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DEBATE ON GLOBAL WARMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Fshhead, 06:19 AM GMT del 22 Febbraio 2007 +2
This is my continuing blog on global warming. If you are new visitor, please look at last couple of blog entrys also on global warming!!!!







"There are so many arguments proving & disputing global warming that people can't seem to agree completly on it. But for all the preperations that we make for hurricanes & other disasters, what do we have to lose if we prepare for global warming as if the worst might come true?
The answer is pure common sense. We should try to eliminate the variables that cause global warming instead of just arguing about it. It's like a hurricane- if we prepare for the worst, it can only save lives & money. If it does not come, no one will have been hurt & we may even have a healthier Earth."


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Videos I recommend:
"Who killed the electric car?"
HBO'S "To hot Not to handle"
"Inconvienent Truth"




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1701. LightningDude 08:03 PM GMT del 23 Giugno 2007    
And does the IPCC have a political/financial agenda?
Every agency does in one way or another, such as receiving funds for continuing their "research".
Whether it be govt. or private funding...

Tell that to the martians........
lolol
1702. Fshhead 08:05 PM GMT del 23 Giugno 2007    
martians what????? there's martians??? lol
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1703. Fshhead 08:07 PM GMT del 23 Giugno 2007    
BTW... WELCOME Lightning!!!!
Let me ask you a ? How's the gas prices in your area??? lol
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1704. LightningDude 08:08 PM GMT del 23 Giugno 2007    
lolol, we don't know yet...
YET........
LOLOL
1705. HurricaneGeek 08:09 PM GMT del 23 Giugno 2007    
WAT UP!!!!!
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1706. LightningDude 08:10 PM GMT del 23 Giugno 2007    
I an from the Chicago area
You know, the region with the highest gas prices.....
lolol
1707. Fshhead 08:12 PM GMT del 23 Giugno 2007    
well as far as the "martians", I think it is going to be kinda hard to ask of their opinion. They are probably very simple one-cell organisms or minute forms of life lol They (I think) did find water on Mars recently. Saw a nice pic of what sure looked like a lake to me!!
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1708. Fshhead 08:13 PM GMT del 23 Giugno 2007    
Geek WELCOME & Whaaaat's Uuuuuuup?????
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1709. Fshhead 08:14 PM GMT del 23 Giugno 2007    
Lightning take a look at the Tesla logo above. There is your answer to the high gas prices!!
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1710. Fshhead 08:16 PM GMT del 23 Giugno 2007    
& what would the highest price in the region for gas be set at???? Right around $3 here in Miami!!
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1711. LightningDude 08:18 PM GMT del 23 Giugno 2007    
Hey HG,sup
If ya really want to get the OIL COMPANY debate going lets talk about the billions of gallons of crude WE have underground!!
If we drill to bring it up it will cost even more, not to speak of ,if we DO,the OPECers will flood the market and bring the value of OUR drilled oil even LOWER!!!
Yes the oil companies are ripping us off, but that's the society we live in, A free but expensive market.....
Alternatives are really the answer......
For global and economic reasons!!
But when you have to "plug in" an electric car, doesn't that take electricity?
LOLOL
And ethanol.... the price of corn has doubled, so that will make that "alternative" even more expensive and possibly equal to the cost of fossil fules.......
LOLOL
1712. Fshhead 08:20 PM GMT del 23 Giugno 2007    
Lithium-ion batterys are what is going to bring electric cars to the forefront. Funny part about is that our obsession with the cell-phones & laptop pc's is what brought the batterys to present capabilities.
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1713. LightningDude 08:22 PM GMT del 23 Giugno 2007    
gotta run, Thanks for the Welcome
gas here is about 3.30 a gal. still
1714. Fshhead 08:25 PM GMT del 23 Giugno 2007    
I have said many times before that ethanol is NOT the answer. It is a nice bridge towards real-efficient hybrids & electrics though.
K, so lets get the oil debate going since that is MY MAIN beef anyways....
Your oil here in the U.S. ahhhhh just a drop in the bucket my friend!!!!!! Oil IS a FINITE source. We need to step into the new millenium with fresh ideas for energy, not still dragging our heels on last millenium technology
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1715. Fshhead 08:26 PM GMT del 23 Giugno 2007    
K, Lightning you are welcome any time here. Just expect your views to be "debated" lol
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1716. LightningDude 09:11 PM GMT del 23 Giugno 2007    
ok lets talk about batteries......
the replacement cost would be outrageous for cars.....
not to speak of the problem of disposal....
and then the problem of on the road auto accidents, blowing up batteries ,and the contents of those batteries being spilled all over the roadways.......
hydrogen is the short term and maybe the long term solution for combustion motor vehicles!
It is just not chep enough right now, and there is not enough investment in that direction
it is environmet friendly, and you could have a hydrogen producing "machine" at your house
but "fuel" tanks would have to be bigger , because it needs twice as much of that fuel to equal that of gasoline consumption
and it would take electricity to power the hydrogen producing machine...
But then, what about the safety of a tank of hydrogen in your car?????
LOLOL




