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Dust forecast for the 2009 Atlantic hurricane season
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 06:58 PM GMT del 20 Giugno 2009 +5
There will be less African dust than usual over the tropical Atlantic during this year's hurricane season, according to a new experimental dust forecast issued by Dr. Amato Evan of the University of Wisconsin. Dr. Evan used a statistical model that correlated levels of dust activity in past years with rainfall over the Sahel region of Africa and a natural regional wind pattern known as the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO). He forecasts that dust levels over the Main Development Region (MDR, 8 - 20°N & 15 - 65°W) for Atlantic hurricanes during this year's hurricane season will be similar to last year's below-average levels, thanks in large part to plentiful rains over the Sahel region of Africa during the 2008 rainy season (Figure 1). However, the dust levels expected this year do not approach the record lows seen in 1994 and 2005. Dust forecasts made in May or June are skillful going out five months, with a skill 11 - 16% better than a "no-skill" forecast using climatology.


Figure 1. Rainfall over the Sahel region of Africa was generally 50 - 100 mm (2 - 4 inches) above average during the 2008 rainy season (about 20 - 80% above average). The heavy rains promoted vigorous vegetation growth in 2009, resulting in less bare ground capable of generating dust. Image credit: NOAA/Climate Prediction Center.

The Sahara and the Sahel: significant sources of dust
The summertime dust that affects Atlantic tropical storms originates over the southwestern Sahara (18° - 22° N) and the northwestern Sahel (15° - 18° N) (Figure 2). The dust that originates in the Southwest Sahara stays relatively constant from year to year. However, the dust from the northwestern Sahel varies significantly from year to year, and understanding this variation may be a key factor in improving our forecasts of seasonal hurricane activity in the Atlantic. The amount of dust that gets transported over the Atlantic depends on a mix of three main factors: the large scale and local scale weather patterns (windy weather transports more dust), how wet the current rainy season is (wet weather will wash out dust before it gets transported over the Atlantic), and how dry and drought-damaged the soil is. The level of drought experienced in the northwestern Sahel during the previous year's rainy season (June - October) is the key factor of the three in determining how much dust gets transported over the Atlantic during hurricane season, according to a January 2004 study published in Geophysical Research Letters published by C. Moulin and I. Chiapello. A dry rainy season the previous year will make an expanded area of loose soil which can create dust. It is also possible that the corresponding changes in vegetation can alter the regional weather patterns, causing more dust production.


Figure 2. Map of the mean summer dust optical thickness derived from satellite measurements between 1979 and 2000. Maximum dust amounts originate in the northern Sahel (15° to 18° N) and the Sahara (18° to 22° N). The Bodele depression in Chad is also an active dust source. Image credit: Evidence of the control of summer atmospheric transport of African dust over the Atlantic by Sahel sources from TOMS satellites (1979-2000) by C. Moulin and I. Chiapello, published in January 2004 in Geophysical Research Letters.

How dust suppresses hurricanes
Dust acts as a shield which keeps sunlight from reaching the surface. Thus, large amounts of dust can keep the sea surface temperatures up to 1°C cooler than average in the hurricane Main Development Region (MDR) off the coast of Africa, providing hurricanes with less energy to form and grow. Dust also affects the Saharan Air Layer (SAL), an layer of dry, dusty Saharan air that rides up over the low-level moist air over the tropical Atlantic. At the boundary between the SAL and low-level moist air where the trade winds blow is the trade wind inversion--a region of the atmosphere where the temperature increases with height. Since atmospheric temperature normally decreases with height, this "inversion" acts to but the brakes on any thunderstorms that try to punch through it. This happens because the air in a thunderstorm's updraft suddenly encounters a region where the updraft air is cooler and less buoyant than the surrounding air, and thus will not be able to keep moving upward. The dust in the SAL absorbs solar radiation, which heats the air in the trade wind inversion. This makes the inversion stronger, which inhibits the thunderstorms that power a hurricane. The dust may also act to interfere with the formation of cloud drops and rain drops that these thunderstorms need to grow, but little is known about such effects. It is possible that dust may act to help hurricanes by serving as "condensation nuclei"--centers around which raindrops can form and grow.

For additional reading
Dr. Evan published a study in Science magazine this March showing that 69% of the increase in Atlantic sea surface temperatures over the past 26 years could be attributed to decreases in the amount of dust in the atmosphere.

