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Claudette hits Florida; Ana approaches Puerto RIco; Bill becomes our first hurricane
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 02:10 PM GMT del 17 Agosto 2009 +6
Tropical Storm Claudette made landfall at about 1:15 am EDT near the eastern end of Santa Rosa Island, just southeast of Fort Walton Beach in Florida. Claudette's top winds were around 50 mph. A Personal Weather Station in Eastpoint, FL recorded sustained winds of 49 mph, gusting to 66 mph last night. So far, the rain from Claudette has had a tough time penetrating inland (Figure 2). Heavy rains of 3 - 4 inches have been confined to a narrow strip of coast, and Claudette is unlikely to cause any major flooding. Apalachicola received just over 4 inches of rain so far from Claudette. Radar animations out of the Florida Panhandle show that heavy rains continue along the coast in association with a main spiral band of Claudette, and these rains will gradually subside today.


Figure 1. Radar reflectivity image of Tropical Storm Claudette as it approached landfall just southeast of Fort Walton Beach shortly after midnight on 8/17/09.

The tropics featured a rare triple threat the past two days--simultaneous named storms beginning with the letters A, B, and C. The last time this occurred was in the slow-starting 1984 hurricane season, when Tropical Storms Arthur, Bertha, and Cesar were all active on September 1. This year's A, B, and C storms all got their names in just a 33 hour span. This is not a record, since in 1995, three tropical storms--Humberto, Iris, and Jerry--got their names in a 27-hour span (thanks to NOAA's Ryan Sharp for looking up this stat).


Figure 2. Total precipitation estimated by radar for Claudette, as of 3:28pm EDT 8/17/09.

Ana not dead yet
Tropical Depression Ana continues to cling to life, and is now approaching landfall in Puerto Rico. Radar animations from the San Juan, Puerto Rico radar show a surface circulation just southeast of the island, with some low-level spiral banding trying to develop to the south. Recent satellite images also show a rejuvenation of the heavy thunderstorm activity near Ana's center, as the storm regroups from being nearly torn apart yesterday. Ana has already dumped up to 4 inches of rain along the north coast of Puerto Rico, according to radar-estimates.

It is unlikely that Ana will survive past today, however, since the storm will move over both Puerto Rico and the rugged terrain of Hispaniola. The high mountains of these islands should act to disrupt the relatively small and fragile circulation of Ana. None of the computer models foresee that Ana will survive passage over Hispaniola. The Dominican Republic can expect 3 - 6 inches of rain from Ana, and Haiti can expect 1 - 3 inches.


Figure 3. Total precipitation estimated by radar from Ana for Puerto Rico.

Bill becomes the first Atlantic hurricane of 2009
Hurricane Bill continues to gather strength, and is now the first hurricane of the 2009 Atlantic hurricane season. An eye has appeared on visible and infrared satellite imagery, and Bill is displaying an impressive symmetry, with plenty of low-level spiral banding.

Wind shear is low, 5 - 10 knots, and is forecast to be in the low range through Wednesday. With Sea Surface Temperatures only 27°C today, substantial intensification may not occur until Tuesday and Wednesday, when SSTs warm to 28 - 29°C and ocean heat content sharply increases. By Thursday, Bill is expected to leave the favorable upper-level wind environment it currently finds itself in, and moderate shear of 15 - 20 knots may limit further intensification.

Water vapor satellite imagery shows that there is a modest trough of low pressure in the upper atmosphere near 50°W longitude, that Bill is currently approaching. All of the computer models except the UKMET predict that this trough will be strong enough to turn Bill more to the northwest so that the hurricane misses the Lesser Antilles Islands. The UKMET predicts the trough will not affect Bill much, and that the hurricane will pass through or just north of the islands on Thursday. For now, the UKMET solution is being discounted, since the trough at 50W appears substantial enough on satellite imagery to be able to turn Bill more to the northwest.

