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TD 2 forms in the Atlantic; hundreds feared dead from Typhoon Morakot; Felicia hits
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 01:55 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009 +4
Tropical Depression Two has formed out of the strong tropical wave off the coast of Africa we've been watching, and has a good chance of becoming the Atlantic hurricane season's first named storm. Satellite loops of the storm show that heavy thunderstorm activity is increasing near the storm's center, and low-level spiral bands are getting better established. However, dry air to TD 2's north is interfering with this process, and the storm is being slow to organize. This morning's QuikSCAT pass missed TD 2.


Figure 1. Current satellite image of TD 2.

Wind shear over the storm is low, 5 knots, and is expected to remain low to moderate, 5 - 15 knots, through Thursday. Sea Surface temperatures are a marginal 26 - 27°C, and there is plenty of dry, stable air from the Saharan Air Layer (SAL) to to TD 2's north. The relatively cool SSTs and dry air mean that TD 2 will not be able to intensify quickly. However, does appear likely that TD 2 has enough going for it that it will be able to become Tropical Storm Ana later today or on Wednesday. Most of the computer models show some weak development, but none of them predict TD 2 will become a hurricane. It is unusual for storms forming this far north to make it all the way across the Atlantic to hit the Lesser Antilles Islands, and the current NHC forecast track aiming TD 2 north of the islands appears to be a good one.

Elsewhere in the Atlantic
Two other tropical waves, one passing through the Lesser Antilles Islands, and one about 600 miles east of the islands, are mentioned in NHC's Graphical Tropical Weather Outlook. Both of these waves have very limited heavy thunderstorm activity that is not increasing, and are not a threat to develop over the next two days. None of the computer models develop either of these waves.

A large, disorganized tropical wave is just leaving the coast of Africa, south of the Cape Verdes Islands. The GFS and ECMWF models continue to predict the possible development of this wave late this week.


Figure 2. Track and total rain amount from Typhoon Morakot. Image credit: NASA/GSFC.

Death toll from Typhoon Morakot in the hundreds
The death toll from Typhoon Morakot continues climb, as a landslide triggered by the storm's heavy rains hit the small town of Shiao Lin in southern Taiwan. Shiao Lin has a population of 1,300, and 400 - 600 people are missing in the wake of the landslide. Morakot killed an additional 41 elsewhere on Taiwan, with 60 missing. Earlier, the storm killed 22 in the Philippines, and went on to kill 6 in mainland China, which it hit as a tropical storm with 50 mph winds and heavy rain. Morakot's heavy rains caused an estimated $1.3 billion in damage to China.

Morakot moved very slowly as it passed over Taiwan, dumping near world-record amounts of rain. Alishan in the mountains of southern Taiwan recorded 91.98" of rain over a two-day period, one of the heaviest two-day rains in world history. The world 2-day rainfall record is 98.42", set at Reunion Island on March 15 - 17, 1952. Alishan received an astonishing 9.04 feet of rain over a 3-day period. The highest 1-day rainfall total ever recorded on Taiwan occurred Saturday at Weiliao Mountain in Pingtung County, which recorded 1.403 meters (4.6 feet or 55 inches) or rain. Nine the ten highest one-day rainfall amounts in Taiwanese history were reached on Saturday, according to the Central Weather Bureau.

Felicia continues to weaken, but is a flash flooding threat to Hawaii
Tropical Storm Felicia continues to steadily weaken, thanks to high wind shear of 30 knots. Recent satellite loops show that almost no heavy thunderstorm activity remains, and what little there is has been pushed to the northeast side of the center, exposing the surface center as a swirl of low clouds.


Figure 3. Tropical storm Felicia appeared as a swirl of low clouds with one spot of heavy thunderstorm activity to the northeast as it approached Hawaii yesterday evening.

High wind shear will continue to weaken Felicia today, and the storm is unlikely to cause major flooding problems as it moves over the islands today. The greatest danger of flooding will be over the northern islands, where Felicia's main moisture is concentrated.

Link to follow:
Wundermap for Hawaii

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3651. Drakoen 01:50 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting ackee:
so the last model runs by the GFS was wrong ?



No.
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3652. eddye 01:50 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
eveyone td 2 could be a south fl threat south fla could hit byis a catgory 1 from td 2 and it becoming really organized but it too early too tell
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3653. nrtiwlnvragn 01:51 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting jeffs713:

Same models, new computer. It should help to speed up posting the GFS and NAM.