Jeff Masters
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602. Ossqss 11:48 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2009    
Howdy StormW, the spin is in the right spot :)

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603. K8eCane 11:50 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2009    
Quoting Ossqss:
Howdy StormW, the spin is in the right spot :)


WOW at the northeast potential
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604. SavannahStorm 11:53 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2009    
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605. GeoffreyWPB 11:58 PM GMT del 21 Giugno 2009    
Interesting weather stat for West Palm...record high for June, 102 set in 1944, set on the 24th.
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608. beell 12:09 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
TUTT
15N/80W - 25N/50W
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609. beell 12:15 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
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610. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 12:24 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
ATTENTION...NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER

T.C.F.A.

NCEP COUPLED GFDL HURRICANE MODEL FORECAST MADE FOR



TROPICAL DEPRESSION TWO 02E



INITIAL TIME 18Z JUN 21



DISCLAIMER ... THIS INFORMATION IS PROVIDED AS GUIDANCE. IT

REQUIRES INTERPRETATION BY HURRICANE SPECIALISTS AND SHOULD

NOT BE CONSIDERED AS A FINAL PRODUCT. PLEASE SEE THE TPC/NHC

OFFICIAL FORECAST.





FORECAST STORM POSITION



HOUR LATITUDE LONGITUDE HEADING/SPEED(KT)



0 14.5 101.5 270./ 8.0

6 15.0 101.5 356./ 4.9

12 15.6 101.9 326./ 6.8

18 15.9 102.1 318./ 3.5

24 16.1 102.2 338./ 2.7

30 16.8 102.3 350./ 6.4

36 17.2 102.7 324./ 5.8

42 17.8 102.9 340./ 6.3

48 18.3 103.8 295./ 9.7

54 19.9 105.6 312./23.1

60 21.3 106.0 342./14.8

66 21.9 106.3 335./ 6.6

72 22.3 107.0 300./ 7.4

78 22.9 107.7 314./ 9.0

84 23.9 108.7 314./13.1

90 24.3 109.1 312./ 6.0

96 24.8 109.9 303./ 8.6

102 25.2 110.5 305./ 7.4

108 25.6 110.7 332./ 3.8

114 25.9 110.8 333./ 2.8

120 25.9 112.4 273./14.4

126 27.1 111.8 27./13.1







...SPECIAL FEATURE...

NEWLY FORMED TROPICAL DEPRESSION TWO-E WAS CENTERED NEAR 14.7N
101.7W OR ABOUT 205 MILES S OF ZIHUATANEJO MEXICO AT 21/2100 UTC
MOVING W 8 KT. ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 1002 MB.
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS 30 KT GUSTS 40 KT. SEE LATEST NHC PUBLIC
ADVISORY UNDER AWIPS/WMO HEADERS MIATCPEP/WTPZ32 KNHC AND THE
FULL FORECAST ADVISORY UNDER AWIPS/WMO HEADERS MIATCMEP WTPZ22
KNHC FOR MORE DETAILS. SATELLITE VISIBLE IMAGERY FROM THROUGHOUT
THE DAY HAVE SHOWN THAT THE OVERALL CLOUD STRUCTURE AND
ASSOCIATED CONVECTION HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY BECOME BETTER ORGANIZED
UNDER FAVORABLE UPPER LEVEL CONDITIONS. NUMEROUS STRONG
CONVECTION IS OBSERVED WITHIN 45 NM OF THE CENTER. SCATTERED
STRONG CONVECTION IS ELSEWHERE WITHIN 150 NM OF THE CENTER IN THE
SW QUADRANT...AND WITHIN 60 NM IN THE NE QUADRANT. A RATHER
TIGHT BANDING FEATURE WRAPPING INTO THE CENTER FROM THE W
CONSISTS OF SCATTERED STRONG CONVECTION...ABOUT 90 NM WIDE
...FROM 14.5N105W TO 16.5N103W. SCATTERED MODERATE CONVECTION
IS WITHIN 60 NM OF 13N106W. THE DEPRESSION IS FORECAST TO
STRENGTHEN INTO A TROPICAL STORM OVERNIGHT...AND CONTINUE TO
GRADUALLY THROUGH THE NEXT 48 HOURS PER LATEST NHC FORECAST
GUIDANCE AS IT MOVES IN A GENERAL WESTWARD DIRECTION.

