Dr. Jeff Masters' WunderBlog

Felicia not weakening; new African wave may develop
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 03:12 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009 +1
Hurricane Felicia has not weakened today, and continues to hold its own in spite of cool sea surface temperatures beneath it. Recent satellite imagery shows that the tops of thunderstorms surrounding the eye have cooled slightly, indicating that the updrafts sustaining the eyewall are maintaining their strength. The appearance of the hurricane has improved some today, with the storm assuming a more symmetric appearance.


Figure 1. Current satellite image of Hurricane Felicia.

Sea surface temperatures (SSTs) under Felicia have now fallen to 24.7°C, well below the 26°C threshold typically needed to sustain a hurricane. SSTs will slowly increase to 26°C by the time the storm reaches Hawaii, though. Wind shear is expected to remain low to moderate, 5 - 15 knots, through Monday morning. By Monday night, shear will rise to 20 knots, and remain above 20 knots thereafter. The higher shear combined with the relatively cool SSTs should mean that Felicia will be rapidly weakening in its final 24 hours before reaching Hawaii. Several of the computer models continue to show that this shear will be high enough to tear Felicia apart before it reaches Hawaii, though it appears to me that Felicia's current strength and annular structure will help it resist the shear enough to allow the storm to hit Hawaii as a tropical depression with 35 mph winds. Regardless, Felicia will bring heavy rain Hawaii beginning on Monday morning, and these rains will have the capability of causing flash floods and mudslides. The Hurricane Hunters are scheduled to make their first low-level investigation of Felicia this afternoon (around 10 am Hawaiian time). The NOAA jet also flies into Felicia today, and will drop a series of dropsondes that will be used to gather data that will be fed into today's 12Z and 00Z computer model runs.

Typhoon Morakot hits Taiwan
Typhoon Morakot hit Taiwan yesterday, battering the island with Category 1 winds and heavy rain. The Taipei airport recorded sustained winds of 56 mph, gusting to 76 mph, at the peak of the storm. Morakot killed 6 on Taiwan and 10 in the Philippines, and is headed towards a final landfall on mainland China as a tropical storm later today. Storm chaser James Reynolds intercepted the storm and posted videos on typhoonfury.com and Youtube. Morakot is still visible today on Taiwan radar.


Figure 2. Visible satellite image of a spinning tropical wave leaving the coast of Africa. The image was taken at 8am EDT 8/8/09.

African tropical wave may develop
A strong tropical wave with a moderate amount of spin is moving off the coast of Africa this morning. The wave is under about 10 - 20 knots of wind shear and has sea surface temperatures beneath it of 27°C. These conditions are probably too marginal to allow development over the next two days. As the wave moves westward away from Africa over the next few days, wind shear should slowly decrease and the SSTs will warm, potentially allowing for some slow development. The UKMET, GFS, and NOGAPS models all indicate the possibility that this will become a tropical depression 3 - 5 days from now. The ECMWF model forecasts that strong easterly winds over the wave will create too much shear to allow development. The wave is well south of the Saharan Air Layer, so dry air and African dust should not interfere over the next 3 - 5 days. I give the wave a medium (30 - 50% chance) of developing into a tropical depression in the next seven days.

I'll have an update on Sunday.

Jeff Masters
Categories: Hurricane
  Permalink | A A A
Reader Comments
Display: 0, 50, 100, 200 Sort: Newest First - Order Posted
Viewing: 2351 - 2401

Page: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | 31 | 32 | 33 | 34 | 35 | 36 | 37 | 38 | 39 | 40 | 41 | 42 | 43 | 44 | 45 | 46 | 47 | 48 | 49 | 50 | 51 | 52Blog Index

2351. AussieStorm 02:20 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Chicklit:
SST's between 26-30: not a problem. Check.



Member Since: Settembre 30, 2007 Posts: 5 Comments: 13345
2352. Stormchaser2007 02:20 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
Quoting WeatherStudent:


is that an absolute certainty?


Nothing is with absolute certainty...