A much larger trough of low pressure is expected to develop along the U.S. East Coast late this week, turning Bill even more to the northwest. Most of the models predict Bill will pass very close to Bermuda on Saturday as a result. The HWRF model predicts Bermuda will receive a direct hit at Category 4 strength. Until Bill interacts with the small trough at 50°W, it is too early to be confident of the potential threat to Bermuda. By Tuesday, we should have a much better idea of the threat. Likewise, I would like to see the UKMET model come around in line with the other models before dismissing the possible threat to the U.S. East Coast. It currently appears that Bill will miss the U.S. East Coast, but that a strike on the Canadian provinces of Newfoundland or Nova Scotia is possible.

I'll have an update Tuesday morning, or possibly this afternoon.

Jeff Masters
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3751. serialteg 07:14 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
looks like the models clear the northern leewards from the windfield
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3752. F5Tornado 07:14 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
Quoting serialteg:


lol

yeah... i guess that makes sense!

red is pretty much universal for intensity, force, stop, danger... and green for go... at least on the western world, we can say (dare we say) the States and it's territories.

So i guess they're shooting for a Red as Intense and greener for less and less.


Or NHC has some hurricane lovers in the bisness.... not that I am......


:D :D :D :D
3753. HurricaneFCast 07:16 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
Quoting TampaSpin:


Low pressure (Bill) cannnot go through HIGH pressure it must go around High pressure. Therefore as Bill moves West the western edge of the High erodes allowing Bill to move up the left side of the High.

(NOT trying to attack your post or anything, just stating the forecast)
The High is forecast to erode towards the west, allowing Bill to move along the eastern side of the eroding ridge, in between the two highs over the northeastern Atlantic.
There's a weakness currently between the two highs that is forecast to erode the eastern side of the western ridge, allowing Bill to turn NW and then N.


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3754. HurricaneFCast 07:17 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
Quoting serialteg:


ok! how did you earn that scholarship? :) grades?

Yep. :)
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3755. HurricaneFCast 07:21 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
Quoting HurricaneFCast:

Bill isn't quite north enough to significantly "feel" the weakness yet, and the weakness isn't strong enough to completely steer Bill. Bill is currently being affected by a few steering mechanisms: He's not being allowed North by the ridge, and he's attempting to move poleward, thus the WNW motion. Until that High moves out of the way, he will not be able to move N or NE, thus he moves as far towards the N as he can, which is WNW at the moment.

(The reason he's trying to move poleward is complicated, involving precession of an object with angular momentum. A Hurricane precesses because of the rotation of the Earth. Since Hurricanes have angular momentum with respect to the Earth's axis, when they gain latitude they experience a conservation of that angular momentum and experience an acceleration to the east. Thus, a Hurricane moving WNW, experiencing a force from the west(A.K.A. an acceleration towards the east) will tend to move NW, N, and then NE until it is forced towards the Poles. When a Hurricane moves towards the Poles the distance to the Earth's axis decreases and it conserves angular momentum by increasing velocity.)


Hurricanman: This is the explanation for why Bill is moving the way he is moving.^^^^^

I also forgot to throw in there the reason he won't move directly towards the weakness is because of that additional high pressure area to the weakness' east. That should build west when the weakness erodes the western ridge towards the east, allowing Bill only a general NW and then N motion...
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3756. homelesswanderer 07:23 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
Quoting HurricaneFCast:

(NOT trying to attack your post or anything, just stating the forecast)
The High is forecast to erode towards the west, allowing Bill to move along the eastern side of the eroding ridge, in between the two highs over the northeastern Atlantic.
There's a weakness currently between the two highs that is forecast to erode the eastern side of the western ridge, allowing Bill to turn NW and then N.