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612. Orcasystems 12:40 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
Ahhh you can tell its summer in Toronto... Garbage collection strike starting Monday :)
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613. Levi32 12:40 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
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615. Orcasystems 12:45 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
Quoting Levi32:
18z GFDL for TD 2-E

18z HWRF for TD 2-E


This must be wrong... I remember this post very well :)


512. IKE 8:52 PM GMT on June 21, 2009
TD2E looks like a fish-storm.

Now where did that pie go?
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617. GeoffreyWPB 12:47 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
To me, it looks like TD-2E should be named tonight.
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618. Orcasystems 12:47 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
Quoting hurricane2009:


LOL since I was directly related to that debate earlier, I say no comment lol


I'm sorry..its a slow day and I had to do it :)
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619. GeoffreyWPB 12:48 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
BTW...perhaps we should refer to "fish" storms as Mariners storms.
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622. Levi32 12:51 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
There is a LOT of heat in the eastern Pacific right now. TD 2 has a competing circulation to its east near the coast of Mexico. I have a feeling this will limit TD 2's intensification rate in the short-term until it gets far enough away, but there's so much heat to go around maybe it won't matter. Tropical cyclones are all about bundling heat. You can have all the heat you want but if it's spread out all you'll get is a large area of convection with no organization.
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623. Tazmanian 12:52 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
000
WHXX01 KMIA 220045
CHGE77
TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
0045 UTC MON JUN 22 2009

DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE
AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.

EAST PACIFIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR

TROPICAL CYCLONE TWO (EP022009) 20090622 0000 UTC

...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS. .. ...36 HRS...
090622 0000 090622 1200 090623 0000 090623 1200

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 14.7N 101.7W 15.5N 102.0W 16.5N 102.3W 17.6N 103.2W
BAMD 14.7N 101.7W 15.1N 102.8W 15.8N 104.1W 16.5N 105.7W
BAMM 14.7N 101.7W 15.2N 102.7W 16.0N 103.8W 16.8N 105.2W
LBAR 14.7N 101.7W 15.2N 102.7W 16.3N 104.1W 17.6N 105.7W
SHIP 30KTS 38KTS 47KTS 55KTS
DSHP 30KTS 38KTS 47KTS 55KTS

...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS. .. ..120 HRS...
090624 0000 090625 0000 090626 0000 090627 0000

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 18.8N 104.3W 20.2N 107.3W 21.1N 111.1W 22.0N 115.4W
BAMD 17.4N 107.5W 18.8N 111.7W 19.9N 116.2W 20.3N 120.9W
BAMM 17.8N 106.9W 19.2N 110.5W 20.4N 115.1W 20.9N 119.8W
LBAR 19.3N 107.4W 22.5N 110.8W 25.2N 113.6W 27.0N 114.6W
SHIP 55KTS 51KTS 41KTS 34KTS
DSHP 55KTS 51KTS 41KTS 34KTS

...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 14.7N LONCUR = 101.7W DIRCUR = 280DEG SPDCUR = 5KT
LATM12 = 14.6N LONM12 = 100.5W DIRM12 = 270DEG SPDM12 = 7KT
LATM24 = 14.7N LONM24 = 99.3W
WNDCUR = 30KT RMAXWD = 45NM WNDM12 = 25KT
CENPRS = 999MB OUTPRS = 1004MB OUTRAD = 125NM SDEPTH = M
RD34NE = 0NM RD34SE = 0NM RD34SW = 0NM RD34NW = 0NM




has any one evere thing a 999mb 30kt TD befor???
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624. GeoffreyWPB 12:54 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
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625. Tazmanian 12:55 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
time to look at the Record books
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626. stormpetrol 12:56 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
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627. all4hurricanes 12:57 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
To me, it looks like TD-2E should be named tonight.

Agreed but TD1-E and TD1-L all looked like they should have been named so I think I'll get named tomorrow. The Name would be Andres by the way.
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628. Levi32 12:57 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
Quoting Tazmanian:
000
WHXX01 KMIA 220045
CHGE77
TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
0045 UTC MON JUN 22 2009

DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE
AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.

EAST PACIFIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR

TROPICAL CYCLONE TWO (EP022009) 20090622 0000 UTC

...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS. .. ...36 HRS...
090622 0000 090622 1200 090623 0000 090623 1200

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 14.7N 101.7W 15.5N 102.0W 16.5N 102.3W 17.6N 103.2W
BAMD 14.7N 101.7W 15.1N 102.8W 15.8N 104.1W 16.5N 105.7W
BAMM 14.7N 101.7W 15.2N 102.7W 16.0N 103.8W 16.8N 105.2W
LBAR 14.7N 101.7W 15.2N 102.7W 16.3N 104.1W 17.6N 105.7W
SHIP 30KTS 38KTS 47KTS 55KTS
DSHP 30KTS 38KTS 47KTS 55KTS