Its likely though.
Member Since: Giugno 9, 2007 Posts: 4 Comments: 15248
2354. sporteguy03 02:21 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
Quoting WeatherStudent:


is that an absolute certainty?


Of course not you should know that WS where it heads today might change tomorrow or even the next model run.
Member Since: Luglio 7, 2005 Posts: 0 Comments: 4824
2355. watchingnva 02:21 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
Quoting truecajun:
good link watchinva. thanks


np :)
Member Since: Settembre 7, 2005 Posts: 3 Comments: 1310
2356. Stormchaser2007 02:22 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
If 99L can get its LLC more organized today than we could be using the Red crayon at 8pm.

Member Since: Giugno 9, 2007 Posts: 4 Comments: 15248
2357. futuremet 02:22 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Acemmett90:
lets do a poll
A. td by 2pm
B. td by 8pm
c. td by 2am
d. td by monday


C and D are technically the same.

I choose both.
Member Since: Luglio 19, 2008 Posts: 43 Comments: 4049
2358. cg2916 02:23 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
Just a random question... how does Wunderground run the GFS?
Member Since: Dicembre 21, 2007 Posts: 13 Comments: 2908
2359. Stormchaser2007 02:23 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
Quoting WeatherStudent:
frankly, i'll take teh wait and see approach, besides thee arly model runs are extremely unreliable and to boot, everyone yesterday was saying on here, a south florida threater, so i'll just hold my breath in regards to that possibility.


?

Only one person was saying that this could threaten SFL and that person is on my ignore list.
Member Since: Giugno 9, 2007 Posts: 4 Comments: 15248
2360. BurnedAfterPosting 02:23 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
Quoting cg2916:
Just a random question... how does Wunderground run the GFS?


they have a guy in the background drawing on a map lol
2361. hunkerdown 02:24 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
Quoting extreme236:


Not another poll...
better than the peoms...I think
Member Since: Agosto 15, 2008 Posts: 0 Comments: 2514
2362. Drakoen 02:24 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:
CIMSS put 99L on their big TC map. Im pretty sure we havent seen that since 94L.


The low level vorticity maximum has increased overnight and I still think there is a nearly closed if not closed low regardless of what the quickscat shows. The GFS 06z model analysis had an isobar around a 1010mb low. It continues to move slightly north of due west. How much poleward movement it gets will be dependent on how strong the system gets. The GFS remains the most northerly with the system while the UKMET, NOGAPS, and CMC take it on a more westerly course regardless of it's strength. A forecast cannot be solely based on the GFS model. The consensus would keep it south of 20N throughout the 6 day period for the time being.
Member Since: Ottobre 28, 2006 Posts: 57 Comments: 29010
2363. Stormchaser2007 02:25 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
Quoting hunkerdown:
better than the peoms...I think


LOL

Definitely
Member Since: Giugno 9, 2007 Posts: 4 Comments: 15248
2364. sporteguy03 02:25 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
Quoting WeatherStudent:
frankly, i'll take teh wait and see approach, besides thee arly model runs are extremely unreliable and to boot, everyone yesterday was saying on here, a south florida threater, so i'll just hold my breath in regards to that possibility.


That goes to show you how things can change personally I think it way to early to know who it will or will not effect, besides there are other land areas that can be effected.
Member Since: Luglio 7, 2005 Posts: 0 Comments: 4824
2365. hunkerdown 02:25 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
Quoting BurnedAfterPosting:


they have a guy in the background drawing on a map lol
that jason guy ?
Member Since: Agosto 15, 2008 Posts: 0 Comments: 2514
2366. Claudette1234 02:25 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    


90E at East-Pacific was marked as yellow circle but next report will be TD.
Member Since: Luglio 21, 2009 Posts: 0 Comments: 549
2367. futuremet 02:25 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Drakoen:


The low level vorticity maximum has increased overnight and I still think there is a nearly closed if not closed low regardless of what the quickscat shows. The GFS 06z model analysis had an isobar around a 1010mb low. It continues to move slightly north of due west. How much poleward movement it gets will be dependent on how strong the system gets. The GFS remains the most northerly with the system while the UKMET, NOGAPS, and CMC take it on a more westerly course regardless of it's strength. A forecast cannot be solely based on the GFS model. The consensus would keep it south of 20N throughout the 6 day period for the time being.


