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TD 2 forms in the Atlantic; hundreds feared dead from Typhoon Morakot; Felicia hits
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 01:55 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009 +4
Tropical Depression Two has formed out of the strong tropical wave off the coast of Africa we've been watching, and has a good chance of becoming the Atlantic hurricane season's first named storm. Satellite loops of the storm show that heavy thunderstorm activity is increasing near the storm's center, and low-level spiral bands are getting better established. However, dry air to TD 2's north is interfering with this process, and the storm is being slow to organize. This morning's QuikSCAT pass missed TD 2.


Figure 1. Current satellite image of TD 2.

Wind shear over the storm is low, 5 knots, and is expected to remain low to moderate, 5 - 15 knots, through Thursday. Sea Surface temperatures are a marginal 26 - 27°C, and there is plenty of dry, stable air from the Saharan Air Layer (SAL) to to TD 2's north. The relatively cool SSTs and dry air mean that TD 2 will not be able to intensify quickly. However, does appear likely that TD 2 has enough going for it that it will be able to become Tropical Storm Ana later today or on Wednesday. Most of the computer models show some weak development, but none of them predict TD 2 will become a hurricane. It is unusual for storms forming this far north to make it all the way across the Atlantic to hit the Lesser Antilles Islands, and the current NHC forecast track aiming TD 2 north of the islands appears to be a good one.

Elsewhere in the Atlantic
Two other tropical waves, one passing through the Lesser Antilles Islands, and one about 600 miles east of the islands, are mentioned in NHC's Graphical Tropical Weather Outlook. Both of these waves have very limited heavy thunderstorm activity that is not increasing, and are not a threat to develop over the next two days. None of the computer models develop either of these waves.

A large, disorganized tropical wave is just leaving the coast of Africa, south of the Cape Verdes Islands. The GFS and ECMWF models continue to predict the possible development of this wave late this week.


Figure 2. Track and total rain amount from Typhoon Morakot. Image credit: NASA/GSFC.

Death toll from Typhoon Morakot in the hundreds
The death toll from Typhoon Morakot continues climb, as a landslide triggered by the storm's heavy rains hit the small town of Shiao Lin in southern Taiwan. Shiao Lin has a population of 1,300, and 400 - 600 people are missing in the wake of the landslide. Morakot killed an additional 41 elsewhere on Taiwan, with 60 missing. Earlier, the storm killed 22 in the Philippines, and went on to kill 6 in mainland China, which it hit as a tropical storm with 50 mph winds and heavy rain. Morakot's heavy rains caused an estimated $1.3 billion in damage to China.

Morakot moved very slowly as it passed over Taiwan, dumping near world-record amounts of rain. Alishan in the mountains of southern Taiwan recorded 91.98" of rain over a two-day period, one of the heaviest two-day rains in world history. The world 2-day rainfall record is 98.42", set at Reunion Island on March 15 - 17, 1952. Alishan received an astonishing 9.04 feet of rain over a 3-day period. The highest 1-day rainfall total ever recorded on Taiwan occurred Saturday at Weiliao Mountain in Pingtung County, which recorded 1.403 meters (4.6 feet or 55 inches) or rain. Nine the ten highest one-day rainfall amounts in Taiwanese history were reached on Saturday, according to the Central Weather Bureau.

Felicia continues to weaken, but is a flash flooding threat to Hawaii
Tropical Storm Felicia continues to steadily weaken, thanks to high wind shear of 30 knots. Recent satellite loops show that almost no heavy thunderstorm activity remains, and what little there is has been pushed to the northeast side of the center, exposing the surface center as a swirl of low clouds.


Figure 3. Tropical storm Felicia appeared as a swirl of low clouds with one spot of heavy thunderstorm activity to the northeast as it approached Hawaii yesterday evening.

High wind shear will continue to weaken Felicia today, and the storm is unlikely to cause major flooding problems as it moves over the islands today. The greatest danger of flooding will be over the northern islands, where Felicia's main moisture is concentrated.

Link to follow:
Wundermap for Hawaii

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1351. CaneWarning 07:48 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting FLGatorCaneNut:


Happy 17th anniversary
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Ugh...
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1352. mikatnight 07:48 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting mrnicktou:


Thanks again!




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1355. WxLogic 07:50 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


They'll most likely bump it up to 35 MPH.


Hope you're not interpreting the 35KTS as 35MPH... :)
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1356. Cavin Rawlins 07:51 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
5 days

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1357. HadesGodWyvern 07:51 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
NHC Tropical Cyclone Guidance still states 25 knots
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1358. Stormchaser2007 07:52 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting WxLogic:


Hope you're not interpreting the 35KTS as 35MPH... :)


Well you have to take into account that the satellite presentation is poor so they'll likely go with 30knots at 5.
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1359. nrtiwlnvragn 07:52 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
1339. atmoaggie

They moved the implementation date up, see #1245.
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1360. mikatnight 07:52 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Acemmett90:
yah that was not cool that was a low blow for us in south florida


A double - no, triple entendre!
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1361. BurnedAfterPosting 07:52 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
I think the NHC will average out the estimates and bump up the winds speeds to 35mph

No Ana yet
1362. rwdobson 07:52 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
@1339, that's pretty funny...it's Ed Lorenz' weather computer re-done for 2009...
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1363. CybrTeddy 07:52 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting WxLogic:


Hope you're not interpreting the 35KTS as 35MPH... :)


I'm not, but the NHC will most likely be the typical conservative call and say 35 MPH.
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1364. Stormchaser2007 07:52 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Weather456:
5 days



Similar to what the GFS is showing.
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1365. HadesGodWyvern 07:52 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
CPHC TC Guidance is going back and forth with 35-40 knots for Maka
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1366. Cavin Rawlins 07:53 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Ridiculous storm in 1 week

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1367. extreme236 07:53 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:


Well you have to take into account that the satellite presentation is poor so they'll likely go with 30knots at 5.


