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Felicia not weakening; new African wave may develop
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 03:12 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009 +1
Hurricane Felicia has not weakened today, and continues to hold its own in spite of cool sea surface temperatures beneath it. Recent satellite imagery shows that the tops of thunderstorms surrounding the eye have cooled slightly, indicating that the updrafts sustaining the eyewall are maintaining their strength. The appearance of the hurricane has improved some today, with the storm assuming a more symmetric appearance.


Figure 1. Current satellite image of Hurricane Felicia.

Sea surface temperatures (SSTs) under Felicia have now fallen to 24.7°C, well below the 26°C threshold typically needed to sustain a hurricane. SSTs will slowly increase to 26°C by the time the storm reaches Hawaii, though. Wind shear is expected to remain low to moderate, 5 - 15 knots, through Monday morning. By Monday night, shear will rise to 20 knots, and remain above 20 knots thereafter. The higher shear combined with the relatively cool SSTs should mean that Felicia will be rapidly weakening in its final 24 hours before reaching Hawaii. Several of the computer models continue to show that this shear will be high enough to tear Felicia apart before it reaches Hawaii, though it appears to me that Felicia's current strength and annular structure will help it resist the shear enough to allow the storm to hit Hawaii as a tropical depression with 35 mph winds. Regardless, Felicia will bring heavy rain Hawaii beginning on Monday morning, and these rains will have the capability of causing flash floods and mudslides. The Hurricane Hunters are scheduled to make their first low-level investigation of Felicia this afternoon (around 10 am Hawaiian time). The NOAA jet also flies into Felicia today, and will drop a series of dropsondes that will be used to gather data that will be fed into today's 12Z and 00Z computer model runs.

Typhoon Morakot hits Taiwan
Typhoon Morakot hit Taiwan yesterday, battering the island with Category 1 winds and heavy rain. The Taipei airport recorded sustained winds of 56 mph, gusting to 76 mph, at the peak of the storm. Morakot killed 6 on Taiwan and 10 in the Philippines, and is headed towards a final landfall on mainland China as a tropical storm later today. Storm chaser James Reynolds intercepted the storm and posted videos on typhoonfury.com and Youtube. Morakot is still visible today on Taiwan radar.


Figure 2. Visible satellite image of a spinning tropical wave leaving the coast of Africa. The image was taken at 8am EDT 8/8/09.

African tropical wave may develop
A strong tropical wave with a moderate amount of spin is moving off the coast of Africa this morning. The wave is under about 10 - 20 knots of wind shear and has sea surface temperatures beneath it of 27°C. These conditions are probably too marginal to allow development over the next two days. As the wave moves westward away from Africa over the next few days, wind shear should slowly decrease and the SSTs will warm, potentially allowing for some slow development. The UKMET, GFS, and NOGAPS models all indicate the possibility that this will become a tropical depression 3 - 5 days from now. The ECMWF model forecasts that strong easterly winds over the wave will create too much shear to allow development. The wave is well south of the Saharan Air Layer, so dry air and African dust should not interfere over the next 3 - 5 days. I give the wave a medium (30 - 50% chance) of developing into a tropical depression in the next seven days.

I'll have an update on Sunday.

Jeff Masters
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751. FLWeatherFreak91 09:51 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
This new wave seems to be getting comfortable with the ocean. Most of the other waves that have come off Africa thus far this season have immediately lost their deep convection, and have not regained it until they are well out to sea, if they redevelop convection at all.
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753. BurnedAfterPosting 09:52 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
Quoting weatherwatcher12:
Here's the QUIKSCAT


Is it current?


yes that is current
754. Patrap 09:52 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
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755. cirrocumulus 09:53 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
Part of the reason the wave is developing off of Africa is because of the position of the current high pressure to the north.
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756. Dakster 09:53 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
Now this is interesting... I usually look at the raindar (not my word) from the www.sfwmd.gov web-site. It does appear that the winds have finally changed - last week the storms would form and move from the Gulf to the Atlantic (Eastward). Now the storms are forming in the Atlantic and moving towards the gulf (westward). This is common, but usually happens before now.
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757. 305st0rm 09:54 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Dakster:
WS- Do you by chance live in Wilton Manors?


What are the chances we have the same profile pic....Go canes
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758. FloridaTigers 09:55 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
Quoting WeatherStudent:
Not much weatherstudent..


chillen man, just watching that amssively powerful wave/low in the EATL develop this afternoon, and you, bro??


Chillen man? Bro? Where is "sir" "good evening" WS and what have you done to him?