And the GFS is notorious for its poleward biases.
Member Since: Luglio 19, 2008 Posts: 43 Comments: 4049
2368. CybrTeddy 02:25 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
Personally though right now, I think we could see Tropical Storm Ana, on Late Monday / Early Tuesday.
Member Since: Luglio 8, 2005 Posts: 253 Comments: 20251
2369. cg2916 02:26 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
Does Wunderground have GFS software?
Member Since: Dicembre 21, 2007 Posts: 13 Comments: 2908
2370. Stormchaser2007 02:26 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Drakoen:


The low level vorticity maximum has increased overnight and I still think there is a nearly closed if not closed low regardless of what the quickscat shows. The GFS 06z model analysis had an isobar around a 1010mb low. It continues to move slightly north of due west. How much poleward movement it gets will be dependent on how strong the system gets. The GFS remains the most northerly with the system while the UKMET, NOGAPS, and CMC take it on a more westerly course regardless of it's strength. A forecast cannot be solely based on the GFS model. The consensus would keep it south of 20N throughout the 6 day period for the time being.


Yeah I was noticing that the GFS seems to be the outlier with the northerly track so far. We'll see what the 12Z suite brings. Hopefully the GFDL is run.
Member Since: Giugno 9, 2007 Posts: 4 Comments: 15248
2371. truecajun 02:26 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
poems and polls - that's new this year
Member Since: Agosto 24, 2006 Posts: 0 Comments: 1848
2372. Stormchaser2007 02:27 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
Quoting hunkerdown:
that jason guy ?


LOL
Member Since: Giugno 9, 2007 Posts: 4 Comments: 15248
2375. polarcane 02:28 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
Quoting AussieStorm:



God help us if something spins up in the GOM that thing is a bathtub of hot water! I have not been keeping up with the SST in the gulf the past week or so.
Member Since: Luglio 19, 2008 Posts: 1 Comments: 206
2376. Stormchaser2007 02:29 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
Quoting CybrTeddy:
Personally though right now, I think we could see Tropical Storm Ana, on Late Monday / Early Tuesday.


It seems that way. We should see a TD tomorrow is this continues to organize.
Member Since: Giugno 9, 2007 Posts: 4 Comments: 15248
2378. AllStar17 02:29 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Drakoen:


The low level vorticity maximum has increased overnight and I still think there is a nearly closed if not closed low regardless of what the quickscat shows. The GFS 06z model analysis had an isobar around a 1010mb low. It continues to move slightly north of due west. How much poleward movement it gets will be dependent on how strong the system gets. The GFS remains the most northerly with the system while the UKMET, NOGAPS, and CMC take it on a more westerly course regardless of it's strength. A forecast cannot be solely based on the GFS model. The consensus would keep it south of 20N throughout the 6 day period for the time being.


OK, Drak. Thank you. I have been saying west or WNW for now. Everyone else has denied that and said WNW or NW. I am not so sure this is a guaranteed fish.

Quoting Claudette1234:


90E at East-Pacific was marked as yellow circle but next report will be TD.


What? It wont go from yellow to TD.
Member Since: Giugno 29, 2009 Posts: 13 Comments: 5135
2380. Claudette1234 02:29 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    

Member Since: Luglio 21, 2009 Posts: 0 Comments: 549
2381. hunkerdown 02:30 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Chicklit:
SST's between 26-30: not a problem. Check.
For what its worth, SSTs below 28 would be a problem.
Member Since: Agosto 15, 2008 Posts: 0 Comments: 2514
2382. Stormchaser2007 02:30 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
The 'Bill' wave is now the size of 99L.
The models show development on Wednesday.
Member Since: Giugno 9, 2007 Posts: 4 Comments: 15248
2383. AllStar17 02:30 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
Quoting jasoniscoolman10:
i am going by green model here at 8am.. i think the models will move back to the west little at 2pm


You mean the BAMS
Member Since: Giugno 29, 2009 Posts: 13 Comments: 5135
2386. truecajun 02:31 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
will the saharan dust affect it?
Member Since: Agosto 24, 2006 Posts: 0 Comments: 1848
2387. BurnedAfterPosting 02:31 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Claudette1234:


90E at East-Pacific was marked as yellow circle but next report will be TD.