May even stay 25kts if they ignore the ADT.
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1368. CaneWarning 07:53 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Weather456:
Ridiculous storm in 1 week



That's got to have you concerned...
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1369. extreme236 07:54 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting HadesGodWyvern:
CPHC TC Guidance is going back and forth with 35-40 knots for Maka


I'd say hold it at 35kt. ADT may be higher than that but the intensity estimates are largely 30-35kts.
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1370. CybrTeddy 07:54 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Weather456:
Ridiculous storm in 1 week



Cant be all that ridiculous, other model's are also saying the same thing. ;)
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1371. Cavin Rawlins 07:54 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting CaneWarning:


That's got to have you concerned...


vigilant
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1372. mikatnight 07:55 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
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1373. WxLogic 07:56 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Weather456:
Ridiculous storm in 1 week



Like Zoolander would say... Ridiculously good looking... of course not once it touches land.
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1374. jeffs713 07:56 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:


Well the 18z is important to me becuase I need to know how the "extra" energy will play a role in this waves potential development.

I tend to stray away from 18z runs, since they don't have a drastically different or new data set to work with, and some of their upper-air data may be 18 hours old. I put a lot more faith in the 00z runs.
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1375. Cavin Rawlins 07:57 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


Cant be all that ridiculous, other model's are also saying the same thing. ;)


ridiculous in the sense of how intense it is. And that's not the only model that shows it.
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1376. Stormchaser2007 07:57 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
12z GFS shows the "Bill" wave at 144 hours with 86KNOT winds. What we were seeing later in the run was probably higher than a Category 3. Unfortunately it doesn't go past this.

Larger image:
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1377. Seflhurricane 07:57 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
TD 2 will most likely remain at 30MPH Convection is not that impressive and the system is disorganized i think we will se TS ANA Tomorrow Morning if it gets a good DMAX like some have stated
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1378. extreme236 07:58 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


Cant be all that ridiculous, other model's are also saying the same thing. ;)


I think he means in terms of its strength lol...
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1379. atmoaggie 07:58 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:
1339. atmoaggie

They moved the implementation date up, see #1245.

Hey, thanks. Wonder why I didn't get that message. (y'all pay attention when nrt posts this stuff...always on top of it)

WhyTH are they doing this in season? Of course there is no perfect time, but I would rather they put it off than move it up. Need to give Tolman a call...
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1380. Cavin Rawlins 07:58 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Also in that run Td 2 reappears east of the Bahamas.
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1383. Seflhurricane 07:59 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
how are the steering currents looking for next week for TD 2
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1384. mikatnight 07:59 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    


Working up a storm...
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1385. Seflhurricane 08:00 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Weather456:
Also in that run Td 2 reappears east of the Bahamas.
thats intresting ????
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1387. nrtiwlnvragn 08:00 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
1379. atmoaggie

They just sent the message out at 1:36 PM EST.
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1388. TexasHurricane 08:00 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
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1389. MsBlanch 08:01 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Chicklit:
I'm afraid to click on links in here right now. Did you get your 'puter fixed Drakoen?


Has there been an issue with links that I missed?
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1390. CybrTeddy 08:02 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
I remember 96L from 2007, never really did have a chance but it looked great.
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1391. Seflhurricane 08:02 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting CycloneOz:
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT:

The GoM is no longer closed to TC activity.

WARNING!

The GoM is no longer closed to TC activity!!!
dont even mention a storm to head for the gulf Gas prices are High Enough and the gulf coast is still busted up
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1393. sullivanweather 08:02 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
The last several nights there's been big time flare ups of convection during diurnal max with the newly formed TD#2. I fully expect this to occur once again tonight and the end result being TD#2 becoming Ana.
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1394. hondaguy 08:02 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Seflhurricane:
dont even mention a storm to head for the gulf Gas prices are High Enough and the gulf coast is still busted up


True, but we are makin a comeback! lol
1395. Seflhurricane 08:02 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting MsBlanch:


Has there been an issue with links that I missed?
yes see Dr Masters blog entry towards the end :)
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1396. cyclonekid 08:03 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Synopsis of the "Bill" Wave
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1397. mikatnight 08:03 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting MsBlanch:


Has there been an issue with links that I missed?


Read Dr. M's last paragraph.
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1398. Seflhurricane 08:04 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Advisory on Td 2 will be out within the hour
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1399. weathersp 08:05 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:
12z GFS shows the "Bill" wave at 144 hours with 86KNOT winds. What we were seeing later in the run was probably higher than a Category 3. Unfortunately it doesn't go past this.

Larger image:


I just had one of those feelings... that even though you live for meteorology and how awesome these storms are. You know that it will likely kill someone along the way if it hits land or gets close to land and some poor soul fishing 200 miles out is going to get whacked. It's a rough feeling.
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1400. Cavin Rawlins 08:05 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
12Z GFDL also show a strong system SE of TD 2 in 126 hrs



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1401. Orcasystems 08:06 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
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