On topic, I think in my unprofessional opinion, that this wave has a good chance to develop into something with these conditions ahead. I just hope its a fish, we don't need anyone threatened after last year...
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759. tropicaltank 09:55 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
A question from a novice.Could someone explain why and when the DMIN and DMAX occur?
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760. Patrap 09:55 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
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761. louisianaboy444 09:56 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
For whom it may concern this is my philosphy on this blog....No matter how much every Met wants to deny it deep down we all want a storm...its just like if your a baseball player you want a homerun and if your a football player you want a touchdown...its in our blood we crave on the thrill and the excitment...but some people on here are more realist and professional about it and if a storm doesn't have a chance to form they say it...Half of the time they right but that brings disappointment to the ones thrilling for the storm and the easiest thing to do is attack the person thats saying it won't form to make them seem less credible...nobody wants to see anyone in harm's way but deep down we all want a storm its not our fault its in our blood its our passion
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762. cchsweatherman 09:56 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
The 18Z GFS seems to be more aggressive than the previous runs throughout the day.
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763. Dakster 09:57 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
Quoting 305st0rm:


What are the chances we have the same profile pic....Go canes


Yes... So true. Did you attend? I was there 90-94.

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764. Patrap 09:58 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
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765. FLWeatherFreak91 09:58 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Dakster:
Now this is interesting... I usually look at the raindar (not my word) from the www.sfwmd.gov web-site. It does appear that the winds have finally changed - last week the storms would form and move from the Gulf to the Atlantic (Eastward). Now the storms are forming in the Atlantic and moving towards the gulf (westward). This is common, but usually happens before now.
That is what is known as a reverse summertime pattern. It occurred late this year because of excessive troughiness over the northern gulf during the past 2 months.
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766. 305st0rm 09:58 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Dakster:


Yes... So true. Did you attend? I was there 90-94.


97-03
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767. KYhomeboy 09:59 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
Quoting FloridaTigers:


FIU>UM


Tu sabes!!!
768. Elena85Vet 10:01 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
Quoting KYhomeboy:


IF...and thats a big IF conditions are as favorable as forecast.


Got a link to your translator? TIA
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769. 305st0rm 10:00 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Dakster:


Yes... So true. Did you attend? I was there 90-94.


Lambda Theta Phi
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770. Drakoen 10:01 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
Quoting HaboobsRsweet:
WHY?!?!?! WHY?!?!?! does everytime someone posts their opinion that disagrees with formation of a wave must BurnedAfterPosting have to insult everyone? Seriously I do think this one has a shot but will never attack someone who has a different opinion. What a waste of posting space. As for them thinking it could be a fish storm, maybe they believe the ridge wont build in like it hasnt on many of the waves this year which would make the wave turn to the north and go around it and out to sea. Why rule that out? Try and do a long range forecast, see if you are right and learn from it. Why discourage it or put others down?


Blog patrolling
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771. Patrap 10:01 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
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772. Dakster 10:02 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
Quoting KYhomeboy:


Tu sabes!!!


Ohh boy.. Here we go. I have place for FIU too, granted when FIU and UM play, it's all UM for me.

Just remember, friends don't let friends go to FSU....

I was actually on the UM Main Campus a lot this week... Can't believe how much it has changed (and for the better). The landscaping is amazing, even the streets off san amaro are all amazing. (Just don't try to tow your boat through the area)
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773. Dakster 10:05 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
Hey Patrap, looks like Felicia sucked Enrique dry...

What are your current thoughts on intensity at Hawaiin landfall?
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774. HurricaneJoe 10:04 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
Quoting louisianaboy444:
For whom it may concern this is my philosphy on this blog....No matter how much every Met wants to deny it deep down we all want a storm...its just like if your a baseball player you want a homerun and if your a football player you want a touchdown...its in our blood we crave on the thrill and the excitment...but some people on here are more realist and professional about it and if a storm doesn't have a chance to form they say it...Half of the time they right but that brings disappointment to the ones thrilling for the storm and the easiest thing to do is attack the person thats saying it won't form to make them seem less credible...nobody wants to see anyone in harm's way but deep down we all want a storm its not our fault its in our blood its our passion


Couldn't agree with you more!!
775. willdunc79 10:05 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
The wave Dr. Masters thinks will form what is it's coordinates?
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776. FloridaTigers 10:06 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Dakster:


Ohh boy.. Here we go. I have place for FIU too, granted when FIU and UM play, it's all UM for me.

Just remember, friends don't let friends go to FSU....

I was actually on the UM Main Campus a lot this week... Can't believe how much it has changed (and for the better). The landscaping is amazing, even the streets off san amaro are all amazing. (Just don't try to tow your boat through the area)


I don't hate UM, I just don't get Miami's undying love for the Canes. I know its due to FIU being a newer school, and even newer in Athletics, but once FIU football becomes competitive (real soon) you can bet FIU will snag the average South Floridian.

Besides, FIU has the National Hurricane Center. :)
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777. CaicosRetiredSailor 10:07 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
777 again
a good day.
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778. java162 10:07 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
Quoting willdunc79:
The wave Dr. Masters thinks will form what is it's coordinates?


its just leaving the african coast
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779. Patrap 10:07 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Dakster:
Hey Patrap, looks like Felicia sucked Enrique dry...

