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TD 2 forms in the Atlantic; hundreds feared dead from Typhoon Morakot; Felicia hits
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 01:55 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009 +4
Tropical Depression Two has formed out of the strong tropical wave off the coast of Africa we've been watching, and has a good chance of becoming the Atlantic hurricane season's first named storm. Satellite loops of the storm show that heavy thunderstorm activity is increasing near the storm's center, and low-level spiral bands are getting better established. However, dry air to TD 2's north is interfering with this process, and the storm is being slow to organize. This morning's QuikSCAT pass missed TD 2.


Figure 1. Current satellite image of TD 2.

Wind shear over the storm is low, 5 knots, and is expected to remain low to moderate, 5 - 15 knots, through Thursday. Sea Surface temperatures are a marginal 26 - 27°C, and there is plenty of dry, stable air from the Saharan Air Layer (SAL) to to TD 2's north. The relatively cool SSTs and dry air mean that TD 2 will not be able to intensify quickly. However, does appear likely that TD 2 has enough going for it that it will be able to become Tropical Storm Ana later today or on Wednesday. Most of the computer models show some weak development, but none of them predict TD 2 will become a hurricane. It is unusual for storms forming this far north to make it all the way across the Atlantic to hit the Lesser Antilles Islands, and the current NHC forecast track aiming TD 2 north of the islands appears to be a good one.

Elsewhere in the Atlantic
Two other tropical waves, one passing through the Lesser Antilles Islands, and one about 600 miles east of the islands, are mentioned in NHC's Graphical Tropical Weather Outlook. Both of these waves have very limited heavy thunderstorm activity that is not increasing, and are not a threat to develop over the next two days. None of the computer models develop either of these waves.

A large, disorganized tropical wave is just leaving the coast of Africa, south of the Cape Verdes Islands. The GFS and ECMWF models continue to predict the possible development of this wave late this week.


Figure 2. Track and total rain amount from Typhoon Morakot. Image credit: NASA/GSFC.

Death toll from Typhoon Morakot in the hundreds
The death toll from Typhoon Morakot continues climb, as a landslide triggered by the storm's heavy rains hit the small town of Shiao Lin in southern Taiwan. Shiao Lin has a population of 1,300, and 400 - 600 people are missing in the wake of the landslide. Morakot killed an additional 41 elsewhere on Taiwan, with 60 missing. Earlier, the storm killed 22 in the Philippines, and went on to kill 6 in mainland China, which it hit as a tropical storm with 50 mph winds and heavy rain. Morakot's heavy rains caused an estimated $1.3 billion in damage to China.

Morakot moved very slowly as it passed over Taiwan, dumping near world-record amounts of rain. Alishan in the mountains of southern Taiwan recorded 91.98" of rain over a two-day period, one of the heaviest two-day rains in world history. The world 2-day rainfall record is 98.42", set at Reunion Island on March 15 - 17, 1952. Alishan received an astonishing 9.04 feet of rain over a 3-day period. The highest 1-day rainfall total ever recorded on Taiwan occurred Saturday at Weiliao Mountain in Pingtung County, which recorded 1.403 meters (4.6 feet or 55 inches) or rain. Nine the ten highest one-day rainfall amounts in Taiwanese history were reached on Saturday, according to the Central Weather Bureau.

Felicia continues to weaken, but is a flash flooding threat to Hawaii
Tropical Storm Felicia continues to steadily weaken, thanks to high wind shear of 30 knots. Recent satellite loops show that almost no heavy thunderstorm activity remains, and what little there is has been pushed to the northeast side of the center, exposing the surface center as a swirl of low clouds.


Figure 3. Tropical storm Felicia appeared as a swirl of low clouds with one spot of heavy thunderstorm activity to the northeast as it approached Hawaii yesterday evening.

High wind shear will continue to weaken Felicia today, and the storm is unlikely to cause major flooding problems as it moves over the islands today. The greatest danger of flooding will be over the northern islands, where Felicia's main moisture is concentrated.

