became desperate as widespread looting erupted on St. Croix, forcing President Bush to send 1,100 troops. Wunderground member Mike Steers was there, and relates this story: "Surviving the aftermath was the real challenge. The lack of power, water, communications of any kind, and the crime and looting was the real test. After about a week of digging out of the remains of the house and neighborhood I was able to venture out on my motorcycle to see what had become of my job. On the way, I personally witnessed the looting and lawlessness. I even saw a National Guard truck backed up to what was a appliance store and the guardsmen were helping themselves to washers and dryers. Never mind that there was no power to run them. When I got to the seaplane ramp, I saw the total destruction that is depicted in one of the photos I sent. On my way home, there was a small local grocery store I had usually gone to, and I was going to stop in and see how the owners were doing. There was a band of youths in the process of carrying out everything that was not nailed down. From the back, out ran a rastaman with a machete saying he wanted my motorcycle. Needless to say, I gunned it and got back to my house as soon as possible. My neighbors and I set up our own armed 24-hour security checkpoint to protect ourselves. It was about a week later that the first of the giant C-5s flew over, sent by President Bush to start to restore order..."


Figure 3. Newspaper headline from the Virgin Islands Daily News after Hurricane Hugo, detailing the looting problems on St. Croix. Image scanned in by Mike Steers.

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351. Tazmanian 08:59 PM GMT del 20 Settembre 2009    
Quoting iceman55:



low sheer in oct and nov wow





here 2010



vary un likey
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355. Drakoen 09:03 PM GMT del 20 Settembre 2009    
According to the CFS the the eastern U.S. and especially southeastern U.S. will have below average temperatures.
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356. Cavin Rawlins 09:04 PM GMT del 20 Settembre 2009    
Quoting iceman55:
i guess UK Met Office Atlantic Hurricane Season was rigth their said 6 named storms this year imo


They are extremely accurate - predicted 25 named storms in June 2005, 9 in June 2006, 12 in June 2007, 15 in June 2008.
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359. weathermanwannabe 09:06 PM GMT del 20 Settembre 2009    
Quoting iceman55:
i guess UK Met Office Atlantic Hurricane Season was rigth their said 6 named storms this year imo


Afternoon Folks.....Nice to see the tropics quiet for change in September...I hope that we get at least one more storm this season, hopefully a mild TS or fish storm, or we'll never hear the end of "I told you so's" from Stormt based upon a lucky guess..... :)
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361. Drakoen 09:07 PM GMT del 20 Settembre 2009    
Hopefully the UKMET office will be given much more attention in regards to the Glosea forecast model which is the basis of their predictions.
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362. jurakantaino 09:07 PM GMT del 20 Settembre 2009    
Quoting Grothar:
Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Iceland, former Greenland are all considered Scandinavian. Because they share a common ancestry, languange, and history. Finland is considered part of Scandinavia, geographically, but they speak an unrelated language, different, ethnicity an culture. They are not Scandinavian by race. When different peoples from the region meet and unsure of the origin, one may ask "Are you Scandinavian" They will normally reply "yes, I am Norwegian, Swedish, etc. No one is offended because the distinction is made for clarity not racial or ethnic segregation. Try going to Italy and tell a northern Italian you are from the south of Italy. It is the same all over the world.

I am German, Norwegian, French, Italian and Greek. If someone makes an ethnic remark. The better watch out. So I would be considered a Teutonic-Scandinavian-Franco-Latin. Relax everybody. We are all just people!! That is the bottom line. Enjoy your ethnicity don't spend time defending it. TO ANYBODY!!!
I'm glad I started a discussion , and it came out by the way many of the bloggers here refers to other nations that are affected by hurricanes besides the US. Just clarify some points of view in a time that there is nothing going on weather wise. Is always nice to learn something new.
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363. Tazmanian 09:09 PM GMT del 20 Settembre 2009    
Quoting iceman55:
Tazmanian how ?




2010 is not even here yet
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364. Grothar 09:09 PM GMT del 20 Settembre 2009    
Quoting jurakantaino:
I'm glad I started a discussion , and it came out by the way many of the bloggers here refers to other nations that are affected by hurricanes besides the US. Just clarify some points of view in a time that there is nothing going on weather wise. Is always nice to learn something new.


By the way, did you ever look up Pancho Gonzales like I asked you the other night? The tennis player?
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365. Cavin Rawlins 09:09 PM GMT del 20 Settembre 2009    
Quoting Hurricane009:
YES!!!!


Read post 349
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366. Grothar 09:11 PM GMT del 20 Settembre 2009    
Quoting WeatherStudent:


Agreed. You write very well, by the way!


