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TD 2 forms in the Atlantic; hundreds feared dead from Typhoon Morakot; Felicia hits
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 01:55 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009 +4
Tropical Depression Two has formed out of the strong tropical wave off the coast of Africa we've been watching, and has a good chance of becoming the Atlantic hurricane season's first named storm. Satellite loops of the storm show that heavy thunderstorm activity is increasing near the storm's center, and low-level spiral bands are getting better established. However, dry air to TD 2's north is interfering with this process, and the storm is being slow to organize. This morning's QuikSCAT pass missed TD 2.


Figure 1. Current satellite image of TD 2.

Wind shear over the storm is low, 5 knots, and is expected to remain low to moderate, 5 - 15 knots, through Thursday. Sea Surface temperatures are a marginal 26 - 27°C, and there is plenty of dry, stable air from the Saharan Air Layer (SAL) to to TD 2's north. The relatively cool SSTs and dry air mean that TD 2 will not be able to intensify quickly. However, does appear likely that TD 2 has enough going for it that it will be able to become Tropical Storm Ana later today or on Wednesday. Most of the computer models show some weak development, but none of them predict TD 2 will become a hurricane. It is unusual for storms forming this far north to make it all the way across the Atlantic to hit the Lesser Antilles Islands, and the current NHC forecast track aiming TD 2 north of the islands appears to be a good one.

Elsewhere in the Atlantic
Two other tropical waves, one passing through the Lesser Antilles Islands, and one about 600 miles east of the islands, are mentioned in NHC's Graphical Tropical Weather Outlook. Both of these waves have very limited heavy thunderstorm activity that is not increasing, and are not a threat to develop over the next two days. None of the computer models develop either of these waves.

A large, disorganized tropical wave is just leaving the coast of Africa, south of the Cape Verdes Islands. The GFS and ECMWF models continue to predict the possible development of this wave late this week.


Figure 2. Track and total rain amount from Typhoon Morakot. Image credit: NASA/GSFC.

Death toll from Typhoon Morakot in the hundreds
The death toll from Typhoon Morakot continues climb, as a landslide triggered by the storm's heavy rains hit the small town of Shiao Lin in southern Taiwan. Shiao Lin has a population of 1,300, and 400 - 600 people are missing in the wake of the landslide. Morakot killed an additional 41 elsewhere on Taiwan, with 60 missing. Earlier, the storm killed 22 in the Philippines, and went on to kill 6 in mainland China, which it hit as a tropical storm with 50 mph winds and heavy rain. Morakot's heavy rains caused an estimated $1.3 billion in damage to China.

Morakot moved very slowly as it passed over Taiwan, dumping near world-record amounts of rain. Alishan in the mountains of southern Taiwan recorded 91.98" of rain over a two-day period, one of the heaviest two-day rains in world history. The world 2-day rainfall record is 98.42", set at Reunion Island on March 15 - 17, 1952. Alishan received an astonishing 9.04 feet of rain over a 3-day period. The highest 1-day rainfall total ever recorded on Taiwan occurred Saturday at Weiliao Mountain in Pingtung County, which recorded 1.403 meters (4.6 feet or 55 inches) or rain. Nine the ten highest one-day rainfall amounts in Taiwanese history were reached on Saturday, according to the Central Weather Bureau.

Felicia continues to weaken, but is a flash flooding threat to Hawaii
Tropical Storm Felicia continues to steadily weaken, thanks to high wind shear of 30 knots. Recent satellite loops show that almost no heavy thunderstorm activity remains, and what little there is has been pushed to the northeast side of the center, exposing the surface center as a swirl of low clouds.


Figure 3. Tropical storm Felicia appeared as a swirl of low clouds with one spot of heavy thunderstorm activity to the northeast as it approached Hawaii yesterday evening.

High wind shear will continue to weaken Felicia today, and the storm is unlikely to cause major flooding problems as it moves over the islands today. The greatest danger of flooding will be over the northern islands, where Felicia's main moisture is concentrated.