1717. Fshhead 07:01 AM GMT del 24 Giugno 2007    
K,we already went through this but, fair enough!!!
1. replacement costs- Sure enough RIGHT NOW it would be a hefty sum to say the least. At the same time think of all the money saved not replacing all the other things that go with internal combustion engines(oil changes, exhaust replacement, air filters etc.... Also Tesla I am pretty sure is working on this. Not to mention, who said anything about disposing of them? RECYCLE!!!!
2. battery dangers- Tesla definitly did some serious research on this problem. They have perfected this technology!! Not to mention at the same time, what about the dangers of GASOLINE under those same scenarios????????
3. Which leads me to the hydrogen, a total pipe dream to say the least!!!!! Think of ALL the dangers associated with that!!!!
Do me a favor Lightning, really look over the Tesla website cause they address all the questions you are asking!! I DID do my homework my friend!!!!!
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1718. Fshhead 07:08 AM GMT del 24 Giugno 2007    
Here is a real good page to start with on the Tesla site..
Link
It's a FAQ page & they do have answers to the battery questions!!!!
If I said it once, I've said it a hundred times, Tesla has the RIGHT vision for the RIGHT time in history!!!!!!!
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1719. Fshhead 07:29 AM GMT del 24 Giugno 2007    
To be honest I see only one flaw in the Tesla in the short term. That is the fact that THEY right now are the only ones that are authorized to work on the vehicle. They DO NOT recommend anyone else messing with it. There lies the problem. In the beginning they are going to just a few citys. I am fortunate to say my location Miami will be one of them. At the same time I think someone forking over 90-100 grand does have another car. I mean c'mon I dont think it will their sole means of transportation lol. I will say this though I personally think that when this car hits the streets it is going to gain BIG noteriety & when the 2nd version "White Star" comes out there will be so much hype on electric cars Tesla will overcome by expanding rapidly!!!
Problem solved!!!
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1720. Fshhead 07:38 AM GMT del 24 Giugno 2007    
Here's a real good section on the Tesla battery packs!!! It addresses your safety issues. Just so happens now they are starting to sell them to other companys. Lol I wonder how long until Toyota gets involved?
Link
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1723. Fshhead 08:27 AM GMT del 25 Giugno 2007    
Hmmm 2012 going to be interesting year. Alot of ideas about what it will bring us floating around!
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1724. Fshhead 08:59 AM GMT del 25 Giugno 2007    
Too little, too late: Gore blames scientists for climate crisis
US could have acted sooner if experts had reached consensus
Source: Copyright 2007, Independent (UK)
Date: June 24, 2007
Byline: Jonathan Owen

In an extraordinary outburst aimed at America's failure to tackle global warming, Al Gore says that if scientific agreement on the climate crisis had been reached sooner it would have been easier to "galvanise the public and persuade Congress to act".

The failed presidential candidate claims that the stronger scientific consensus he knew was about to emerge meant "we in the US were about to shift into high gear in addressing the climate crisis". Mr Gore argues that if he had made it to the White House, he would have been able to use the office as a "bully pulpit" to achieve change.

"The nature and severity of the climate crisis had seemed painfully obvious to me for quite a long time," claims Mr Gore, writing in a new foreword to a revised edition of his book, Earth in the Balance, being published this week.

In a swipe at the scientific community, he says: "I wish that we could have had in the 1990s the deafening scientific consensus that has emerged in more recent years."

Mr Gore accuses his nemesis, President George Bush, of having taken "virtually no steps to address the problem. Worse, he and Vice President Cheney have led the nation in precisely the wrong direction."

He goes on to detail how the Bush administration reversed a pledge to regulate carbon dioxide as a pollutant, pulled out of negotiations on the Kyoto treaty and replaced key scientific advisers with ones suggested by oil giant ExxonMobil.

The point of no return will be reached within 10 years, the former vice president says, and we cannot wait any longer to solve the crisis. He blames a focus on instant gratification for the "exclusion of long-term consequences in our decisions and policies" and writes about his "mission of solving the climate crisis". His Oscar-winning documentary on climate change, An Inconvenient Truth, became the surprise box-office hit of 2006.

Mr Gore claims that concerns over the environment formed his "principal agenda for eight years in the White House". But he is light on details of what he did while in office, beyond a brief mention of his work with the Kyoto treaty (which was never ratified by Congress).

During his tenure as vice president, America's carbon dioxide emissions shot up far faster than at any time in modern history - by 15 per cent, compared to just 1.65 per cent during President Bush's first term.

Although Mr Gore is currently promoting the Live Earth concerts that will take place next month, speculation is increasing that he may exploit the surge in his popularity and run for president in 2008 - 20 years after first standing for the office.

He is one of a growing number of political figures who have embraced the green cause.
Link

Ohhh Boy... Well he did it again! He opened his mouth again! This time I think he opened it too far & he is going to have his teeth kicked in lol
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1726. Fshhead 05:15 AM GMT del 26 Giugno 2007    
Situation critical on climate
By Michelle Cazzulino

June 26, 2007 12:00am

MELTING ice sheets in Greenland and Antarctica will cause the sea level to rise much faster than previously anticipated, according to alarming new NASA research.