Link to follow:
Wundermap for Hawaii

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801. alaina1085 05:16 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting TheCaneWhisperer:


I typically don't look at global models for strength. The conditions that allow the second storm to thrive will be present for the first storm since they are so close together. None show TD2 becoming a hurricane but as directed by the NHC it is possible if it stays south of the forecast track.


Yea thanks. Thats why I was asking, because they are so close so conditions shouldnt be that different.
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802. 7544 05:16 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
watch the high pres thats the key for now on where they could go most seee a weak in the high that would take anna out to sea but it also can built in and hold wait watch and see
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803. louisianaboy444 05:16 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Well I hope louisiana doesn't get hit again. Louisianaboy444's been working out.

You got that Tropical cyclones out there....Not in my neighborhood! lol
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804. BenBIogger 05:16 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting futuremet:


That is because it is too aggressive on its strength and underestimates the high...


ok.
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805. ChrisDcane 05:16 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
who the hell is BILL?
806. cycloone 05:16 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Are we geeting so hopefull we already calling for bill? gosh guys we just got our first storm
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808. CaneWarning 05:17 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting ChrisDcane:
who the hell is BILL?


Kill Bill.
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811. WxLogic 05:17 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Seems the TWO @2PM will have TD#2 made TS ANA.
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812. CaneWarning 05:17 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting StSimonsIslandGAGuy:
Well if a major does hit Georgia, I wonder how close it would have to get until people stopped saying "it's a threat to Florida and the Carolinas" ;)


Wait, do you mean Georgia has a coastline that could be threatened???
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813. StormChaser81 05:17 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    


Looks like TD 2 is trying to form a moist atmosphere around it self. Still has nice big convection flares ups on the northwest quad...
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815. AussieStorm 05:18 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Goodnight all.
Stay safe, Play safe, Blog safe and please no fighting and no more virus's.
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816. hahaguy 05:18 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting StSimonsIslandGAGuy:
Well if a major does hit Georgia, I wonder how close it would have to get until people stopped saying "it's a threat to Florida and the Carolinas" ;)


Even when it's making landfall there will still be people saying that it's a Fl, NC/SC threat lol.
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817. ChrisDcane 05:18 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
theres no bill? on the NHC website
818. Claudette1234 05:18 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting CaneWarning:


The T# went up didn't it?


yes T is up 0.2T/hour

in 3,5 hours has pass from 1.5T to 2.0T, winds from 25knots to 30knots
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819. BobinTampa 05:18 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting StSimonsIslandGAGuy:
Well if a major does hit Georgia, I wonder how close it would have to get until people stopped saying "it's a threat to Florida and the Carolinas" ;)


it would have to be near Atlanta.
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820. atmoaggie 05:18 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting ChrisDcane:
who the hell is BILL?

You don't know Bill? I thought everyone knew Bill.
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821. cyclonekid 05:19 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
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822. KYhomeboy 05:19 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting StormChaser81:


Looks like TD 2 is trying to form a moist atmosphere around it self. Still has nice big convection flares ups on the northwest quad...


Lots of dry air near by. It really needs to develop a CDO to insulate the center.
824. gator23 05:19 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting KYhomeboy:


Exactly! The over hype and hysteria is typical on this blog. "Bill" has hardly emerged off of the coast yet and we're already talking about a track of 8 days plus.

Bill is a situational Storm
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825. slavp 05:20 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Where in louisiana are you louisianaboy? I'm in vermilion parish
826. TheCaneWhisperer 05:20 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting futuremet:


That is because it is too aggressive on its strength and underestimates the high...



The models did that a lot last year. Remember IKE, lol.
827. PSL2007 05:20 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Bill is a virtual storm.
828. ChrisDcane 05:20 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
oh so the disturbance just of the African coast is "BILL" ?
829. alaina1085 05:20 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting atmoaggie:

You don't know Bill? I thought everyone knew Bill.