But if he's being pulled toward the ridge to the left how can he go north when the flow around the high is clockwise? O I'm back. lol
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3757. HurricaneFCast 07:25 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
OMG I'm so MAD! Lol I didn't have to waste time with MS paint and my crappy computer handwriting. Look what was on TWC's website, a very simple graphic explaining the same thing:

GRRRR! Oh well, at least the Layer Mean Wind Analyses show the strength of the High pressure areas and the weakness, unlike TWC's graphic. Anyways, there it is...^ ^ ^
>.<
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3758. HurricaneFCast 07:27 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
Quoting homelesswanderer:


But if he's being pulled toward the ridge to the left how can he go north when the flow around the high is clockwise? O I'm back. lol

Because the weakness will erode it enough towards the west that He won't be directly affected by that ridge. In essence, he will be "cushioned" by the weakness, but still forced slightly westward by the eastern ridge that will be moving westward behind the weakness.
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3760. homelesswanderer 07:29 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
So he will be rounding the eastern ridge. Maybe? Sigh but then that doesn't gel with the trough moving it out. Lol I give up.
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3761. HurricaneFCast 07:29 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
Quoting KerryInNOLA:
Chicken snd Egg. Does western edge of high erode because of Bill OR does Bill turn north because western edge of high erodes. I say they feed off each other.

The eastern edge of the western high is going to erode. Let's get that part of the forecast straight!!! (See the Layer Mean Wind Analyses graphics I posted that I painted on with ms paint, or the simple Weather Channel's image that I found later explaining it more simply) Lol! :)
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3762. TampaSpin 07:31 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
Quoting HurricaneFCast:

(NOT trying to attack your post or anything, just stating the forecast)
The High is forecast to erode towards the west, allowing Bill to move along the eastern side of the eroding ridge, in between the two highs over the northeastern Atlantic.
There's a weakness currently between the two highs that is forecast to erode the eastern side of the western ridge, allowing Bill to turn NW and then N.




Don't mean to question your post either but, i do believe you have it wrong. The Western edge of the Bermuda high erodes allowing Bill to go up the Western edge as i Posted....

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3763. HurricaneFCast 07:34 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
Quoting homelesswanderer:
So he will be rounding the eastern ridge. Maybe? Sigh but then that doesn't gel with the trough moving it out. Lol I give up.

Okay. Western Ridge erodes in part due to the weakness currently between the ridges, but also because of a longwave trough exiting the U.S. in about 2-3 days. That high will be gone, and then natural forces (which I explained about angular momentum and the conservation of such momentum causing a Hurricane to move polewards and accelerate (essentially, recurvature)) will help Bill move N and eventually NE. The only questions that remain are: How strong with the longwave trough be? How effective will the weakness be? (I.E. How quickly will the western ridge erode) How strong and how far west will the eastern ridge move once the weakness erodes the western ridge?

Bill should already be moving between the ridges prior to the western ridge becoming fully eroded, it is then that the longwave trough will appear and give Bill a "push" northwards and eventually northeastward. All of this is going to happen, there is no doubt. The only questions that remain are the magnitude of each of these forces. That, and only that, is what will determine when Bill will turn NW, N, and then NE..
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3764. homelesswanderer 07:35 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
Quoting TampaSpin:


Don't mean to question your post either but, i do believe you have it wrong. The Western edge of the Bermuda high erodes allowing Bill to go up the Western edge as i Posted....



THATS what I thought! And I get that the weakness is pulling him north right now. So he will be far enough north to round the western edge of the high being eroded by the trough coming off the coast later. My head hurts. ;)
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3765. HurricaneFCast 07:36 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
Quoting TampaSpin:


Don't mean to question your post either but, i do believe you have it wrong. The Western edge of the Bermuda high erodes allowing Bill to go up the Western edge as i Posted....