Thank you WS. Very nice compliment. I try.
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371. Cavin Rawlins 09:24 PM GMT del 20 Settembre 2009    
Quoting iceman55:


^^^^
500mb heights




you have everything even accupro. :)
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374. swampliliy 09:27 PM GMT del 20 Settembre 2009    
Evening all!
Heavy rain here at the moment in Tampa, Fl area. Probably last 5 mins then go to hot, hazy and humid again. ;-)
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376. swampliliy 09:29 PM GMT del 20 Settembre 2009    
Hey ICE! How goes it?
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378. Cavin Rawlins 09:32 PM GMT del 20 Settembre 2009    
Quoting iceman55:
I HAVE questions.how good CFS MODELS .??


It has been reliable over the past 2 years. It handles wind shear good but I've seen some inconsistencies in predicting sea surface temperatures. It always seem to be predicting El Ninos.

I've been using it since 2004 and it has come along way
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380. swampliliy 09:36 PM GMT del 20 Settembre 2009    
Quoting iceman55:
swampliliy good .thank for asking :)

Been reading here for quite a while and you've always been polite and courteous that I've seen.
BTW- driven thru Slidell a few times- nice area.
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382. ElConando 09:45 PM GMT del 20 Settembre 2009    
Quoting Drakoen:
According to the CFS the the eastern U.S. and especially southeastern U.S. will have below average temperatures.


Throughout the winter? or in the short term?
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383. aquak9 09:45 PM GMT del 20 Settembre 2009    
009, I'm in Jacksonville, Florida. Just south of Georgia, three miles inland from the Atlantic.
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385. aquak9 09:55 PM GMT del 20 Settembre 2009    
well i think you have a better chance of snow than me! :)
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387. tkeith 10:04 PM GMT del 20 Settembre 2009    
From this mornings discussion...lol

1490. tkeith 8:36 AM CDT on September 20, 2009
Quoting hunkerdown:
they will start the thrashing of the 'Aints at 1:00


LOL...

we'll see...


it was worth lookin that comment up...*chuckles*
it's warm and Breezy here today in NOLA...
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388. BurnedAfterPosting 10:06 PM GMT del 20 Settembre 2009    
Quoting tkeith:
From this mornings discussion...lol

1490. tkeith 8:36 AM CDT on September 20, 2009
Quoting hunkerdown:
they will start the thrashing of the 'Aints at 1:00


LOL...

we'll see...


it was worth lookin that comment up...*chuckles*


yea oops lol

looks like the Eagles got their wings clipped lmao
389. hunkerdown 10:10 PM GMT del 20 Settembre 2009    
Quoting Drakoen:
According to the CFS the the eastern U.S. and especially southeastern U.S. will have below average temperatures.
and if you want to believe that, could they please give an accurate forecast for this week, or better yet, for tomorrow...
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390. hunkerdown 10:11 PM GMT del 20 Settembre 2009    
Quoting canenizzle:


Anyone want to buy a pup? I have 5 left
does it come with the bun, with mustard and onions ?
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391. SLU 10:11 PM GMT del 20 Settembre 2009    
It's been frustratingly hot and dry this season over in the Eastern Caribbean with very few tropical waves in the last 6 weeks or so .. typical el nino year.

*yawn*

What's the el nino/la nina forecast for 2010 like?
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392. hunkerdown 10:13 PM GMT del 20 Settembre 2009    
Quoting BurnedAfterPosting:


yea oops lol

looks like the Eagles got their wings clipped lmao
yeah, who'd of thunk, Kolb playing well but the D stinking up the field. *holds head in shame*
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393. tkeith 10:14 PM GMT del 20 Settembre 2009    
Quoting hunkerdown:
does it come with the bun, with mustard and onions ?


or perhaps some BBQ'd Eagle wings?

:^)
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394. Cavin Rawlins 10:16 PM GMT del 20 Settembre 2009    
SLU,

And its only getting drier since the rainy season will be over by December. This is the driest I've seen this place in a long time.

El Nino conditions expected through Spring 2010.
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396. hunkerdown 10:16 PM GMT del 20 Settembre 2009    
Quoting tkeith:


or perhaps some BBQ'd Eagle wings?

:^)
see, you know nothing about eagles. they need to be prepared like duck. either searing the breast or slow raosting the whole bird. they are a flying bird, the wings are nothing but a bunch of bones...but if thats what you like :)
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398. tkeith 10:18 PM GMT del 20 Settembre 2009    
Quoting hunkerdown:
see, you know nothing about eagles. they need to be prepared like duck. either searing the breast or slow raosting the whole bird. they are a flying bird, the wings are nothing but a bunch of bones...but if thats what you like :)
probably better than "crow"...lol

:)

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399. Cavin Rawlins 10:20 PM GMT del 20 Settembre 2009    
Grothar,

Are you there still
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401. Nimitz 10:22 PM GMT del 20 Settembre 2009    
Quoting aquak9:
009, I'm in Jacksonville, Florida. Just south of Georgia, three miles inland from the Atlantic.


That would make it around Hodges Blvd. I'm in poor mans San Marco.
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