I don't expect any significant affect on time. It does increase their capacity greatly. So far, results are coming out about 1 minute sooner than average for the NAM. You can monitor from this site http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/prodstat/index.html#TARGET
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3654. mrpuertorico 01:52 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
looks like models are predicting a hit for pr
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3655. cchsweatherman 01:52 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Really am surprised that we still don't have Tropical Storm Ana, but can understand why considering the partially exposed circulation and low SAB and TAFB satellite estimates during the night. Could be wrong again, but given the new estimates from the SAB and TAFB at 2.5, we should have Tropical Storm Ana like a few have stated.
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3657. Drakoen 01:53 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
74 pages lol
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3658. WxLogic 01:54 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
It is my understanding that algorithm hasn't been changed in any form... so I won't expect accuracy will be impacted... just the digestion process of the data and output of it will be quicker. So a 12Z run will actually be very close to 12Z instead of waiting until 15Z or 16Z for models to come out...
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3659. KimberlyB 01:54 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
I don't think circulation will remain partially exposed for long. Looking at the last couple frames of the Dvorak, it looks like it's trying damn hard to develop convection on the southern eastern sides. You can see a couple bands that are wrapping around and starting to pop. Should be interesting if it can keep it up.
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3660. A4Guy 01:55 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
looks to me like the COC of TD2 is just a bit south of the latest forecast track. anyone else see taht (looking at RGB Vis loop).
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3661. Progster 01:55 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Link

Looks like hi-level moisture from Maka is giving ex-Felicia a boost this morning...
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3662. Drakoen 01:55 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting WxLogic:
It is my understanding that algorithm hasn't been changed in any form... so I won't expect accuracy will be impacted... just the digestion process of the data and output of it will be quicker. So a 12Z run will actually be very close to 12Z instead of waiting until 15Z or 16Z for models to come out...


"EMC HAS BEEN MONITORING THE MODEL SUITE RUNNING ON THE NEW
COMPUTER AND RESULTS HAVE SHOWN THAT THERE IS NO APPRECIABLE
DIFFERENCE IN SKILL SCORE BETWEEN THE SYSTEMS
. THIS IS TO BE
EXPECTED SINCE THE MODELING SUITE HAS NOT CHANGED."
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3663. Orcasystems 01:55 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Blog Update
Reflector site for those at work, which includes Weather456, daily update.


TD2

AOI
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3664. KimberlyB 01:55 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting A4Guy:
looks to me like the COC of TD2 is just a bit south of the latest forecast track. anyone else see taht (looking at RGB Vis loop).


I agree, but JUST south.
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3665. cg2916 01:55 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting cchsweatherman:
Really am surprised that we still don't have Tropical Storm Ana, but can understand why considering the partially exposed circulation and low SAB and TAFB satellite estimates during the night. Could be wrong again, but given the new estimates from the SAB and TAFB at 2.5, we should have Tropical Storm Ana like a few have stated.

Well, at 5 AM, the Dvorak numbers were 2.0, so that's why we don't have Ana yet.
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3666. Drakoen 01:56 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
TD2's low is nearly exposed
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3667. WxLogic 01:57 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Drakoen:


"EMC HAS BEEN MONITORING THE MODEL SUITE RUNNING ON THE NEW
COMPUTER AND RESULTS HAVE SHOWN THAT THERE IS NO APPRECIABLE
DIFFERENCE IN SKILL SCORE BETWEEN THE SYSTEMS
. THIS IS TO BE
EXPECTED SINCE THE MODELING SUITE HAS NOT CHANGED."


LOL... that proves it.
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3668. reedzone 01:58 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Ok, I'm still not getting the model changes, so what exactly are we going to see on them this afternoon?
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3669. BiloxiIsle 01:58 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Attention: The welcome mat has been removed from the GOM. All storms must proceed to the right.
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3670. cirrocumulus 01:59 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Drak,
Did you see the spin near 42 11?

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3671. cg2916 01:59 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Wow... there's a new comment every 24 seconds. This blog is active.
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3672. reedzone 02:01 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
No Tropical Storm yet, basically because the depression is getting some easterly shear which is why the center is exposed.
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3673. nrtiwlnvragn 02:00 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting reedzone:
Ok, I'm still not getting the model changes, so what exactly are we going to see on them this afternoon?


There are no model changes, they are just running on a new computer. Expect them at the same time as usual.
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3674. PensacolaDoug 02:01 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting hurricanejunky:


Mornin' Doug. Pretty impressive line of tropicality starting to rev up, huh?



No doubt, its getting interesting!
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3675. AussieStorm 02:02 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting BiloxiIsle:
Attention: The welcome mat has been removed from the GOM. All storms must proceed to the right.

about 1000miles to the right
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3676. WxLogic 02:02 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:


There are no model changes, they are just running on a new computer. Expect them at the same time as usual.