Link to follow:
Wundermap for Hawaii

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3551. AussieStorm 01:11 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting homelesswanderer:


I think Stormw mentioned this in his blog today.

From StormW's blog:
We may want to watch off the SEUS coast during this upcoming week, as a trof spilt is forecast, and we could have a piece of energy stall of the SEUS coast
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3552. alaina1085 01:12 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Thanks Ike
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3553. CybrTeddy 01:12 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Just in case anyone didn't see.
12/1145 UTC 14.3N 33.5W T2.5/2.5 02L

We should have Ana, just waiting to 11.
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3555. homelesswanderer 01:12 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting srada:


Thanks for the info! I will definetly read his blog


You'r welcome.
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3556. heliluv2trac 01:12 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
i wonder if weatherstudent is in school
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3557. KimberlyB 01:12 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting AussieStorm:

Dmax is night and Dmin is day


Ok. So basically a sunset, sunrise situation then?

I noticed someone mention that they believe the COC has relocated west, into the convection. Does anyone else believe that has or is occurring?
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3558. alaina1085 01:12 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting hondaguy:
Morning all!

The wave coming off the coast behind TD2 is HUGE. lol


I was just saying that myself. LOL.
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3559. MahFL 01:13 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Sat pic

Sat pic

When it moves more west use this one.

Closer sat pic

Later I will post more zoomed in pages.
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3560. alaina1085 01:13 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting heliluv2trac:
i wonder if weatherstudent is in school


Sleeping probly, he says he doesnt start school till around the 24th. LOL. Now I dont know if thats true or not, just what he said the other day.
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3561. redwagon 01:15 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Ike, that's the same little wave that's been meandering along quietly for about a week now, right?
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3562. AussieStorm 01:15 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting KimberlyB:


Ok. So basically a sunset, sunrise situation then?

I noticed someone mention that they believe the COC has relocated west, into the convection. Does anyone else believe that has or is occurring?
wind shear is pushing the convection west of the CoC. When they realign there will be more firing of convection
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3563. Adjuster13 01:16 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting catastropheadjuster:
Good Morning everyone. I really hope nothing gets into the GOM. We really don't need that. I mean last year it was detestation in TX. And then before that Katrina,Wilma,Rita and so on.

Sheri


Good Morning Sheri: Whats your opinion on "Where to?"
3564. Cotillion 01:16 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
I think it'll be a close call. Dvorak (and ADT) says it is a TS, the Windsat is picking up 35-40kt barbs on the eastern side and so on. But, the computer guidance still says 30kts and it doesn't have the best outward appearance with the convection displaced a bit.

Wouldn't be surprised either way.
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3565. KimberlyB 01:16 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting AussieStorm:
wind shear is pushing the convection west of the CoC. When they realign there will be more firing of convection


Thank you!
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3566. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 01:18 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    

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3568. ackee 01:19 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
IT WOULD be funny to see all models be wrong about bill affecting LAND forms early head out sea
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3569. extreme236 01:20 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
The ADT center position seems a bit too far displaced from the convection compared to the other estimates and the 12z estimate.
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3570. Cotillion 01:20 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
It wouldn't surprise me if they say - as a compromise - something like: Max winds are near 35mph with higher gusts, but could become a tropical storm at any time.

We'll see.
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3571. IKE 01:21 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting redwagon:
Ike, that's the same little wave that's been meandering along quietly for about a week now, right?


Yup.
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3572. cirrocumulus 01:22 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
On TD2 you can see the center is still to the east on visible satellite, but the organization and higher cloud tops are now closer to the center.
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3573. catastropheadjuster 01:23 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Adjuster13:


Good Morning Sheri: Whats your opinion on "Where to?"

I really have no ideal. I mainly just lurk and read. There are some very very smart folks on here. I mean there's StormW,Ike,Weather456,Tampaspin,and some others. They will answer your questions. I am still learning myself.