...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS. .. ..120 HRS...
090624 0000 090625 0000 090626 0000 090627 0000

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 18.8N 104.3W 20.2N 107.3W 21.1N 111.1W 22.0N 115.4W
BAMD 17.4N 107.5W 18.8N 111.7W 19.9N 116.2W 20.3N 120.9W
BAMM 17.8N 106.9W 19.2N 110.5W 20.4N 115.1W 20.9N 119.8W
LBAR 19.3N 107.4W 22.5N 110.8W 25.2N 113.6W 27.0N 114.6W
SHIP 55KTS 51KTS 41KTS 34KTS
DSHP 55KTS 51KTS 41KTS 34KTS

...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 14.7N LONCUR = 101.7W DIRCUR = 280DEG SPDCUR = 5KT
LATM12 = 14.6N LONM12 = 100.5W DIRM12 = 270DEG SPDM12 = 7KT
LATM24 = 14.7N LONM24 = 99.3W
WNDCUR = 30KT RMAXWD = 45NM WNDM12 = 25KT
CENPRS = 999MB OUTPRS = 1004MB OUTRAD = 125NM SDEPTH = M
RD34NE = 0NM RD34SE = 0NM RD34SW = 0NM RD34NW = 0NM




has any one evere thing a 999mb 30kt TD befor???


Official pressure is 1002mb per the Latest NHC Advisory. In the Atlantic that would usually always give a storm TS-force winds, but storms like TD 2 that are close to mexico are in a region of sub-1008mb pressures associated with the Mexican thermal low. That makes TD 2's central pressure higher relative to its environment, meaning it has to achieve a lower pressure relative to its environment to atain a certain wind speed.

That said, it does look very close if not already a TS.
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629. Tazmanian 12:57 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
i think the E PAC has set a new Record for the lowets mb for a TD with out being a name storm 1st
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630. Tazmanian 12:59 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
Quoting Levi32:


Official pressure is 1002mb per the Latest NHC Advisory. In the Atlantic that would usually always give a storm TS-force winds, but storms like TD 2 that are close to mexico are in a region of sub-1008mb pressures associated with the Mexican thermal low. That makes TD 2's central pressure higher relative to its environment, meaning it has to achieve a lower pressure relative to its environment to atain a certain wind speed.



ture but not with the new INFO that i posted the nhc will lower the the mb to 999mb at the next update
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631. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 12:59 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
Quoting Orcasystems:
Ahhh you can tell its summer in Toronto... Garbage collection strike starting Monday :)

NO GARBAGE
NO POOLS
NO PARKS
NO DAYCARE
NO COMM.CENTRES
NO CITY SERVICES

by friday in this heat and humity it may smell real nice
welcome to toronto
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632. Levi32 01:01 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
Quoting Tazmanian:



ture but not with the new INFO that i posted the nhc will lower the the mb to 999mb at the next update


I think that's only a model initialization but I don't know if the NHC directly inputs current information into them. It could be the 0z pressure reading but it could also just be a model initialization that's not always accurate.
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633. Tazmanian 01:01 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
hey what s that low spining off the coast of new york dos that have a ch of be comeing a STS??
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634. Tazmanian 01:02 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
Quoting Levi32:


I think that's only a model initialization but I don't know if the NHC directly inputs current information into them. It could be the 0z pressure reading but it could also just be a model initialization that's not always accurate.



ok
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635. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 01:02 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
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infamous long island express fastest forward speed on record for a storm in atl.basin
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636. atmoaggie 01:03 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
To me, it looks like TD-2E should be named tonight.


Maybe so...looking pretty good.

This convergence map started showing the feature about the time it got started...might prove to be useful.


http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/hurricane/
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637. GeoffreyWPB 01:03 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
Cool info. Keeper...didn't know that.
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638. all4hurricanes 01:05 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    

Lee from 05 never had a central pressure below 1006mb. So why are storms that are stronger not tropical storms too?
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639. futuremet 01:06 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
Quoting all4hurricanes:

Lee from 05 never had a central pressure below 1006mb. So why are storms that are stronger not tropical storms too?


It is probably due to its magnitude or its sustained winds.
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641. GeoffreyWPB 01:07 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
Do they fly recons into EPAC storms?
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642. HurricaneKing 01:08 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
Quoting Levi32:


I think that's only a model initialization but I don't know if the NHC directly inputs current information into them. It could be the 0z pressure reading but it could also just be a model initialization that's not always accurate.