What are your current thoughts on intensity at Hawaiin landfall?


Looking at the Loops and SST's here,click the Boxes for SSt's and The Forecast Points,.Felicia is doing a fine job of Maintaining.
But the Islanders should keep a wary eye on her.

Things have a way of changing when you least expect them in a Persistent Vortex.
Some have more Flavor than the avg.
She seems to be one.


Felicia AVN Loop
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780. Drakoen 10:07 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
Ana and Bill:
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781. FirstCoastMan 10:07 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
Does anyone have a link for the 18z gfs..TIA
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783. 305st0rm 10:08 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
Quoting willdunc79:
The wave Dr. Masters thinks will form what is it's coordinates?

11N 16W
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784. Patrap 10:11 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    


This satellite image shows storm systems (L-R) Gustav, Hanna, Ike and Josephine on September 2, 2008. (NOAA via Getty Images)
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786. louisianaboy444 10:11 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
Quoting louisianaboy444:
For whom it may concern this is my philosphy on this blog....No matter how much every Met wants to deny it deep down we all want a storm...its just like if your a baseball player you want a homerun and if your a football player you want a touchdown...its in our blood we crave on the thrill and the excitment...but some people on here are more realist and professional about it and if a storm doesn't have a chance to form they say it...Half of the time they right but that brings disappointment to the ones thrilling for the storm and the easiest thing to do is attack the person thats saying it won't form to make them seem less credible...nobody wants to see anyone in harm's way but deep down we all want a storm its not our fault its in our blood its our passion


Couldn't agree with you more!!



You can compare it to sports...every athlete wants success for themselves but they try not to show it because they don't want others to think they self-centered so when good things happen to them they try not to show emotion....Its the same thing with Weather deep down every Meteorologist wants a storm to form but we all try to cover it up and deny it because we don't want others to think we unprofessional
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787. 305st0rm 10:12 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
782. WeatherStudent 10:08 PM GMT on August 08, 2009 Hide this comment.

Quoting 305st0rm:


What are the chances we have the same profile pic....Go canes



No I do not, and I'm a proud Golden Panther, by the way.



Sorry....I was speaking at Drakster
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788. HaboobsRsweet 10:12 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
Maybe these storms over the Gulf will help reduce the SSTs just a slight hair haha. Ok maybe not but that could be the difference froma Cat 3 to a Cat 4 or 5 if one of these makes it in the Gulf. It has been a lot cooler in the Gulf States as of late. I can actually run outside without dying at 3PM.
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790. PensacolaBuoy 10:13 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
Quoting louisianaboy444:
For whom it may concern this is my philosphy on this blog....No matter how much every Met wants to deny it deep down we all want a storm...its just like if your a baseball player you want a homerun...

I think you make your point with a good analogy, and I share your passion. I like a good baseball game with lots of scoring, but it's fun sometimes to watch a game like the Red Sox - Yankees marathon game last night that went 15 scoreless innings before A. Rod. hit a dramatic homer. This season may be like that. The anticipation of a storm adds to the drama when one finally roars through the Atlantic. I hope the Cape Verde long balls go toward the left field fence and not our way, though. By the way, though scoreless, we're still in about the fourth inning of this season!
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791. HaboobsRsweet 10:14 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
WS...if you are worried about the waves making landfall in south FL, have a plan. Shoot you should have one already. Know where to evac if you need to and or have supplies ready just in case. No need to panic yet though.
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792. Patrap 10:14 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
Panic is a art form for some.

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793. Drakoen 10:16 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Patrap:
Panic is a art form for some.



More like a way of life lol
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794. FLHurricaneChaser 10:17 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    


GFS 132 hours..
795. extreme236 10:18 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
GFS @ 72 hours still suggesting an active ITCZ:

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796. Patrap 10:18 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
One can even get Boxed in, in Late August..



Best to have your supplies,medicine,Fuel..and other
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797. HaboobsRsweet 10:22 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Patrap:
Panic is a art form for some.


Do you remember right before Gustav last year? People were filling up 50 gallon drums with gas. Im not talking about 1 drum but 10-20. I wonder if they are still using that gas today for their cars. People went nuts and over board.
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798. CaicosRetiredSailor 10:21 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Patrap:
One can even get Boxed in, in Late August..



Best to have your supplies,medicine,Fuel..and other



If you draw a line between Hanna and Gustav in that picture it goes through my house... oops

CRS
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799. Drakoen 10:22 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
It looks like Ana and Bill try sucking the life out of each other before they get further apartt from each other
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800. Cotillion 10:24 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
Quoting Drakoen:
It looks like Ana and Bill try sucking the life out of each other before they get further apartt from each other


I can't wait for the Monica and Hillary jokes to start coming around.
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801. Patrap 10:24 PM GMT del 08 Agosto 2009    
The Basin reaches a threshold point.

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