At least I'm hoping for a quicker output... I hope we "public" can benefit out of it... I know NWS will definitely see the benefits but sure hope we see a more timely posting.
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3677. Stormchaser2007 02:02 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
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3678. Drakoen 02:03 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting cirrocumulus:
Drak,
Did you see the spin near 42 11?



Yes but development not expected.
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3679. BiloxiIsle 02:03 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
3675. That works for me!
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3680. BayouBorn1965 02:03 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting CycloneOz:
So far I've seen model runs this week that takes significant TCs into the following areas:

1) WPB (S. FL)
2) SE TX / SW LA
3) Biloxi (panhandle)

Those are the three areas I selected in June to get hit with a TC this year...perhaps.

May the Models and I be wrong! :)


I didn't know Biloxi had a panhandle. We have a peninsula. Are you thinking of Florida's panhandle? What model are you looking at? Can you provide a link?
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3681. mobilegirl81 02:03 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Everybody says Ivan was a Florida storm when the eye made landfall in gulf shores, AL and mobile, AL had 100 mph sustained winds.
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3682. WeafhermanNimmy 02:03 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Guys,

The DVORAK readings just came out about 2 hours ago. The advisory came out 4 hours ago, in the verge of another update....so we'll see but most likely it will be Tropical Storm Ana!


000
WTNT42 KNHC 120835
TCDAT2
TROPICAL DEPRESSION TWO DISCUSSION NUMBER 5
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL022009
500 AM AST WED AUG 12 2009

"SATELLITE IMAGES INDICATE THAT A PERSISTENT CLUSTER OF THUNDERSTORMS
REMAINS IN THE WESTERN SEMICIRCLE OF THE DEPRESSION...ALTHOUGH
RECENTLY THIS CLUSTER HAS TAKEN ON A SOMEWHAT ELONGATED APPEARANCE.
MICROWAVE AND SHORTWAVE INFRARED DATA SUGGEST THE CENTER REMAINS ON
THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE CONVECTION AND NOT WELL-EMBEDDED WITHIN THE
MAIN CONVECTIVE CLUSTER. DVORAK ESTIMATES SUGGEST THE MAXIMUM
WINDS ARE NEAR 30 KT...AND THE INITIAL INTENSITY WILL BE HELD AT
THAT VALUE."

So it's def..being used in their discussions!

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3683. Stormchaser2007 02:03 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Slight southern movement.

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3684. PensacolaDoug 02:04 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting java162:


tropicality??????





Its technical, you prolly wouln't understand.



:)
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3686. palmbaywhoo 02:04 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
my guess in ana at 5
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3687. popartpete 02:04 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
My opinion om the current set of factors? I must quote the great Jeff Spicoli by saying, "I don't know!"
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3689. SomeRandomTexan 02:05 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Can someone post a link to the latest CMC... someone said that it was taking something into SETX or SWLA
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3690. AussieStorm 02:06 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting CycloneOz:


The welcome mat may have been pulled, but someone's left all the door wide-open!

and also left the spa running with the heater on too.
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3692. mobilegirl81 02:06 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
The GFS is taking a strong hurricane further east today. Any chance it would reconfigure west again?
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3693. cg2916 02:06 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting BiloxiIsle:
Attention: The welcome mat has been removed from the GOM. All storms must proceed to the right.

That would be Florida.
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3694. BiloxiIsle 02:07 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
3691. Will someone close that darn door. NOW!
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3695. nrtiwlnvragn 02:08 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting WxLogic:


At least I'm hoping for a quicker output... I hope we "public" can benefit out of it... I know NWS will definitely see the benefits but sure hope we see a more timely posting.


No significant increase in time, http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/prodstat/index.html#TARGET. They will have more capacity, so that they can add more "runs", for example when the hurricane models are currently run you will get this "WRF NMM preempted by the hurricane model. No WRF NMM graphics available for this hour". In the future, they should be able to run the NMM at the same time.
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3696. CybrTeddy 02:08 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Vortex95:
It seems like Ana won't be called at 11


With the T's the way they are, the quickScat showing winds well at TS strength, they don't have much of a reason to not call it Ana.
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3697. homelesswanderer 02:09 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting SomeRandomTexan:
Can someone post a link to the latest CMC... someone said that it was taking something into SETX or SWLA


Link
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3699. Cotillion 02:09 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting AussieStorm:

and also left the spa running with the heater on too.


Al Gore did it!
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3700. gator23 02:09 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting BayouBorn1965:


I didn't know Biloxi had a panhandle. We have a peninsula. Are you thinking of Florida's panhandle? What model are you looking at? Can you provide a link?


class='blogquote'>Quoting slavp:
Yes, You may be wrong...Matter of fact, you better be wrong!!! LOL
He was the models showed a panhandle hit, a south dade hit but he got one right. SE TX
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3701. gator23 02:10 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
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