I beileve the initial conditions box is what the NHC puts into the model thus at the next advisory the pressure will most likely be 999mb.
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643. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 01:08 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
641. GeoffreyWPB 1:07 AM GMT on June 22, 2009
Do they fly invests into EPAC storms?
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WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS

CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.

1030 AM EDT SUN 21 JUNE 2009

SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)

VALID 22/1100Z TO 23/1100Z JUNE 2009

TCPOD NUMBER.....09-024



I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS

1. NEGATIVE RECONNAISSANCE REQUIREMENTS.

2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY.....NEGATIVE.



II. PACIFIC REQUIREMENTS

1. NEGATIVE RECONNAISSANCE REQUIREMENTS.

2. SUCCEEDING DAY OUTLOOK.....NEGATIVE.

SEF
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644. atmoaggie 01:08 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
Lee from 05 never had a central pressure below 1006mb. So why are storms that are stronger not tropical storms too?

The pressure deficit relative to surrounding ambient pressure is what really determines the intensity of a tropical system...not that this reply necessarily answers your point/question.

EDIT: I see I was not the first to put this solution out there...
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645. Levi32 01:09 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
Quoting all4hurricanes:

Lee from 05 never had a central pressure below 1006mb. So why are storms that are stronger not tropical storms too?


This is from what I told Taz when he asked:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
In the Atlantic that would usually always give a storm TS-force winds, but storms like TD 2 that are close to mexico are in a region of sub-1008mb pressures associated with the Mexican thermal low. That makes TD 2's central pressure higher relative to its environment, meaning it has to achieve a lower pressure relative to its environment to atain a certain wind speed.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

In the Atlantic the normal pressures are around 1012 to 1016ish. That makes Lee's pressure 6-10mb lower than its environment. TD-2 is in an environment of sub-1008mb pressures, so its central pressure is 4-6mb lower than its environment. So despite having a lower pressure than Lee, TD-2 has a higher pressure relative to its environment, making its winds slower.
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646. Weatherkid27 01:10 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
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647. futuremet 01:10 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
Quoting hurricane2009:


Because a storms strength in terms of pressure is relative to the surrounding pressures in its environment

In an area where 1007mb pressures are the norm a system has to have a lower pressure to be classified a certain strength

In an area where higher pressures are the norm, a system doesnt have to have as low a pressure to get to that same strength.


That is a tenable explanation. Lower surrounding pressures would only weaken the pressure gradient force. The more substantial the pressure gradient, the higher the wind will blow. The more steep a mountain, the faster a river stream for example will flow to the surface.
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648. GeoffreyWPB 01:11 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
Thanks again Keeper..they do fly recons...learning a lot tonight!
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649. atmoaggie 01:12 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
Quoting futuremet:


That is a tenable explanation. Lower surrounding pressures would only weaken the pressure gradient force.


Which is exactly what determines a storm's ability to generate sustained wind velocities.
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650. HurricaneKing 01:13 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
Quoting Levi32:


This is from what I told Taz when he asked:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
In the Atlantic that would usually always give a storm TS-force winds, but storms like TD 2 that are close to mexico are in a region of sub-1008mb pressures associated with the Mexican thermal low. That makes TD 2's central pressure higher relative to its environment, meaning it has to achieve a lower pressure relative to its environment to atain a certain wind speed.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

In the Atlantic the normal pressures are around 1012 to 1016ish. That makes Lee's pressure 6-10mb lower than its environment. TD-2 is in an environment of sub-1008mb pressures, so its central pressure is 4-6mb lower than its environment. So despite having a lower pressure than Lee, TD-2 has a higher pressure relative to its environment, making its winds slower.


I can't remember the storms but several years ago we had a tropical depression at 1014 or 1015mb off the southeast coast. Made landfall before getting stronger. It was in an area where the average pressure at the time was 1020-1025mb. I also remember a tropical storm out over the central atlantic having a pressure of 1010mb before. Depending on the surrounding atmosphere you can get some weird pressures for storms.


Anyway it's dinner time. Be back in a bit.
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651. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 01:14 AM GMT del 22 Giugno 2009    
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Cool info. Keeper...didn't know that.
Fastest moving hurricane or tropical storm:Now the question here is what are the fastest moving storms? This is important because forward speed can impact both wind velocity and surge, and decrease the flooding from rain. The fastest recorded hurricane was "The Long Island Express" in 1938, a category 3 storm. It was travelling between 60 and 70 miles per hour
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