That's because the western edge is already eroded.. Lol.. See the very simple and meteorologically accurate Weather Channel's graphic. It explains it ALL very simply. Bill moves between the two highs. The eastern ridge builds westward.
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3766. HurricaneFCast 07:36 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
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3767. TampaSpin 07:37 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
The weakness you have posted 3715 is not the same weakness that Bill will be going through. Bill goes up the Bermuda High Western side not between the Bermuda and the Azores High. Bill misses that opening and takes the next one that opens up in a couple of days.
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3769. homelesswanderer 07:39 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
OOOOOooooooh. That makes sense if the western high just erodes completely. I got it now. And I'll shut up. Lol. Thank you so much. :)
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3770. TampaSpin 07:39 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
Quoting HurricaneFCast:

That's because the western edge is already eroded.. Lol.. See the very simple and meteorologically accurate Weather Channel's graphic. It explains it ALL very simply. Bill moves between the two highs. The eastern ridge builds westward.


Thats a future map your looking at.....not the current one in place.....LOL
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3771. RadarRich 07:42 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
Quoting HurricaneFCast:

Okay. Western Ridge erodes in part due to the weakness currently between the ridges, but also because of a longwave trough exiting the U.S. in about 2-3 days. That high will be gone, and then natural forces (which I explained about angular momentum and the conservation of such momentum causing a Hurricane to move polewards and accelerate (essentially, recurvature)) will help Bill move N and eventually NE. The only questions that remain are: How strong with the longwave trough be? How effective will the weakness be? (I.E. How quickly will the western ridge erode) How strong and how far west will the eastern ridge move once the weakness erodes the western ridge?

Bill should already be moving between the ridges prior to the western ridge becoming fully eroded, it is then that the longwave trough will appear and give Bill a "push" northwards and eventually northeastward. All of this is going to happen, there is no doubt. The only questions that remain are the magnitude of each of these forces. That, and only that, is what will determine when Bill will turn NW, N, and then NE..



OK, enough jargon and coffe, slow it down a tad on the expertise being submitted with your posts. We all get the fact Bill will curve, just tone it down on a few decibals
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3772. HurricaneFCast 07:47 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
Quoting TampaSpin:
The weakness you have posted 3715 is not the same weakness that Bill will be going through. Bill goes up the Bermuda High Western side not between the Bermuda and the Azores High. Bill misses that opening and takes the next one that opens up in a couple of days.

Bill is rounding the western side of the eastern ridge that builds in after the western ridge has eroded. This is what the models forecast, this is what the NHC forecasts, this is what Tim Ballisty (The meteorologist who made that WC graphic) forecasts. I don't see where we are misunderstanding each other here. I think we both know what is happening but are explaining it in different terms. When that western ridge "erodes" it essentially will disappear on those model runs you are posting, either just in a *poof* sort of way, or it will appear to be carried off by a trough. Which in this case is that longwave trough that will be exiting the U.S. coast in 2-3 days. Thus, Bill rounds the western edge of the eastern high, as the weakness initiates the erosion of the western ridge, and the longwave trough completes it.
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3773. TampaSpin 07:48 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
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3774. homelesswanderer 07:48 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
Quoting RadarRich:



OK, enough jargon and coffe, slow it down a tad on the expertise being submitted with your posts. We all get the fact Bill will curve, just tone it down on a few decibals


Lol. Don't come down on him for it. He was trying to help those of us who didn't "get" it. Myself being particulary unscientific of mind. :) And I for one appreciate and applaud his patience.
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3776. HurricaneFCast 07:49 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
Quoting RadarRich:



OK, enough jargon and coffe, slow it down a tad on the expertise being submitted with your posts. We all get the fact Bill will curve, just tone it down on a few decibals

Am I shouting? I don't think I am. Please explain further what you mean.
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3777. RadarRich 07:49 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
On a normal note/post, the remaining parts of Anna may bring some rainy conditions to the Florida keys and SE Florida by Thursday/Friday, and hopefully just hat. Any regeneration or cyclonic rotation hopefully does not occur heading into the GOM. All good with Bill at this point, I believe for any threat to the Easter US coast. Barring any substantial weakness in the projected trough to come into play, we should be ok in the Conus, Bermuda, just needs to be on alert, and keep that ever watchfull eye on his progress
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3778. TampaSpin 07:52 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
Quoting HurricaneFCast:

Bill is rounding the western side of the eastern ridge that builds in after the western ridge has eroded. This is what the models forecast, this is what the NHC forecasts, this is what Tim Ballisty (The meteorologist who made that WC graphic) forecasts. I don't see where we are misunderstanding each other here. I think we both know what is happening but are explaining it in different terms. When that western ridge "erodes" it essentially will disappear on those model runs you are posting, either just in a *poof* sort of way, or it will appear to be carried off by a trough. Which in this case is that longwave trough that will be exiting the U.S. coast in 2-3 days. Thus, Bill rounds the western edge of the eastern high, as the weakness initiates the erosion or the western ridge, and the longwave trough completes it.


Ok LOOK at this loop.....you can see for yourself what i stated...If you look you can see the weakness to the North that is currently in place that Bill feels then the Western edge of the Bermuda High erodes allowing Bill to go up the Western side of the Bermuda High...Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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3779. TampaSpin 07:54 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
Quoting HurricaneFCast:

Am I shouting? I don't think I am. Please explain further what you mean.


I agree we may disagree here but, no harm of anger intended from here...:)
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3780. Walshy 07:54 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
Bill and his eye.

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3781. GetReal 07:55 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
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3782. KoritheMan 07:56 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
Quoting RadarRich:
On a normal note/post, the remaining parts of Anna may bring some rainy conditions to the Florida keys and SE Florida by Thursday/Friday, and hopefully just hat. Any regeneration or cyclonic rotation hopefully does not occur heading into the GOM. All good with Bill at this point, I believe for any threat to the Easter US coast. Barring any substantial weakness in the projected trough to come into play, we should be ok in the Conus, Bermuda, just needs to be on alert, and keep that ever watchfull eye on his progress


Bill could potentially be more powerful than Fabian was if it hits Bermuda.
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3783. F5Tornado 07:56 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
Quoting HurricaneFCast:
OMG I'm so MAD! Lol I didn't have to waste time with MS paint and my crappy computer handwriting. Look what was on TWC's website, a very simple graphic explaining the same thing:

GRRRR! Oh well, at least the Layer Mean Wind Analyses show the strength of the High pressure areas and the weakness, unlike TWC's graphic. Anyways, there it is...^ ^ ^
>.<


RELEASE YOUR HATE AND YOUR ANGER!!!!

Nice map though, you and theu are really experienced to do exactly the same thing good job!
3784. serialteg 07:56 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
Quoting btwntx08:
speaking of bill looks like the eye poped out


hehe

this has to be the most used phrase in the last few days! :)
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3785. HurricaneFCast 07:58 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
Quoting TampaSpin:


Ok LOOK at this loop.....you can see for yourself what i stated...If you look you can see the weakness to the North that is currently in place that Bill feels then the Western edge of the Bermuda High erodes allowing Bill to go up the Western side of the Bermuda High...Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Right!!! That's it. You notice where there are two separate highs, though? This model run doesn't clearly show it like the current Layer Mean Wind Analyses do, but there are in fact two separate highs. Some other models show it better, but this is why models are just that- models. They tend to blur some of the atmospheric components and focus more directly on the track of the system. Anyways, you can see the western high being eroded and carried away by that longwave trough, which then essentially "opens up" the western portion of the northeast atlantic for Bill to be pulled poleward through. We both were seeing the same thing, it's just that this model blurs the fact that there are actually two highs:



That is from 2AM ^ ^ ^ ^

Anyways, that's just a forecasting misunderstanding you get with using to separate sources for your initial data!!! :)
Thanks for your insight TampaSpin, It's always valued no matter what you may think!!!
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3786. homelesswanderer 08:00 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
WOW! Thats a tiny eye! He looks like he's strengthing and bit by bit gaining latitude. The higher the better. Let's hope he remains a beautiful masterpiece signed by Mother Nature and is not remembered for anything else.
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3787. HurricaneFCast 08:02 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
I meant a forecasting misunderstanding WE had for me using one source and you using another, that is. Sorry for the way it was worded up there ^ ^ ^