Sheri
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3575. Drakoen 01:24 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Just looked over the models dangerous GFS and ECMWF model runs. ECMWF is further south than it's previous run.
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3576. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 01:24 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting P451:
Can anyone link me to current TCHP images for the Atlantic?

I like the ones that look like this:



I just cannot seem to find any CURRENT ones anywhere.

Thanks in advance.

those TCHP maps are no longer updated till further notice you have to use google earth TCHP maps for current info
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3577. claimsadjuster 01:24 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting catastropheadjuster:

I really have no ideal. I mainly just lurk and read. There are some very very smart folks on here. I mean there's StormW,Ike,Weather456,Tampaspin,and some others. They will answer your questions. I am still learning myself.

Sheri


Sheri, do you do cat work? And who do you work for? I do and that is why I ask.
3578. IKE 01:25 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Wave going through the islands is going through 20-30 knots of shear today....looks more favorable in a day or 2....

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3580. Nolehead 01:25 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
morning everyone...has anyone noticed the canadian model?? WTH is that coming off the yucatan?? is this from that blob in the carrib?
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3581. wunderkidcayman 01:27 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
good morning guys talk to me
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3582. ackee 01:26 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
the wave of the coast seem to be further north than models been hinting anythoughts
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3583. afj3 01:26 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Hello everyone
I'm a novice at this but is the GFS taking TD2 over South Florida?
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3584. RescueAFR 01:28 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Greetings...from South Fla
This is an in case you needed to know post...For those following the GFS; I found this.. GFS (National Weather Service Global Forecast System) is the main meteorological model for the United States. The model is run four times a day (six hours apart). It is a merger and expansion of the AVN and MRF models and is extended out to 384 hours.
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3585. Stormchaser2007 01:29 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
New convection going off directly over the center.

We may have Ana at 11

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3586. ackee 01:29 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Drakoen:
Just looked over the models dangerous GFS and ECMWF model runs. ECMWF is further south than it's previous run.
can u show a link to this
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3587. Stormchaser2007 01:30 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
12z

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3588. AussieStorm 01:31 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
I hope we don't get this
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3589. cg2916 01:30 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Just in case anyone hasn't noticed, the SSD put the Dvorak at T2.5/2.5.
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3590. RescueAFR 01:31 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Roger that!
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3591. catastropheadjuster 01:31 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting claimsadjuster:


Sheri, do you do cat work? And who do you work for? I do and that is why I ask.


Hey, We will get banned talking about this in DrM's blog. So I sent you mail. But we can't really say sent mail. I don't want to get banned. I really like it here. I promise i am not being mean. It's just the rules in here. And some folks will flag you.

Sheri
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3592. KATRINABILOXIGIRL 01:31 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting AussieStorm:
I hope we don't get this
refresh my memory....what the heck is that??!!!
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3593. nuggsgalore 01:31 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Anybody seen the latest CMC? What is that smacking into Texas?


3594. CaneWarning 01:31 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Drakoen:
Just looked over the models dangerous GFS and ECMWF model runs. ECMWF is further south than it's previous run.


I hope the models are wrong. Our local mets all seem very concerned already.
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3595. Stormchaser2007 01:33 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting AussieStorm:
I hope we don't get this


Thats a time sequence of Andrew.
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3596. CaneWarning 01:33 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:


Thats a time sequence of Andrew.


Be careful using that name...someone yells at me every time I do.
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3597. Stormchaser2007 01:33 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Vorticity slowly but surely increasing.

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3598. extreme236 01:33 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
I don't see an exposed center anymore. Looks to be right on the edge of the convection.
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3599. Drakoen 01:33 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting ackee:
can u show a link to this

Link
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3600. WxLogic 01:34 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:
12z



Models starting to agreed on a stronger Bermuda High at the end of the period... as you can see by the left turn of the last 1 to 2 points.
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3601. cg2916 01:34 PM GMT del 12 Agosto 2009    
Quoting nuggsgalore:
Anybody seen the latest CMC? What is that smacking into Texas?



Yeah, I see that.
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