The alarming prediction was made by a research team led by James Hansen, from NASA's Goddard Institute, and published in a peer-reviewed paper titled Climate Change and Trace Gases.

The document argues the Earth is perilously close to entering a new era of runaway climate change, warning that while conditions are currently classified as "serious", they are likely to tip into "dangerous" over the next decade.

It says while the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change had forecast a sea level rise of 18cm-59cm, that figure did not take into account melting ice sheets in Greenland and Antarctica.
"That's beginning to lose mass and is situated on a bedrock below sea level, so it's potentially unstable and could give a very large sea-level rise," Mr Hansen said.
Beyond Zero Emissions spokesman Matthew Wright said immediate action was needed.

"There is little point setting 2020 or 2050 greenhouse gas reduction targets," he said.

"We have too much carbon in the air now, in 2007."
Link
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1727. Fshhead 02:35 AM GMT del 27 Giugno 2007    
Climate change: A guide for the perplexed
17:00 16 May 2007
NewScientist.com news service
Michael Le Page

Our planet's climate is anything but simple. All kinds of factors influence it, from massive events on the Sun to the growth of microscopic creatures in the oceans, and there are subtle interactions between many of these factors.

Yet despite all the complexities, a firm and ever-growing body of evidence points to a clear picture: the world is warming, this warming is due to human activity increasing levels of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, and if emissions continue unabated the warming will too, with increasingly serious consequences.

Yes, there are still big uncertainties in some predictions, but these swing both ways. For example, the response of clouds could slow the warming or speed it up.

With so much at stake, it is right that climate science is subjected to the most intense scrutiny. What does not help is for the real issues to be muddied by discredited arguments or wild theories.

So for those who are not sure what to believe, here is our round-up of the 26 most common climate myths and misconceptions.

There is also a guide to assessing the evidence. In the articles we've included lots of links to primary research and major reports for those who want to follow through to the original sources.

Human CO2 emissions are too tiny to matter

We can't do anything about climate change

The 'hockey stick' graph has been proven wrong

Chaotic systems are not predictable

We can't trust computer models of climate

They predicted global cooling in the 1970s

It's been far warmer in the past, what's the big deal?

It's too cold where I live - warming will be great

Global warming is down to the Sun, not humans

Its all down to cosmic rays

CO2 isn't the most important greenhouse gas

The lower atmosphere is cooling, not warming

Antarctica is getting cooler, not warmer, disproving global warming

The oceans are cooling

The cooling after 1940 shows CO2 does not cause warming

It was warmer during the Medieval period, with vineyards in England

We are simply recovering from the Little Ice Age

Warming will cause an ice age in Europe

Ice cores show CO2 increases lag behind temperature rises, disproving the link to global warming

Ice cores show CO2 rising as temperatures fell

Mars and Pluto are warming too

Many leading scientists question climate change

It's all a conspiracy

Hurricane Katrina was caused by global warming

Higher CO2 levels will boost plant growth and food production
Link

All the stuff in italic are links on the site to the research & reports. Just go to the website & start clicking all the links on the bottom.
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1728. Fshhead 07:34 PM GMT del 27 Giugno 2007    
Hmmmm awful quiet here lately........
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1729. Fshhead 06:18 AM GMT del 28 Giugno 2007    

Click Me!!!!
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1733. Fshhead 06:32 AM GMT del 28 Giugno 2007    
Sorry FLBoy I was digging up an old post lol
Hmmm I have not seen any problems with the site this afternoon or now, sure it's not on your end?
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1735. Fshhead 06:34 AM GMT del 28 Giugno 2007    
lol THAT'S FOR SURE!!! LOL
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1738. Fshhead 06:42 AM GMT del 28 Giugno 2007    
Lol okaaaaaay......
My blog is a debate that I can assure you.As far as your DVD PLEASE tell me it's not that English documentary that was totally debunked lol
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1739. Fshhead 06:43 AM GMT del 28 Giugno 2007    
LOL Actually I was going to propose a deal to ya. I will watch your "propogandist" film if you will watch Who killed the electric car deal??????
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1740. Fshhead 06:45 AM GMT del 28 Giugno 2007    
well??
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1741. Fshhead 06:49 AM GMT del 28 Giugno 2007    
BTW... I dont bash anti-warming people, personally I totally don't understand how they think but, I don't bash them. Well o.k. take that back lol anyone besides Dr. Gray. You all can't help it if you are misinformed & are totally blind to all the warning signs lol
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1743. Fshhead 06:52 AM GMT del 28 Giugno 2007    
Hmmm so what DO you know about the electric car??
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1745. Fshhead 06:53 AM GMT del 28 Giugno 2007    
bet you think it will never work, be a piece of ****, still pollutes cause it uses electricity?
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1747. Fshhead 06:54 AM GMT del 28 Giugno 2007    
K K I will stop Damn just kiddin' you know???
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1751. Fshhead 06:58 AM GMT del 28 Giugno 2007    
K so this IS NOT aimed at you ok? lol
It seems to me that most people are blind to the BIG issues facing this country & US as a civilization! Just look at the gas prices. Sure everyone bickers a little but nothing gets done. Has to be a movement & it has to start grass-roots with all of us!
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