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3788. TampaSpin 08:03 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
Quoting HurricaneFCast:

Right!!! That's it. You notice where there are two separate highs, though? This model run doesn't clearly show it like the current Layer Mean Wind Analyses do, but there are in fact two separate highs. Some other models show it better, but this is why models are just that- models. They tend to blur some of the atmospheric components and focus more directly on the track of the system. Anyways, you can see the western high being eroded and carried away by that longwave trough, which then essentially "opens up" the western portion of the northeast atlantic for Bill to be pulled poleward through. We both were seeing the same thing, it's just that this model blurs the fact that there are actually two highs:



That is from 2AM ^ ^ ^ ^

Anyways, that's just a forecasting misunderstanding you get with using to separate sources for your initial data!!! :)
Thanks for your insight TampaSpin, It's always valued no matter what you may think!!!


I think we was both saying the same thing with different wording...LOL....its all good.
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3789. F5Tornado 08:05 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
Night all, I will be more expert like next time, I was too tired.... hope the link came in good handy!
3790. HurricaneFCast 08:05 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
Quoting TampaSpin:


I think we was both saying the same thing with different wording...LOL....its all good.

I do too, LOL.
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3791. Walshy 08:06 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
Watch out Bermuda.

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3792. TampaSpin 08:08 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
HurricaneCast good map drawings there you posted also....i have done that before but, its a pain to do it and then you have to send to photobucket Tinypic is what i use when i have the patience to do that stuff.....good job.
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3793. lopaka001 08:08 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
You both are basically saying the same thing when it comes to the end result IMHO..
Thank you both for clarifying your points it answered some questions I had about the highs..
Either way you look at it Bermuda is in for a bad time I'm afraid..

*Edit*
Lol I see you both said the same thing what I posted sorry I am a little slow the board eat my post had to redo it..
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3794. serialteg 08:08 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
I value much you guys' insights tonight as I have learned :) I feel more intelligent, and not because I stayed at a Comfort Inn
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3795. HurricaneFCast 08:12 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
Quoting TampaSpin:
HurricaneCast good map drawings there you posted also....i have done that before but, its a pain to do it and then you have to send to photobucket Tinypic is what i use when i have the patience to do that stuff.....good job.

Thanks Tampa! Yeah it is kind of a pain, Lol! That's why I was kicking myself when I saw that TWC had a very simple graphic explaining the same thing on their website.. >.<
I'm glad you found a part of the model run that showed Bill rounding that ridge, though, because that was a question many had and I think that illustration clearly shows how Bill will be forced NW and N.
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3796. TampaSpin 08:15 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
I was looking at this Loop and that trough is very far North.....Hum....i'm not sure the WEstern Edge will get eroded enough. This will be interesting to watch what happens tomorrow.....You can see the trough is very high up in Canada.....

Water Vapor link
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3797. serialteg 08:15 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
fcaster at least you got to work on your paint skills bro.

i know penmanship on a PC greatly depends on the quality of the mouse, thou
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3798. Walshy 08:17 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
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3799. homelesswanderer 08:17 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
Hey y'all, does anyone know what's spinning in the gulf right below N.O.?
Link
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3800. serialteg 08:17 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
Quoting TampaSpin:
I was looking at this Loop and that trough is very far North.....Hum....i'm not sure the WEstern Edge will get eroded enough. This will be interesting to watch what happens tomorrow.....You can see the trough is very high up in Canada.....

Water Vapor link


still has a-ways to go. the farther out, the more unpredictable things get.
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3801. serialteg 08:20 AM GMT del 18 Agosto 2009    
Quoting homelesswanderer:
Hey y'all, does anyone know what's spinning in the gulf right below N.O.?
Link


id check the vorticity maps but i dont know how to use that. *hint* *hint*
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