I see no indications that 90E will be updgraded
2388. polarcane 02:32 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
Quoting WeatherStudent:


hey future met, since when did bill go from a texas lanfaller to nearly a south florida landfaller, what's up with that my man?
Wow we are talking about Bill already and don't even have Ana yet. What's up with that!
Member Since: Luglio 19, 2008 Posts: 1 Comments: 206
2390. 789 02:32 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
D
Member Since: Luglio 18, 2009 Posts: 0 Comments: 255
2391. BenBIogger 02:32 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
Most likely a fish

Member Since: Marzo 19, 2009 Posts: 0 Comments: 1419
2393. Stormchaser2007 02:33 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
Quoting truecajun:
will the saharan dust affect it?


It shouldnt.

Especially if your talking about the 'Bill' wave. It has another wave coming off on Monday that should clear any potential SAL ahead of it. Conditions should be as favorable as there are for 99L.

-Low shear
-Little to no SAL
-Negative MJO
Member Since: Giugno 9, 2007 Posts: 4 Comments: 15248
2394. stormwatcherCI 02:33 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
Quoting sammywammybamy:


He asks too many questions.....
Asking questions is how you learn.
Member Since: Ottobre 9, 2008 Posts: 0 Comments: 8040
2395. hunkerdown 02:33 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
Quoting AllStar17:


You mean the BAMS
please dont quote him
Member Since: Agosto 15, 2008 Posts: 0 Comments: 2514
2396. Drakoen 02:34 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
If Ana makes it up to 20N I could see it recurving out to sea.
Member Since: Ottobre 28, 2006 Posts: 57 Comments: 29010
2397. SouthALWX 02:34 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
Quoting AllStar17:


OK, Drak. Thank you. I have been saying west or WNW for now. Everyone else has denied that and said WNW or NW. I am not so sure this is a guaranteed fish.



What? It wont go from yellow to TD.

everyone? I posted a detailed explanation explaining why sat imagery looked more northerly but that it was moving generally west.
Member Since: Agosto 27, 2008 Posts: 0 Comments: 1497
2398. 2manytimes 02:34 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
Quoting sammywammybamy:
Has a Storm Ever went Backwards???

From West to East?

In the Tropical Atlantic?
several times ,yes. last year Omar. a few years back Lenny and Klaus.
2400. BurnedAfterPosting 02:35 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
Quoting stormwatcherCI:
Asking questions is how you learn.


but asking the same ones over and over again, means you havent learned anything
2401. futuremet 02:35 PM GMT del 09 Agosto 2009    
Quoting sammywammybamy:
Has a Storm Ever went Backwards???

From West to East?

In the Tropical Atlantic?


LOL yes, that is very common.
Member Since: Luglio 19, 2008 Posts: 43 Comments: 4049

Viewing: 2351 - 2401

Page: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | 31 | 32 | 33 | 34 | 35 | 36 | 37 | 38 | 39 | 40 | 41 | 42 | 43 | 44 | 45 | 46 | 47 | 48 | 49 | 50 | 51 | 52Blog Index

New Comment
Community Standards Policy Comments will take a few seconds to appear.
Post Your Comments
Please sign in to post comments.
Not only will you be able to leave comments on this blog, but you'll also have the ability to upload and share your photos in our Wunder Photos section.
About JeffMasters
Jeff co-founded the Weather Underground in 1995 while working on his Ph.D. He flew with the NOAA Hurricane Hunters from 1986-1990.

Community Activity