I know Bill. :)
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830. CybrTeddy 05:21 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting ChrisDcane:
theres no bill? on the NHC website


We don't have Ana yet, but TD2 will most likely become Ana. That tropical wave coming off Africa will most likely end up becoming Tropical Storm Bill in a few days time. The long range model's are predicting it.
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831. 7544 05:21 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting WxLogic:
Seems the TWO @2PM will have TD#2 made TS ANA.


na not yet navy still says

02L.TWO
maybe another 12 hours tho
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832. cyclonekid 05:21 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting AussieStorm:
Goodnight all.
Stay safe, Play safe, Blog safe and please no fighting and no more virus's.
Bye Aussie.
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833. hondaguy 05:22 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting slavp:
Where in louisiana are you louisianaboy? I'm in vermilion parish


Not louisianaboy, but I'm in Ascension here.
834. BenBIogger 05:22 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
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835. Drakoen 05:22 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting PSL2007:
Bill is a virtual storm.


Exactly
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836. PcolaDan 05:22 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Will be interesting to see what buoy 13008 has to say as time goes on.
Right now:

Air Temperature Air Temperature (ATMP): 79.2 °F
Water Temperature Water Temperature (WTMP): 81.1 °F
Atmospheric Pressure Atmospheric Pressure (PRES): 29.96 in
Wind Speed Wind Speed (WSPD): 14.0 kts
Wind Direction Wind Direction (WDIR): NE ( 50 deg)
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837. futuremet 05:22 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Bottom line is: the east coast/EGOM has three things to monitor

52w wave

TD2

"Bill"
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838. louisianaboy444 05:22 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Where in louisiana are you louisianaboy? I'm in vermilion parish

I was born and raised in Crowley (Acadia Parish) but i just moved up to Monroe for college! I feel sorry for all you suckers on the coast! haha just playing
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839. KYhomeboy 05:23 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting ChrisDcane:
oh so the disturbance just of the African coast is "BILL" ?


Correct...according to the models
840. cycloone 05:23 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting StSimonsIslandGAGuy:
OK Drakoen, do you think it is unlikely that TD 2 and Bill will hit the east coast of the USA north of FL?
Bill??
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841. 7544 05:23 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting futuremet:
Bottom line is: the east coast/EGOM has three things to monitor

52w wave

TD2

"Bill"


agree
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842. weathersp 05:24 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Steady rate of strengthening based on Advanced Dvorak Technique
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843. hondaguy 05:24 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting louisianaboy444:
Where in louisiana are you louisianaboy? I'm in vermilion parish

I was born and raised in Crowley (Acadia Parish) but i just moved up to Monroe for college! I feel sorry for all you suckers on the coast! haha just playing


Thanks! lol
844. slavp 05:24 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Lol I wish i was young enough to be in school still..Id be heading northward myself....
845. saintsfan06 05:24 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Evacuated to Crowley for Katrina. Great people there!!
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846. alaina1085 05:24 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting hondaguy:


Not louisianaboy, but I'm in Ascension here.


Same here
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847. CaneWarning 05:25 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
It's hard to imagine Bill becoming a monster...especially after he just helped rescue those two reporters from North Korea.
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848. WxLogic 05:25 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Quoting 7544:


na not yet navy still says

02L.TWO
maybe another 12 hours tho


Hehe... well to play it safe it NHC might leave for a max of 12hrs as TD just to see how well it does during DMIN and DMAX... in my opinion. But based on the estimates I would upgrade it to a TS.
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849. Patrap 05:25 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Good Gumbo is found in Crowley,eh, Cher?
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850. FloridaTigers 05:25 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
Ok, stop calling that wave "Bill". It isn't even an invest yet.
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851. saintsfan06 05:25 PM GMT del 11 Agosto 2009    
847 OMG that was priceless
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